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"So you think Arsenal can do the Treble?"

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Tue 16/03/04 at 23:55
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I was looking at the fixture list earlier, and it's a nightmare. I'll be happy if we come out of it with one trophy, let alone three!

I don't think it's going to be a problem with ability, but tiredness - and potentially, therefore, injury - could play a major part.

March
Sat 20th - H - Bolton - Premiership
Wed 24th - A - Chelsea - Champion's League Quarter Final 1st leg
Sun 28th - H - Man Utd - Premiership

April (a killer month)
Sat 3rd - N - Man Utd - FA Cup Semi Final
Tue 6th - H - Chelsea - Champion's League Quarter Final 2nd leg
Sat 10th - H - Liverpool - Premiership
Mon 12th - A - Newcastle - Premiership
Fri 16th - H - Leeds - Premiership
Tue/Wed 20th/21st - possible Champion's League Semi Final 1st leg
Sat 24th - A - Spurs - Premiership

May (a little easier)
Sat 1st - H - Birmingham - Premiership
Tue/Wed 4th/5th - possible Champion's League Semi Final 2nd leg
Sat 8th - A - Fulham - Premiership
Sat 15th - H - Leicester - Premiership
Sat 22nd - possible FA Cup Final
Wed 26th - possible Champion's League Final


PLUS we also have a postponed away game with Portsmouth to be slotted in there somewhere, and I've no doubt the FA will manage to choose the most inconvenient date that they possibly can! Right now, they're probably pondering whether they could get away with scheduling on Sunday 11th April, right between Liverpool on the 10th and Newcastle on the 12th!

The only plus-point I can think of is that we got Chelsea in the Champion's League; the lack of required travelling may be a small help to us.

April could be make-or-break for the whole season, and we might well need all of that 9-point cushion.

Nothing's over yet, whatever the press may say.

So, fellow Gooners... still feeling confident? :-)
Thu 18/03/04 at 13:43
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I don't see why you lot should really have much to worry about over the annual fixture pile-up that plagues every top-of-the-league Premier League club, every year.

Arséne Wenger (as much of an A-hole as he can be) is a good manager. And Arsénal are a good team, with a strong squad of players - even if it pales in size when compared with that of Chelski's.

The fact is, you can handle it. I mean, just look at your players - they're all HUGE! Yes, even little Ashley Cole appears bigger than most in the Premiership. Wenger's a good tactician who knows how to work his men to get the very-best out of them - and nothing less. He builds them up so-highly to prepare them for such inevitabilities as this.

Arsénal players aren't the kind to just give-up easily. And, with the kind of form they're on anyway, it's not like an ounce of `fatigue´ is really gonna stand in their way and stop them from marching-on, is it...! :P
Wed 17/03/04 at 23:47
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Silent Scope wrote:
> I don't think we're quite ready to win the champions league.. but this
> season will be a learning curve for us.

Like the last oh....5 seasons :D
Wed 17/03/04 at 19:30
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I don't think we're quite ready to win the champions league.. but this season will be a learning curve for us.
I still think we need another top class defender and a Ian Wright 'Fox in the box' NOT jeffers to be able to compete with the likes of Real Madrid but who knows? We might end up with the Champions League and the Premiership.. we'll see.
Wed 17/03/04 at 19:23
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And personally, I don't see Arsenal winning the Treble. Although this season they have been lucky on the injury side of the equation, I don't really think they have enough squad depth to carry them right through to the Premiership, the final of the FA Cup and the final of the Champions League, especially seeing as they'll be play Man United, Chelsea, and maybe even Real Madrid - all twice, in the next couple of months.

As well as this, they have a couple of dodgy challenges, in the form of Bolton (well, maybe not, but then look at last season), Liverpool (on their day they could harm Arsenal, but I doubt it) and Newcastle, who can be particularly harmful at St.James' Park, when they decide they want to play properly.

I think the Premiership is pretty much wrapped up. And I'd go as far as saying it is over, IF they see off Man United at Highbury in a couple of weeks. Because once they've bypassed Man U (provided they actually do), then I don't see anyone else standing in their way. I'd say that at most, they'll lose 1 game in the Premiership this season. Hopefully they can go the whole way, completely undefeated, too.

As far as the FA Cup is concerned, again it all depends on Man United. I think that if they beat Man United, they've pretty much won it, as either Sunderland or Millwall will be the team they meet in the final. And I don't doubt that even Man United could see off those teams with relative ease, despite recent form. :-D However, I think this is Arsenal's trophy too.

Now the Champions League is the problematic one. They've pushed past Chelsea already a number of times this season, but this time it's different. Many of Chelsea's players know that their future will depend on continuing to progress in the Champions League. MAYBE they will get past Arsenal, and if they will they'll no doubt face tough opponents in Real Madrid, but if they do get by Arsenal, they could go the whole way. If Arsenal, however, bypass Chelsea, I think I'd have to say the same for them. This one is going to be a lot more difficult for Arsenal, and then if they do manage to penetrate Chelsea again with ease, Real Madrid may well be too hard an obstacle. But if Real aren't, and I believe that on their day, Arsenal would beat them, then the Champions League will be theirs.

Milan may have an easy path to the final, and also a great number of players to give the team depth, but what they don't have is the spirit of Arsenal, and as I mentioned in my previous post, enough speed on the defensive side of things. Of course, they've managed to keep one of the best defensive records in the Champions League to date, but if Thierry Henry is running at them in a couple of months time, then I'm certain that the Milan defenders, even with all their experience, won't like it a damn bit.
Wed 17/03/04 at 19:23
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By the way we are not saying WE WILL do it but it's quite possible.. even when some Man U fans laugh it off not saying anyone specific but i read the letters page on 546 on ITV sometimes.. we can beat anyone on our day just like united and chelski (cough) but it's all going to base on our spirit and form because no matter how good the team is you have to have those 2 ingredients for success. Also we can't ever go into a game vs Real for instace thinking we'll get thrashed we have to keep our team spirit and keep positive!
Wed 17/03/04 at 19:14
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Alcoholocaust wrote:
> Arsenal WILL beat real madrid, who they will NOT beat is Ac Milan, No
> way in a million years they are gonna get more then one goal, (It's
> gonna be thierry's worst nightmare) Nesta, Maldini, Costacurta,
> Cafu....

You've kind of defeated your own point though. Thierry Henry is one of the fastest players in the game today - Maldini is 37, Costacurta is 39, Cafu is 34, and Nesta just generally isn't fast. See what I mean here? I think Henry will enjoy facing this particular defensive unit, and not have nightmares.

> They got a keeper who saves penaltys for fun aswell in Dida, even
> though he does suck on crosses, but then... arsenal never cross do
> they???

Saves penalties by cheating, you mean. I've yet to see Dida save a penalty in which he hasn't jumped a few feet off his line prior to the taking of it, therefore cheating. And although him sucking on crosses wouldn't normally have much effect on Arsenal seeing as you make a fair point in saying that they don't cross, but Arsenal may have noticed this as well, and could start to cross just for this match. Provided Arsenal-AC Milan turns out to be the final anyway.
Wed 17/03/04 at 18:04
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Being really honest here i really think Arsenal can do the treble, they have the talent in the squad to give any team a tough match. I think the FA Cup and the League is theirs (although i would like Chelsea or Man Utd to scare them a bit for the title).

The only difficulty is the Champions League. Sorry to say to Chelsea Fans but Arsenal has won the Quaters and then its time to see if Arsenal can cope with the other 3 TOP European teams. Im not sure if the draw has stated the who will play who in the semi's but who ever they are Arsenal are caplible to beat them but it will be no walk over.

Just looking at this......

WňókieeMřn§†€® wrote:
March
> Sat 20th - H - Bolton - Premiership Ignore this one
> Wed 24th - A - Chelsea - Champion's League Quarter Final 1st leg
> Sun 28th - H - Man Utd - Premiership
>
> April (a killer month)
> Sat 3rd - N - Man Utd - FA Cup Semi Final
> Tue 6th - H - Chelsea - Champion's League Quarter Final 2nd leg
> Sat 10th - H - Liverpool - Premiership Ignore this aswell
> Mon 12th - A - Newcastle - Premiership

That is some mighty fixtures Arsenal have coming up and if they can deal with this as they have done through the season so far they can well go on to win the treble..
Wed 17/03/04 at 17:48
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We will only know what Arsenal can do when and if they play these teams. Speculation is irrelevant

Real have themselves said they fear Arsenal. Most teams would say they fear Real. Figure out the progression for yourself.

And to be honest, any team would be mad not to given the way we can play. On the day, anything can happen.
Wed 17/03/04 at 17:08
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And some-things are just plain black and white.
Wed 17/03/04 at 17:02
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You never know.

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