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Not a long topic this.
Music is catagorised into various catagories, right?
Some examples would be:
Rock
Nu-Metal
Pop
R&B
Hip Hop
Soul
Reggae
and so on.
Obviously everyone has their preferences, however, there are those that wont give a band/singer a chance if they appear to be from one catagory but aren't, if they dress a different way to the stereotypical image of the catagory, or if they sing a song from a different catagory to what they normally do.
Why not look past the catagories and just enjoy the music. Judge it by what it sounds like and how it effects you. Don't judge it purely on the basis of a label.
I leave it to you to discuss.
Music is catagorised into various catagories, right?
Some examples would be:
Rock
Nu-Metal
Pop
R&B
Hip Hop
Soul
Reggae
and so on.
Obviously everyone has their preferences, however, there are those that wont give a band/singer a chance if they appear to be from one catagory but aren't, if they dress a different way to the stereotypical image of the catagory, or if they sing a song from a different catagory to what they normally do.
Why not look past the catagories and just enjoy the music. Judge it by what it sounds like and how it effects you. Don't judge it purely on the basis of a label.
I leave it to you to discuss.
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I don't mind 'Hey Ya'; it is quite catchy, but not a particularly good song. To be honest, the only Outkast song that I realy like is 'The Whole World'; it works surprisingly well.
And I'm writing this whilst listening to 'Liar' by the Sex Pistols. Weird.
And I'm writing this whilst listening to 'Liar' by the Sex Pistols. Weird.
That is a matter of opinion.
I personally believe 'Hey ya' to be a load of crap.
I personally believe 'Hey ya' to be a load of crap.
ßora† SagdiyeV wrote:
> When decent music becomes commercialised I lose interest in it - the
> public masses are genuinely thick as chuff and will listen to
> anything.
I dunno, I mean the public are pretty much force fed battery-farmed pop divas 24/7 on the radio and TV so there isn't much choice out there. But when people do hear something great then they tend to buy it: look at the Outkast song Hey Ya, which has been kicking around the charts for months now AND is a brilliant song. I just don't think people get to hear good tunes enough times to get them into their heads: it takes a while for things to click, and so the things on heavy rotation are the things that get bought.
Case in point: Outkast. I played a friend the album a while ago. She hated it. Then Hey Ya came out and she just repeated that one track again and again, saying that the rest of the album was rubish. Now she likes I Like The Way You Move as well because she's heard it on the radio a few times. Actually, she's pretty goddamn annoying.
Anyway, I read this really cool thing about Motown. They'd play their latest tunes to a room full of kids, and the ones that made them dance would get chosen as singles. I think people are just kept stupid.
> When decent music becomes commercialised I lose interest in it - the
> public masses are genuinely thick as chuff and will listen to
> anything.
I dunno, I mean the public are pretty much force fed battery-farmed pop divas 24/7 on the radio and TV so there isn't much choice out there. But when people do hear something great then they tend to buy it: look at the Outkast song Hey Ya, which has been kicking around the charts for months now AND is a brilliant song. I just don't think people get to hear good tunes enough times to get them into their heads: it takes a while for things to click, and so the things on heavy rotation are the things that get bought.
Case in point: Outkast. I played a friend the album a while ago. She hated it. Then Hey Ya came out and she just repeated that one track again and again, saying that the rest of the album was rubish. Now she likes I Like The Way You Move as well because she's heard it on the radio a few times. Actually, she's pretty goddamn annoying.
Anyway, I read this really cool thing about Motown. They'd play their latest tunes to a room full of kids, and the ones that made them dance would get chosen as singles. I think people are just kept stupid.
The whole genre/category thing irritates me. There are bands that you can put in several genres, and some genres aren't defined by how the music sounds, but by the way the artist/s look/s.
*nods at Widges last comments*
Don't you think that some of the charm of real dance music, or any music that contains an ounce of talent, is that it IS underground, and that not every radio station from here to timbuktu(sp) is blasting it out, with 8 year old kids knowing the words to 'smack ma b**ch up' and the like.
When decent music becomes commercialised I lose interest in it - the public masses are genuinely thick as chuff and will listen to anything. Real music is constantly groundbreaking, not afraid to be completely unorthodox, while capitalising on previous ideas that have worked. Occasionally you'll get a real gem played on the radio, but as a general rule it's complete toss.
I think the final commercial straw was when I heard a trance version of 'mad world' recently. It was absolutely terrible.
Radio 1's late sessions can be usually relied upon to play some decent sets though.
Don't you think that some of the charm of real dance music, or any music that contains an ounce of talent, is that it IS underground, and that not every radio station from here to timbuktu(sp) is blasting it out, with 8 year old kids knowing the words to 'smack ma b**ch up' and the like.
When decent music becomes commercialised I lose interest in it - the public masses are genuinely thick as chuff and will listen to anything. Real music is constantly groundbreaking, not afraid to be completely unorthodox, while capitalising on previous ideas that have worked. Occasionally you'll get a real gem played on the radio, but as a general rule it's complete toss.
I think the final commercial straw was when I heard a trance version of 'mad world' recently. It was absolutely terrible.
Radio 1's late sessions can be usually relied upon to play some decent sets though.
Memorandum! wrote:
> I thought the sarcasm was obvious....
>
> I was trying to take the pisss out of people who only listen to
> really obscure bands and then abandon them if they become successful,
> claiming they've "sold out" or whatever.
That's exactly my point!
Oh no, my favourite band are making money by doing what they want to do!
Like hell it wasn't their intention in the first place!
> I thought the sarcasm was obvious....
>
> I was trying to take the pisss out of people who only listen to
> really obscure bands and then abandon them if they become successful,
> claiming they've "sold out" or whatever.
That's exactly my point!
Oh no, my favourite band are making money by doing what they want to do!
Like hell it wasn't their intention in the first place!
Memorandum! wrote:
> I thought the sarcasm was obvious....
Ooops. It is now. I just know a lot of indie kids who do have this attitude and it's pretty pathetic.
> I thought the sarcasm was obvious....
Ooops. It is now. I just know a lot of indie kids who do have this attitude and it's pretty pathetic.
Memorandum! wrote:
> I thought the sarcasm was obvious....
>
> I was trying to take the pisss out of people who only listen to
> really obscure bands and then abandon them if they become successful,
> claiming they've "sold out" or whatever.
Yeah, I hate people that do this. I should have had a ;) at the end of my previous post.
> I thought the sarcasm was obvious....
>
> I was trying to take the pisss out of people who only listen to
> really obscure bands and then abandon them if they become successful,
> claiming they've "sold out" or whatever.
Yeah, I hate people that do this. I should have had a ;) at the end of my previous post.
I thought the sarcasm was obvious....
I was trying to take the pisss out of people who only listen to really obscure bands and then abandon them if they become successful, claiming they've "sold out" or whatever.
I was trying to take the pisss out of people who only listen to really obscure bands and then abandon them if they become successful, claiming they've "sold out" or whatever.
Memorandum! wrote:
> I refuse to listen to bands who are known by more than 27 people.
I hope you're joking because that's even stupider than refusing to listen to bands who aren't known by at least 27 million people.
> I refuse to listen to bands who are known by more than 27 people.
I hope you're joking because that's even stupider than refusing to listen to bands who aren't known by at least 27 million people.
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