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Absolutely.
Your Honour can back me up on this one.
And having played it solidly for a few days now, it is without doubt one of the most stunning "games" I've played, on any system bar none.
You ever played a game and had that feeling that you're witnessing the birth of something genre defining?
Like the 1st time Mario appeared, or Sonic, or Metal Gear..one of those rare moments when you sit back and think "I've never played anything like this before..."
I know I made loads of dodgy monkey spank jokes, that's just being childish and...well...me.
But I would recommend this to anyone.
If my girlfriend spent most of her saturday on a PC when she hates video games and doesn't make time to go out and do her normal stuff, then you know this is good.
A lot has been made of the "Good or Evil? find out who you really are" thing, but it's true.
Metal Gear is a top game, but the enemies are just faceless people there to be taken out to proceed.
Sure you can sneak past, but you're supplied weapons and there are moments when you HAVE to kill.
Not so with Black and White, you can proceed however you want to, with no deaths and no violence unless you want to.
A few people die in the training of your creature, otherwise he won't know not to eat them unless he does, to be rectified with a quick, gently slap.
I planned on being an evil god, creating a monstrous avatar of destruction and death - but I couldn't do it.
It's one thing to snap a guard's neck and stuff him in a locker, it's another to raise your creature from birth and make him evil.
You have to teach him to eat, to toilet train, make him learn to fish, tell him what's good and bad, raise him exactly how you want to, he is totaly dependant on you for a long time.
And herein lies the moral difficulty.
It's been programmed so you have a genuine emotional attachment to the animal.
To teach it to uproot trees and throw them into the store, when he does it right and looks at you with a huge grin and a litle dance, you reward him with a stroking, he goes mental and smiles, makes noises and runs off to do it again to impress you.
You hand him a tree, he looks at it, throws it at a villager. That's a bad thing, so you have to smack him.
He cries and rubs where you hit him.
Hand him another, watch him look at it, look up at you ,back to the tree and (provided you've shown him with the leash of learning), he throws it correctly and jumps about, pointing at you and smiling.
I became so attached to my creature, I couldn't teach it to eat people and kill children, but I don't have to.
He loves to help the villagers, picks them up and strokes them, waters their crops and is an all round nice chimp.
I'm now on Island 3 and he's been taken prisoner by a rival God, he's tied between 4 posts and is being tortured and beaten by a huge wolf creature.
I just have to influence enough new villages with miracles until I can reach him, and you better believe I will raise holy hell on the creature that has my monkey.
I spent days teaching and nurturing him, no way someone is going to hurt him and live to tell the tale.
I came across a village under the control of the evil god, and I smashed it to pieces.
Simply to exact revenge for a god that hurts my creature.
I threw fireballs into their temple, snatched their children and threw them far out to sea, rained boulders on their houses and picked up every last one of them and dashed them against mountains.
I've played games before like Force Commander, Command and Conquer and Shogun, I have sent thousands of men to certain death simply to gain control of another region next door and didn't care because it's a computer game.
But this game is different, I have raised this creature, taught it so many things, fed it, petted it and shown him how to kick a beachball when he wants cheering up.
He is my creation, a reflection of who I am.
You are free to behave exactly how you want, there is no punishment for being evil, no set way to complete tasks assigned.
It is totally up to you how you behave.
But I've invested days into my little creature, he does things to please me and make me laugh.
You genuinely care about this little thing, laugh when he learns to dance, feel bad when you have to smack him, a sense of achievment when he learns a task you've been trying to teach him.
Black and White is, without a doubt, the single most original and genre defining game out on any platform right now.
You're going to have to go a looooong way to top this game for involvement, wonder, happiness and a genuine sense of being in control.
Your Honour can back me up on this one.
And having played it solidly for a few days now, it is without doubt one of the most stunning "games" I've played, on any system bar none.
You ever played a game and had that feeling that you're witnessing the birth of something genre defining?
Like the 1st time Mario appeared, or Sonic, or Metal Gear..one of those rare moments when you sit back and think "I've never played anything like this before..."
I know I made loads of dodgy monkey spank jokes, that's just being childish and...well...me.
But I would recommend this to anyone.
If my girlfriend spent most of her saturday on a PC when she hates video games and doesn't make time to go out and do her normal stuff, then you know this is good.
A lot has been made of the "Good or Evil? find out who you really are" thing, but it's true.
Metal Gear is a top game, but the enemies are just faceless people there to be taken out to proceed.
Sure you can sneak past, but you're supplied weapons and there are moments when you HAVE to kill.
Not so with Black and White, you can proceed however you want to, with no deaths and no violence unless you want to.
A few people die in the training of your creature, otherwise he won't know not to eat them unless he does, to be rectified with a quick, gently slap.
I planned on being an evil god, creating a monstrous avatar of destruction and death - but I couldn't do it.
It's one thing to snap a guard's neck and stuff him in a locker, it's another to raise your creature from birth and make him evil.
You have to teach him to eat, to toilet train, make him learn to fish, tell him what's good and bad, raise him exactly how you want to, he is totaly dependant on you for a long time.
And herein lies the moral difficulty.
It's been programmed so you have a genuine emotional attachment to the animal.
To teach it to uproot trees and throw them into the store, when he does it right and looks at you with a huge grin and a litle dance, you reward him with a stroking, he goes mental and smiles, makes noises and runs off to do it again to impress you.
You hand him a tree, he looks at it, throws it at a villager. That's a bad thing, so you have to smack him.
He cries and rubs where you hit him.
Hand him another, watch him look at it, look up at you ,back to the tree and (provided you've shown him with the leash of learning), he throws it correctly and jumps about, pointing at you and smiling.
I became so attached to my creature, I couldn't teach it to eat people and kill children, but I don't have to.
He loves to help the villagers, picks them up and strokes them, waters their crops and is an all round nice chimp.
I'm now on Island 3 and he's been taken prisoner by a rival God, he's tied between 4 posts and is being tortured and beaten by a huge wolf creature.
I just have to influence enough new villages with miracles until I can reach him, and you better believe I will raise holy hell on the creature that has my monkey.
I spent days teaching and nurturing him, no way someone is going to hurt him and live to tell the tale.
I came across a village under the control of the evil god, and I smashed it to pieces.
Simply to exact revenge for a god that hurts my creature.
I threw fireballs into their temple, snatched their children and threw them far out to sea, rained boulders on their houses and picked up every last one of them and dashed them against mountains.
I've played games before like Force Commander, Command and Conquer and Shogun, I have sent thousands of men to certain death simply to gain control of another region next door and didn't care because it's a computer game.
But this game is different, I have raised this creature, taught it so many things, fed it, petted it and shown him how to kick a beachball when he wants cheering up.
He is my creation, a reflection of who I am.
You are free to behave exactly how you want, there is no punishment for being evil, no set way to complete tasks assigned.
It is totally up to you how you behave.
But I've invested days into my little creature, he does things to please me and make me laugh.
You genuinely care about this little thing, laugh when he learns to dance, feel bad when you have to smack him, a sense of achievment when he learns a task you've been trying to teach him.
Black and White is, without a doubt, the single most original and genre defining game out on any platform right now.
You're going to have to go a looooong way to top this game for involvement, wonder, happiness and a genuine sense of being in control.
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earlier today I was round my friends for 7 hours. And for those 7 hours all we did was play B&W
Now I really can't wait to get this for the Mac, I'm contemplating buying a pC JUST TO OWN THIS GAME.
I'm still in a state of shock as to how fun this game is!!!!! The last time I've evr played on a game that long was when I first got Alpha Centauri, me and my friend played that for 11 hours!!
Now I really can't wait to get this for the Mac, I'm contemplating buying a pC JUST TO OWN THIS GAME.
I'm still in a state of shock as to how fun this game is!!!!! The last time I've evr played on a game that long was when I first got Alpha Centauri, me and my friend played that for 11 hours!!
I have to admit, I don't play PC games at all and a God sim wouldn't really impress me, but Black & White looks so damn good I might consider buying it.
I'm Ali.
I'm Ali.
Wilma?
I got to Island 3 last night (4am) and realised he was fat and couldn't fight worth anything.
So I restarted the 1st level again.
I taught him to play baseball. Give him a tree, throw little rocks at him. They hit him at 1st, but he then learns to bat them away.
Just don't leave him tied to a tree and go off to do stuff.
I was redoing the singing stones, when a beachball thumps into view. I turn around and there's McChimp dragging his tree behind him, still attached to the leash and waving at me.
I cracked up laughing.
Other things he's learned:
To carry rocks around, he gets stronger and a bit bigger.
The hermit laughed at his size, he pouted and went off, furiously carried rocks for 30 mins, I left him to it.
Hit C to find him, and he was doing muscleman poses outside the hermit's house. Earned the miracle and promptly bashed the house in with a rock, ate the hermit and crapped in his house.
My monkey has an attitude.
And hates horses.
He loves to eat sheep, but give him a horse and he flings that gee-gee as far as he can.
What an amazing game.
So I restarted the 1st level again.
I taught him to play baseball. Give him a tree, throw little rocks at him. They hit him at 1st, but he then learns to bat them away.
Just don't leave him tied to a tree and go off to do stuff.
I was redoing the singing stones, when a beachball thumps into view. I turn around and there's McChimp dragging his tree behind him, still attached to the leash and waving at me.
I cracked up laughing.
Other things he's learned:
To carry rocks around, he gets stronger and a bit bigger.
The hermit laughed at his size, he pouted and went off, furiously carried rocks for 30 mins, I left him to it.
Hit C to find him, and he was doing muscleman poses outside the hermit's house. Earned the miracle and promptly bashed the house in with a rock, ate the hermit and crapped in his house.
My monkey has an attitude.
And hates horses.
He loves to eat sheep, but give him a horse and he flings that gee-gee as far as he can.
What an amazing game.
Goatboy,i know what you mean with the "another 10 minutes thing". Because ther's now levels as such, its easy to find tyourself keep going and going. Especially in the early stages of the game when you are still learning things.
Yep.
I think "just another 10 mins", but it does something new and I have to watch and learn.
My ape now thinks it's cool to set himself on fire and put himself out with water miracles.
He just stands there setting himself alight, then dousing himself.
Dumb Monkey
I think "just another 10 mins", but it does something new and I have to watch and learn.
My ape now thinks it's cool to set himself on fire and put himself out with water miracles.
He just stands there setting himself alight, then dousing himself.
Dumb Monkey
3 in the morning? You must have played it addictively!
In the words of the greatest kids programme
"Why don't you go out and do something less boring instead"
It would seem, based on a lot of your posts, that you rarely have anything positive to say about anything at all and reply with oblique and sarcastic posts.
Of course not everyone likes this sort of thing, I don't really care.
Please, unless you can offer something in the way of informative and at least helpful post, go sulk in the corner.
Oh,and lighten up, go outside and make some friends, you'll find you enjoy life more often that way.
"Why don't you go out and do something less boring instead"
It would seem, based on a lot of your posts, that you rarely have anything positive to say about anything at all and reply with oblique and sarcastic posts.
Of course not everyone likes this sort of thing, I don't really care.
Please, unless you can offer something in the way of informative and at least helpful post, go sulk in the corner.
Oh,and lighten up, go outside and make some friends, you'll find you enjoy life more often that way.
Looks good, but not all people like to do this kind of thing.
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