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Fri 20/02/04 at 22:01
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Right I am just abouts to order some new RAM for my PC. The motherboard I am buying will be the - Abit AN7 nForce2 (Socket A) Motherboard (MB-044-AB) - chipset and I am running a 2600 XP + with Windows XP (Service Pack 1 installed). I am basically looking for the fastest, most reliable and best overclocking RAM out there at the moment.

Firstly, is it worth getting PC 3700/4000 DDR Ram? I have seen 2 x 512mb of Geil PC3700 DDR RAM for £200 delivered. I will be clocking my FSB at around 200 however depending on cooling I may take it higher. Would this RAM work with this mobo? It supports Dual DDR 400 RAM and all 3 slots can be used.

Would it be worth the extra money to get PC 3700 RAM or would PC 3200 RAM do? I am looking for the best RAM with the lowest latencys for high end gaming. Money isn't really an object so just fire away with your suggestions.

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Mon 23/02/04 at 12:17
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be honest who needs that much speed on there computer i mean 1 gig will run yer comp at a super high speed!!!!
Mon 23/02/04 at 12:17
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f**k that i'll get 2x 1GB rams
Mon 23/02/04 at 12:15
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thats ok although the price of the gig does need to come down a bit after all i can buy 2X512mb for only £150 at a cheap price
Mon 23/02/04 at 12:14
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thank you, some1 agrees
Mon 23/02/04 at 12:11
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I agree the 1 gig ram needs to come back
Mon 23/02/04 at 12:07
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Who thinks special reserve should bring back the 1GB ram
Sun 22/02/04 at 23:31
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AMD_MAN wrote:
> Oh this old one about the Ram should run at the same front side bus of
> the cpu, this is not always the case, sometimes when you run the fsb
> of the memory faster than the fsb of the cpu the performance is
> actually lower but i have not found this on my own P4 rig, although i
> have found this on an athlon rig before, Also if you can have Dual
> DDR then get it as the bandwidth is more than just one stick (i.e 1 x
> PC3200 stick has a bandwidth of 3.2ghz but 2 x PC3200 Stick running
> in dual have a bandwidth of 6.4ghz), To change the multiplier the cpu
> will have to be unlocked which is easy to do on an athlon but not so
> on a P4.

Maybe not on a P4, but in a P4 overclock article by Toms Hardware they mentioned that computer performance is linked to synchronisation of the FSBs. Best thing to do is to run a bunch of benchmarks and see what happens. If you get performance increase stick with the settings, if not try RAM insync.

Yeah I have 2x512 PC3200 running in Dual channel. Well I think they are as they are in the right slots and the board is a Abit NF7-S. Anyway of checking if it is running in Dual channel?
Sun 22/02/04 at 22:57
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Oh this old one about the Ram should run at the same front side bus of the cpu, this is not always the case, sometimes when you run the fsb of the memory faster than the fsb of the cpu the performance is actually lower but i have not found this on my own P4 rig, although i have found this on an athlon rig before, Also if you can have Dual DDR then get it as the bandwidth is more than just one stick (i.e 1 x PC3200 stick has a bandwidth of 3.2ghz but 2 x PC3200 Stick running in dual have a bandwidth of 6.4ghz), To change the multiplier the cpu will have to be unlocked which is easy to do on an athlon but not so on a P4.

Colin
Sat 21/02/04 at 22:51
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Turbonutter wrote:
> adrian wrote:
> FSB of RAM should also be linked to your CPU FSB. So if the CPU can
> only go 200mhz before you get problems then its best to keep the FSB
> of the RAM the same. PC3200 is 200mhz but can be overclocked
> depending on the RAM.
>
> The DFI boards let you change the multipliers, so CPU speed is
> independant of FSB.

Yeah most boards do. What I was saying is that the best performance for a PC is if the CPU FSB is the same as the RAM FSB. So I have PC3200 in my PC but due to the XP2800 running at 333 FSB the RAM is only running at PC2700 as its insync with the CPU FSB. I have tested the PC using the CPU at 333 FSB and the RAM at 400 and the performance drop isnt too much but there is a drop in performance instead of any increase.
Sat 21/02/04 at 03:19
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I would definately recommend Corsair RAM.
Corsair XMS PRO 3200 DDR-DIMM 512MB CL2 32Meg x 8, 400MHz, with LED
that costs about £95 or
Corsair XMS PRO 4000 DDR-DIMM 512MB 32Meg x 8, 3-4-4-8, 500MHz, with LED is about £135
these come with lifetime guarantees, corsair is a quality company. If you have a window in your pc then the leds will stand out but if you don't then you could quite simply get
Corsair XMS3200LL DDR-DIMM 512MB PC3200 32Meg x 8, CAS 2-3-2-6-T1, 400MHz
which as you can see has very good timings to give uptmost performance however you;d be looking at about £99 for this stick of ram (which includes a heatsink).
From some research I have done on RAM I would say that when you are trying to get the best bang for your buck it is always a good idea to find out the timings of the stick, generally I have found that the timings are much better on the slightly slower sticks (PC3200)and therefore the performance can, in some ways, be better than a faster stick with poorer timings.

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