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Tue 02/03/04 at 21:28
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Seriously, this isn't one of those post where they just post it in becuase its such a common question.I really wanna know which console out of them three is the best, i dont wanna answer like " Well, the Xbox is good because of its online and the PS2 is good becuase.....blah blah blah" i just wanna know which one is the best overall, please, i really wanna know before i choose the wrong one, many thanks.
Tue 02/03/04 at 23:32
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I sadly fell into the trap of the PSONE and overlooked the Saturn. This was rectified though with the purchase of a Dreamcast after I sold my PS2. Sega still remain a top favourite, up there with Nintendo as a development company, its jut a shame they have lost their way a bit with this current generation as no game they have worked on really stands out like some of the Dreamcast titles they were behind.

Ahh Shenmue, why ever were you denied a third installment?!

Also for FPS games the PC is the best choice out of all the platforms as it has all the top FPS and more.
Tue 02/03/04 at 23:30
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Hang on a sec, you're saying that a GBA graphics chip runs at the same speed as modewrn GPUs found in PCs?


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Tue 02/03/04 at 23:27
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ÂLІÂÎR wrote:
> Der Nazi wrote:
> The XBox has a hard drive and the best graphics
>
> This still cracks me up. How many times will people continue to say
> the Xbox has the best graphics? Its down to the developer and how
> much time they are willing to invest in the hardware, capiche?
> Certain PS2 games look equally as good as anything on the market and
> GT3 to this day remains arguably the prettiest driving game ever yet
> the PS2 is classed as inferior hardware.

I've never worked with the dev kits for any of these consoles, but I did do a degree in it, so I do know what I'm talking about. Other than a few select PS2 games the graphics for it *are* worse than Xbox or Gamecube. It really just does not have the hardware for it. As you say, it is down to the developer, but the Xbox is so easy to develop for, I could build games for it now, on this PC. And if I had any sort of art skills, they would look better than if I turned my hand to the PS2 because that requires effort to look good, it doesn't with the Xbox. That's the beauty of a PC architecture.

The same goes to a degree with the Gamecube. It is basically a Mac architecure and is also easy to develop for. You have to be incompetant to make either the Xbox or Gamecube look bad, but skilled to make the PS2 look good. PGR2 is much nicer looking in every sense to GT3 incidentally.
>
> Oh and Zelda: Wind Waker for me still remains the most superbly
> animated and graphically damn right stupendous out of any game of
> this current generation, bar none.

Good animation. I just did not like their cell shading though. It wasn't right for a Zelda game I felt. It isn't even the best looking game on the GC, so it isn't going to be the best of this generation.
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> The only game to really push the boat out with the Xbox hardware was
> Dead or Alive 3, since then some have come close (Project Gotham
> Racing 2 and Splinter Cell but to name a couple) however none have
> lived up to the overall "wow" factor that Dead or Alive 3
> had/has.

PGR2, again. ESPN NHL Hockey (it requires a lot more polygons at any one time than I ever would have thought). But the single best looking game of this generation is probably Otogi. Sheer graphical goodness.
>
> Neither of the top 3 consoles have been fully pushed for all that they > are worth and I doubt they actually.
>
This is true. But the hardware gap remains, so if the PS2 was pushed to its limit it still wouldn't look as good as the Xbox or GC pushed to their limit.

> Oh and there is no such thing as the best console, its preference
> that takes precident, for me the Cube with the Resident Evil series,
> Eternal Darkness and all the kick ass stuff Nintendo and Capcom have
> managed to cook up for the Cube remains my "favourite"
> console of this generation on current track record.
>
Fair point. Resident Evil just is not doing it for me, been there done that back on the PS. I like my FPS and racers. For that Xbox is the best choice.

> Now I am back as a PC/Nintendo gamer I'm not really fussed as I get
> the best of all worlds.

Not quite. You need a Saturn dude!
Tue 02/03/04 at 23:08
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Icarus wrote:
> Riiiight.... the main ARM processor is 16 MHz (.7 to be precise), and
> seeing as it's the most powerful chip in the GBA, it won't add up to
> 233.

Im not joking that speed is 233mhz and it for 32-bit i thought it was a bit much

Do you think i meant graphics cos thats what im going on about
Tue 02/03/04 at 23:06
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Der Nazi wrote:
> The XBox has a hard drive and the best graphics

This still cracks me up. How many times will people continue to say the Xbox has the best graphics? Its down to the developer and how much time they are willing to invest in the hardware, capiche? Certain PS2 games look equally as good as anything on the market and GT3 to this day remains arguably the prettiest driving game ever yet the PS2 is classed as inferior hardware.

Oh and Zelda: Wind Waker for me still remains the most superbly animated and graphically damn right stupendous out of any game of this current generation, bar none.

The only game to really push the boat out with the Xbox hardware was Dead or Alive 3, since then some have come close (Project Gotham Racing 2 and Splinter Cell but to name a couple) however none have lived up to the overall "wow" factor that Dead or Alive 3 had/has.

Ninja Gaiden from what I gather took the combat and graphical engine straight from Dead or Alive 3 and by all accounts it is the best graphical console game of this generation.

Again though, this isn't the hardware thats done this solely on its own, its the developers initiative to actually use the hardware to whatever potential they wish. Neither of the top 3 consoles have been fully pushed for all that they are worth and I doubt they actually.

Oh and there is no such thing as the best console, its preference that takes precident, for me the Cube with the Resident Evil series, Eternal Darkness and all the kick ass stuff Nintendo and Capcom have managed to cook up for the Cube remains my "favourite" console of this generation on current track record.

Now I am back as a PC/Nintendo gamer I'm not really fussed as I get the best of all worlds.
Tue 02/03/04 at 23:00
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Riiiight.... the main ARM processor is 16 MHz (.7 to be precise), and seeing as it's the most powerful chip in the GBA, it won't add up to 233.
Tue 02/03/04 at 22:50
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Yes it does but only put togeter from several smaller microproccesors instead of one single one.

ah! see. I have opened up my gba and the microproccesors do equal up to 233mhz so there :-p
Tue 02/03/04 at 22:46
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The GBA does not have a 233mHz processor, oh mad one
Tue 02/03/04 at 22:41
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Well i think the gamecube s best as it looks smart cheap and has a efficent but strange way of media it also has a 433 mhz cpu which isnt bad a for a games console. The ps2 is my worst its slow, cheap and only a 300mhz the gameboy advance has a 233mhz and only 4mb video graphics and that infamous "disc read error" sony decideid hold the budget back and put class 2 laser products in. the xbox is the best hardware wise but i dont like it. it seems mostly for Shot'em up gamers like having halo and that. overall

Gamecube 1st
xbox 2nd
megadrive 3rd
ps2 4th
Tue 02/03/04 at 22:00
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I agree Biggles, when i play with my cousins Xbox, i find the controll really interesting, theres so many buttons, its in a kinda round shape and really comforts in your hand.The PS2 is my personal worst, its so dull and whats the word......black, theres no colour to it, yeh maybe the buttons have some colour but i need to get some glasses from specsavers to see what colour the buttons are, the colours are really dull.The Gamecube is the most colourful and kinda cheers me up in a way.

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