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Sat 27/03/04 at 08:58
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It was just a few years ago, growing up in a Hebrew Christian family, that I went to Church, had faith, prayed - occasionally and read the Bible - again occasionally. Then the boss of my father, invited us all over to the States, for a conference on Jewish teachings in the Bible. It was my first time away and I enjoyed the time, but something better, more amazing happened. There in sunny USA for the first time, in the desert of Arizona something else happened...

As I was really a man now, it was time for me to make a decision about Jesus and this trip, made up my mind, that I wanted Jesus and wanted to avoid Hell. I was sitting in a room, when I asked Jesus into my heart. I suddenly felt the difference, I was relieved, my sins were off my shoulders and on the cross. Jesus was living in me, in my life and in my heart. What a great day! You might think, is it really that easy? Do you really just pray and feel different? The answer is YES. If you confess you are a SINNER, you believe Jesus died for YOUR SINS and He LOVES YOU, you will be saved! That's what I did anyway.

Anyway, thinking that was it for the day, having asked Jesus into my heart - enough for one day, I went to bed. Next morning I woke up early to reflect on the previous day, when a gleem of light, glistened through the bathroom door. I opened it, to get ready for the day, when I went to the sink, to wash. As I reached for the sink (with nothing on my feet), I wobbled unsteadily, before I felt myself falling. It felt like minutes, but in reality, it was seconds, before I fell... head-first straight onto the cold, hard, marble like bathroom floor. I was soon carried away and into safety, but the pain wrang around in my head, for days.

As I went back down to the conference, head still hurting, most of the ateendees met with me and they told me that I had been attacked by Satan, but the Lord had protected me. How true that sounded! I had no long lasting damage to my head and enjoyed the rest of my trip. I met Archangel out there and His name reminds me that the angels looked after me in Arizona. I never really thought much about hurting my head, because it soon healed after much ice and rest, but recently I reminded myself of it. I was doubting I was really saved, when the Lord reminded me I am on the Lord's side and I accepted Him the day I was saved and Satan tried to get me the next day - but he was just too late.
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Thu 15/04/04 at 16:41
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But...fossil evidence shows evolution...

Oh, I give up. You can't argue with religious fanatics.
Thu 15/04/04 at 16:39
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The bones, evolutionists use to back up their theory, are the same bones creationists use.
Thu 15/04/04 at 16:36
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Forest Fan wrote:
> All the bones used as 'evidence' in Evolution, are the same evidence
> us Creationists use.

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Eh? Speak sense. God doesn't have bones. He is boneless.
Thu 15/04/04 at 16:25
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I love Red Dwarf's view...something along the lines of...

"It has been reported that the first page of the Bible has finally been found. It reads, 'To my dearest Candy...'"

Obviously intended as humour, not to cause offence :D
Thu 15/04/04 at 16:25
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All the bones used as 'evidence' in Evolution, are the same evidence us Creationists use.
Thu 15/04/04 at 16:18
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The problem people have, you cretin, is that there is considerable evidence for Evolution. Bones and whatnot, dontchaknow.

Whereas it seems your evidence for Creation is in a book that could just as easily be fiction. Oh, and you talk to God. But, in our society, that's evidence for insanity as well. "I talk to God! I do!" "Of course you do, sir. Now if you'll just swallow your pill..."

I could believe in elven immortality because I've read Lord of the Rings. But, unsurprisingly, I don't. Imagine if the Bible had just been written. You'd believe someone could walk on water?
Thu 15/04/04 at 16:02
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Edgy wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
> Very_Metal wrote:
> Evolution is fact and Religion is blinkered theory.
>
> your blind idiocy amazes me FF,
>
> There you go, you have just claimed evolution is fact, before saying
> I have "blind idiocy".
>
> It is science fact.
>
> Sure, if new evidence is discovered to prove otherwise, then the
> facts will be updated. But with the technology available today,
> evolution is still the most likely explanation.

Then it's not fact. Fact can't change, it's a theory until proven otherwise. I believe in Creation and choose to believe it as fact, but I wouldn't go telling you I could 100% proove Creation, because I can't. You can never proove to me 100% Evolution, because both are theories.
Thu 15/04/04 at 15:16
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Erm...dinosaurs...yeah..

That article is but one opinion. The current opinion is that the inverted retina is a strong indicator of natural selection.
Thu 15/04/04 at 14:01
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This is the summary from article by Peter.W.V.gurney entitled "Is Our ‘Inverted’ Retina Really ‘Bad Design’?"

Light at various wavelengths is capable of very damaging effects on biological machinery. The retina, besides being an extremely sophisticated transducer and image processor, is clearly designed to withstand the toxic and heating effects of light. The eye is well equipped to protect the retina against radiation we normally encounter in everyday life. Besides the almost complete exclusion of ultraviolet radiation by the cornea and the lens together, the retina itself is endowed with a number of additional mechanisms to protect against such damage:

The retinal pigment epithelium produces substances which combat the damaging chemical by-products of light radiation.

The retinal pigment epithelium plays an essential part sustaining the photoreceptors. This includes recycling and metabolising their products, thereby renewing them in the face of continual wear from light bombardment.

The central retina is permeated with xanthophyll pigment which filters and absorbs short-wavelength visible light.

The photoreceptors thus need to be in intimate contact with the retinal pigment epithelium, which is opaque. The retinal pigment epithelium, in turn, needs to be in intimate contact with the choroid (also opaque) both to satisfy its nutritional requirements and to prevent (by means of the heat sink effect of its massive blood flow) overheating of the retina from focused light.

If the human retina were ‘wired’ the other way around (the verted configuration), as evolutionists such as Dawkins propose, these two opaque layers would have to be interposed in the path of light to the photoreceptors which would leave them in darkness!

Thus I suggest that the need for protection against light-induced damage, which a verted retina in our natural environment could not provide to the same degree, is a major, if not the major reason for the existence of the inverted configuration of the retina.

For the full article go to [URL]http://www.trueorigin.org/retina.asp[/URL]
Thu 15/04/04 at 13:30
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Inverted retinas should really disprove the Adam/Eve thing. But I'll explain it anyway.

If God had made man in his own image blah blah blah, then he'd have made them perfect in design. Isn't God supposed to be omni-everything? But all humans have an inverted retina, a sympton of imperfect design. Every image we receive is inverted, so there is unneccessary brain function to 'flip' the image. What this basically implies is that we're still evolving. The eye has evolved from a single cell that reacts to changes in wavelength, and it's still evolving.

Now God, being a bit of clever bod, would probably have said, Sod that, let's have the retina the right way up, eh?
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