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Fri 12/03/04 at 21:04
"LOLLERSKATES!"
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man city play rivals united!

with united's poor form, maybe city can nick/win tommorow. or, it could be an outburst by united after crashing out of the champions league!

please post prdictions or team news or opinions in this thread.

my guess, 3-1 united.
Tue 16/03/04 at 20:05
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"Baros!!!"
Posts: 6,989
619 >< 619 wrote:

> Hate to tell you this but Beckham is not as good as everyone thinks
> he is. Plus he publishised for all the wrong reasons, his hair, the
> fact he wore nail varnish, get over it Beckham is crap and Real made
> a big mistake buying him. Zidane and Figo are more then twice as good
> as he is.

Stats don't lie.

Why has Beckham got the most assists for Real Madrid, when Figo and Zidane are twice as good?

Beckham was a great move for Real Madrid and a bad move for United selling him.

No one can replace Beckham at united. In my mind, there is only 1 player who comes close and that's Ronaldinho and he went off to Barcelona.
Tue 16/03/04 at 19:15
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"Which one's pink?"
Posts: 12,152
Absolu† Neó wrote:
> his own strike force couldn't score in a brothel.

Quote of the day, man.
:-D
Tue 16/03/04 at 18:50
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"Ar-gen-tina!"
Posts: 8,818
Alcoholocaust wrote:
> you bitter Glory hunter..

Heh, that comment just makes you look even more stupid than you are.

Since when did Owen come into this? since a Liverpool fan seems to find it funny outlining RVN's faults yet his own strike force couldn't score in a brothel.
Tue 16/03/04 at 18:43
"Darkness, always"
Posts: 9,603
WòókieeMøn§†€® wrote:
> Players like Henry, though, don't need service. Sure, it
> helps... like Bergkamp's beautiful through-ball against Celta Vigo
> last week... but they have the skill and ability with the ball to
> make their own goals.

I think RVN's solo effort against Fulham last season was better than most things I've seen from Henry. Thing is with Henry is that he can run at people and defenders are afraid to tackle because he can go down quite quickly. Same with RVN, of course, but RVN has the reputation for it, while Henry is the most amazing fantastic super-omni-skilled footballer who can't put a foot wrong.

I'm not saying that your point isn't valid. Henry creates as many goals as he scores, but RVN can make them too, he just doesn't as often.
Tue 16/03/04 at 16:40
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"4 time euro champs!"
Posts: 26
Since when did Michael (dosen't care no more) Owen come into this, this is an open discussion on Man Utd, do not bring in outside issues you bitter Glory hunter..
Tue 16/03/04 at 16:11
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"Ar-gen-tina!"
Posts: 8,818
Alcoholocaust wrote:
> Van Nistelrooy needs spoon- feeding, Ah well *Nostalgia* you'll never see him do that again though.... *sniggers*

I think you should concentrate on your own team because at the moment Micheal Owen can't get spoon fed from his mother let alone any other player and when he does he hits everything other than the open goal infront of him.
Tue 16/03/04 at 16:00
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"4 time euro champs!"
Posts: 26
I agree with the point, Henry took a whole defense on and Van Nistelrooy needs spoon- feeding, but as a one-off, he did do an Henry impression against Fulham last season and took it from his own half.
Ah well *Nostalgia* you'll never see him do that again though.... *sniggers* about the trebel, don't say man utd wouldnt have won anything because of arsenal, diddnt Schmaical have the greatest EVER performance of ANY player in that final, Bayern Crushed them, and they hit the post, a super managerial decision, right on that moment, yes.
but you cannot say they wouldnt have scored anyway, thats like saying if schmeical diddnt tip that Diouf shot onto the bar against city last season we'd have been in the champions league.
Why dwell?
Tue 16/03/04 at 15:40
"High polygon count"
Posts: 15,624
Don or†ega wrote:
> Not Necessarily. Single results can sometimes shape whole seasons.

You could also say that, had RvN not tried to lock his legs around Vieira's neck, there wouldn't have been the reaction which lead to Paddy's dismissal. In which case, we could have been 2-0 up by the time the penalty was awarded, making it largely irrelevant.

Alternatively, that defeat could have made United complacent, and Arsenal more determined than they currently seem to be. Then United may have lost more games, and Arsenal may not have had the draws we've had, and could be 18 points ahead or more!

Coulda, woulda, shoulda... didna.

All we have is what has actually happened. If he had scored that penalty, the only thing we know for sure that would have been changed is the outcome of that one particular game. All the rest could well have been the same as it already is.
Tue 16/03/04 at 15:40
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"Which one's pink?"
Posts: 12,152
I agree with that massively.

Thierry can create something out of absolutely nothing at all.
And he's creative as hell - would Ruud have attempted that quick free kick? Would he even have contemplated the cheeky interception against Friedel?

I think not.
Tue 16/03/04 at 15:32
"High polygon count"
Posts: 15,624
Alcoholocaust wrote:
> strike forcce at old trafford, they need to be fed like Baby's.

This for me is why Henry will always be a far better striker than RvN.

Granted, Arsenal could do with a player like RvN - the 'fox in the box' as people always call it. (Or as you said, "goal hanger" as it's called at schools around the country!)

But such players need good service from other players. No service, no goals.

Players like Henry, though, don't need service. Sure, it helps... like Bergkamp's beautiful through-ball against Celta Vigo last week... but they have the skill and ability with the ball to make their own goals.

For example, Henry's goal against Spurs at Highbury last season. Running with the ball from his own half, taking on half the Spurs team, before slotting it home for one of the goals of the season. Can you see RvN doing that? Or the free kicks, which are as accurate as any of Beckham's, but with more power?

It still puzzles me - with his jumping ability - why Henry takes corners, rather than get in the box. Too often we have crosses raining in with no-one prepared to get on the end of them. If Arsenal ever do get another Ian Wright or similar 'fox', we could double our goals per season. There's a scary thought.

Mind you, RvN recently said he'd like to play alongside Henry. And if United finish with nothing this season, and sell off their decent players (as according to today's press... yeah, right!), who knows...

Nah, just joking.

He's not good enough. ;-p

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