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Hello there, I'm having one of those burning ambitions to start creating a website for myself, a small business I want to start and well, just general stuff I guess. Now obviously, a website needs to: -
a) Look good
b) Easy to navigate
c) Have a polished look
But there's a slight problem, I'm rubbish and designing and making websites, and to be honest, it's not really a main interest of mine. Websites i've started in the past have been unfinished because I got bored, or just too crap to worth mentioning. I have no motivation to build one, I prefer to do some programming instead, in C mainly.
Anyway, I need help, I just want to make a simple website thats not cluttered, and is well, simple, a few pictures and a short bit of text. Most people have told me to learn CSS, but I really don't see the beneifit of it, and I usually just end up opening the commandline and start programming in C again.
So has anyone got any tips they can give me to just get a simple, nice looking website up and running ?
Oh and I need an idea on good hosts aswell.
a) Look good
b) Easy to navigate
c) Have a polished look
But there's a slight problem, I'm rubbish and designing and making websites, and to be honest, it's not really a main interest of mine. Websites i've started in the past have been unfinished because I got bored, or just too crap to worth mentioning. I have no motivation to build one, I prefer to do some programming instead, in C mainly.
Anyway, I need help, I just want to make a simple website thats not cluttered, and is well, simple, a few pictures and a short bit of text. Most people have told me to learn CSS, but I really don't see the beneifit of it, and I usually just end up opening the commandline and start programming in C again.
So has anyone got any tips they can give me to just get a simple, nice looking website up and running ?
Oh and I need an idea on good hosts aswell.
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Tyla wrote:
> I took a 4 week freelance job last month just to code CSS and made £5000!
*****
I just spent a week designing a site for my uncle to sell trailers and I charged him £50 ...
> I took a 4 week freelance job last month just to code CSS and made £5000!
*****
I just spent a week designing a site for my uncle to sell trailers and I charged him £50 ...
gamezfreak wrote:
> Oooo, also, whilst i'm here, I know i've asked this before, but what
> company is good for hosting? I need a host, because i'm not
> going with geocities or any other free crappy webhosting company.
*****
Ask phi11ip about Staghost - all you need is a domain name and you can get free hosting from them.
> Oooo, also, whilst i'm here, I know i've asked this before, but what
> company is good for hosting? I need a host, because i'm not
> going with geocities or any other free crappy webhosting company.
*****
Ask phi11ip about Staghost - all you need is a domain name and you can get free hosting from them.
I see.
This intrigues me a lot, I've just received an email from Timmargh with some decent advice aswell (cheers mate), and thanks Tyla. I think I understand the concept of CSS now, and i'll probably have a dabble in a bit of website creation later.
First things first though, it's time for some coffee and a bit of C I think.
Oooo, also, whilst i'm here, I know i've asked this before, but what company is good for hosting? I need a host, because i'm not going with geocities or any other free crappy webhosting company.
This intrigues me a lot, I've just received an email from Timmargh with some decent advice aswell (cheers mate), and thanks Tyla. I think I understand the concept of CSS now, and i'll probably have a dabble in a bit of website creation later.
First things first though, it's time for some coffee and a bit of C I think.
Oooo, also, whilst i'm here, I know i've asked this before, but what company is good for hosting? I need a host, because i'm not going with geocities or any other free crappy webhosting company.
gamezfreak wrote:
> Thanks JamesD.
>
> I'm looking for a relatively cheap but decent host.
>
> Can anyone explain what exactly CSS is, I don't really see
> what the whole "big deal" about it is.
Back in the days of typesetting in Quark, formatting was defined using SGML which was a complex language defining fonts and layouts in a document. CSS (Cascading Style Sheets) is like the webs simple equivalent (unlike xSLT which is far more powerful and more complex).
The concept of using CSS is to separate content from design using only scripting/Mark-up for content and CSS to dictate layout and formatting.
Basic CSS just defines fonts, colours etc, advanced CSS (CSS2/3 CSS-P) can control all elements on a page with the biggest benefit being the ability to modify changes site wide from a single file. Couple this with standards compliant, semantic mark up and life rocks!
There are several HUGE benefits to using the CSS approach, improved accessibility (now a legal requirement in the UK), and better, cleaner, faster code and probably most important to those trying to be found online, it improves your search ranking by up to 90%! Finally, its cross platform compatibility is awesome, not just from browser to browser, but media too as you only need to employ a new CSS file for print, mobile, PDA and aural without having to modify the content at all!
CSS is not something that should be shunned, with HTML3/4 being dropped in favour for xHTML 1.1 (and soon xHTML 2.0) things such as ,, "align" and various other basic formatting techniques are be deprecated leaving you only with the structural basics of etc.
> Thanks JamesD.
>
> I'm looking for a relatively cheap but decent host.
>
> Can anyone explain what exactly CSS is, I don't really see
> what the whole "big deal" about it is.
Back in the days of typesetting in Quark, formatting was defined using SGML which was a complex language defining fonts and layouts in a document. CSS (Cascading Style Sheets) is like the webs simple equivalent (unlike xSLT which is far more powerful and more complex).
The concept of using CSS is to separate content from design using only scripting/Mark-up for content and CSS to dictate layout and formatting.
Basic CSS just defines fonts, colours etc, advanced CSS (CSS2/3 CSS-P) can control all elements on a page with the biggest benefit being the ability to modify changes site wide from a single file. Couple this with standards compliant, semantic mark up and life rocks!
There are several HUGE benefits to using the CSS approach, improved accessibility (now a legal requirement in the UK), and better, cleaner, faster code and probably most important to those trying to be found online, it improves your search ranking by up to 90%! Finally, its cross platform compatibility is awesome, not just from browser to browser, but media too as you only need to employ a new CSS file for print, mobile, PDA and aural without having to modify the content at all!
CSS is not something that should be shunned, with HTML3/4 being dropped in favour for xHTML 1.1 (and soon xHTML 2.0) things such as ,
etc.
It's a lot more complex than most people realise, but it's the way the industry is moving and something which is being asked for more and more by agencies!
I took a 4 week freelance job last month just to code CSS and made £5000!
Thanks JamesD.
I'm looking fora relativly cheap but decent host.
Can anyone explain what exactly CSS is, I don't really see what the whole "big deal" about it is.
I'm looking fora relativly cheap but decent host.
Can anyone explain what exactly CSS is, I don't really see what the whole "big deal" about it is.
Pandaemonium wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
> You could always just use HTML.
>
> Too limited. It doesn't allow a great deal of dynamic creation of
> page content.
I downloaded an HTML kit from 0catch.com and it worked really well, it has some free templates which are really effective and you can easily add forms and stuff.
> Forest Fan wrote:
> You could always just use HTML.
>
> Too limited. It doesn't allow a great deal of dynamic creation of
> page content.
I downloaded an HTML kit from 0catch.com and it worked really well, it has some free templates which are really effective and you can easily add forms and stuff.
Forest Fan wrote:
> You could always just use HTML.
Too limited. It doesn't allow a great deal of dynamic creation of page content.
> You could always just use HTML.
Too limited. It doesn't allow a great deal of dynamic creation of page content.
You could always just use HTML.
Well you ask for a good host - Do you meen a free good host or a payed one.
CSS is useful to learn and would help you in making a web-site. You say your site will have to be small, so i take it nothing like Frames would need to be used (You shouldn't use them anyway). If you have a host that supports PHP then you can create simple/fast sites with good navigation.
If you want i could build up a template for you, just draw out some kind of picture and i would happily make one.
CSS is useful to learn and would help you in making a web-site. You say your site will have to be small, so i take it nothing like Frames would need to be used (You shouldn't use them anyway). If you have a host that supports PHP then you can create simple/fast sites with good navigation.
If you want i could build up a template for you, just draw out some kind of picture and i would happily make one.
Ok, I'll rephrase the question on hand here.
Who can give me advice on making a reltivly decent website. And no, I don't mean upto the standard of something like Tyla's work.
Who can give me advice on making a reltivly decent website. And no, I don't mean upto the standard of something like Tyla's work.
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