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Sat 27/03/04 at 08:58
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"RIP: Brian Clough"
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It was just a few years ago, growing up in a Hebrew Christian family, that I went to Church, had faith, prayed - occasionally and read the Bible - again occasionally. Then the boss of my father, invited us all over to the States, for a conference on Jewish teachings in the Bible. It was my first time away and I enjoyed the time, but something better, more amazing happened. There in sunny USA for the first time, in the desert of Arizona something else happened...

As I was really a man now, it was time for me to make a decision about Jesus and this trip, made up my mind, that I wanted Jesus and wanted to avoid Hell. I was sitting in a room, when I asked Jesus into my heart. I suddenly felt the difference, I was relieved, my sins were off my shoulders and on the cross. Jesus was living in me, in my life and in my heart. What a great day! You might think, is it really that easy? Do you really just pray and feel different? The answer is YES. If you confess you are a SINNER, you believe Jesus died for YOUR SINS and He LOVES YOU, you will be saved! That's what I did anyway.

Anyway, thinking that was it for the day, having asked Jesus into my heart - enough for one day, I went to bed. Next morning I woke up early to reflect on the previous day, when a gleem of light, glistened through the bathroom door. I opened it, to get ready for the day, when I went to the sink, to wash. As I reached for the sink (with nothing on my feet), I wobbled unsteadily, before I felt myself falling. It felt like minutes, but in reality, it was seconds, before I fell... head-first straight onto the cold, hard, marble like bathroom floor. I was soon carried away and into safety, but the pain wrang around in my head, for days.

As I went back down to the conference, head still hurting, most of the ateendees met with me and they told me that I had been attacked by Satan, but the Lord had protected me. How true that sounded! I had no long lasting damage to my head and enjoyed the rest of my trip. I met Archangel out there and His name reminds me that the angels looked after me in Arizona. I never really thought much about hurting my head, because it soon healed after much ice and rest, but recently I reminded myself of it. I was doubting I was really saved, when the Lord reminded me I am on the Lord's side and I accepted Him the day I was saved and Satan tried to get me the next day - but he was just too late.
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Fri 02/04/04 at 08:48
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The first time it happened to me was at a Bus station. Didn't happen to me again for a good two years later.

To some it happens again and again. It's nothing to worry about as after a couple times you learn the symptoms and can prevent self from going unconcious.

To you it may never happen again. But I don't see any significance between your faint and your beliefs. Reason being, you could have fainted three weeks later and someone could've said the same thing and you could have believed that too.

Out of curiosity, how old were you when this faint took place?
Fri 02/04/04 at 08:44
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First and only time this has ever happened to me, interesting timing...
Fri 02/04/04 at 08:41
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Blood pressure doesn't stay high nor low in faint cases.

It can strike quite suddenly and within seconds of the worst sensation in the faint you can feel fine again.

Believe me, I've had a few faints over the years and know exactly what it is like.
Thu 01/04/04 at 08:02
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After a night, I felt absolutely fine and was very calm, so I couldn't have had high blood pressure.
Wed 31/03/04 at 20:38
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You were monitoring your blood pressure throughout the experience?

Well sorry, then if you were, I apologise as I must be wrong.

On the other hand, it is easy to say that when you don't know for certain.

Your blood pressure is never constant.

If you stand up for too long, it can become rather low, just like if you relax long enough.

If you get excited or scared by something, your pressure can go up quite quickly.

Ever wondered how your 'wee wee gets stricken by rigomortis'? Well it isn't muscle.
Wed 31/03/04 at 16:17
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My blood pressure is and was perfectly normal. My blood pressure has never been an issue.
Wed 31/03/04 at 14:49
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Its called a faint. I've done it many times. It can be caused by high or low blood pressure and often you don't feel any symptoms before fainting.
Wed 31/03/04 at 13:46
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I never said I had evidence. It's not a murder trial, it's just a testimony of faith.

I felt fine and suddenly fell over, after just turning to the Lord, I believe Satan was angry, it happens to a lot of people who just gain Eternal Life.
Wed 31/03/04 at 13:33
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"Live Happy Live Lon"
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Ok let’s look at this falling over in the bathroom incident. You went into the room felt faint, collapsed and survived with only bruising. You believe Satan made you fall over and God saved you.

We'll a couple of year’s back I was in sunny Tenerife and after a particularly heavy night out collapsed. I was in the bathroom heading for the toilet and just collapsed. I managed to miss the huge marble basin. Now in my view i collapsed due to too much vino (I know this isn't the reason you collapsed but people do collapse for multiple reasons) and survived because I was lucky. God did not save me and if I go with your belief of he will only help people who worship him then Satan should surely have killed me.

The point I’m making is that you have no evidence that what happened was an act of Satan/God. It seems like you went to this place were people told you a lot of things. Now you seem to have just believed everything they said. This is the problem, not that you believe in God but that you blindly accepted the word of one group and now refuse to listen to anything anyone else says. We are not trying to turn you into an atheist here just to explain the problems we have in believing. You should listen to our comments and start making reasoned judgements.

The wonderful thing about this world is Freedom and in my opinion the Old Testament was written to control people and to restrict Freedom but that’s another story.
Wed 31/03/04 at 10:44
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The first couple, Adam and Eve followed God.
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