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Just a reminder to everyone, because like you'd forget this (!) that 24 Season 3 starts on Sky One tonight at 9PM - with no editing out either.
From the trailers it looks rather excellent..."You have a virus"...
From the trailers it looks rather excellent..."You have a virus"...
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Silent-Scope wrote:
> Sky are a bunch of idiots... they set the episodes over 1 hour in real
> time but it lasts 42 minutes allowing 18 minute advert breaks but
> they go past that by 15 mins.
The 1st episode is longer. 51 mins by my count on the NTSC Xvid version, maybe about 49 mins for the UK showing due to frame rate etc. As with everything Sky needed to extend the show by 15 mins for an extra 9 mins of footage.
> Sky are a bunch of idiots... they set the episodes over 1 hour in real
> time but it lasts 42 minutes allowing 18 minute advert breaks but
> they go past that by 15 mins.
The 1st episode is longer. 51 mins by my count on the NTSC Xvid version, maybe about 49 mins for the UK showing due to frame rate etc. As with everything Sky needed to extend the show by 15 mins for an extra 9 mins of footage.
Sky are a bunch of idiots... they set the episodes over 1 hour in real time but it lasts 42 minutes allowing 18 minute advert breaks but they go past that by 15 mins.
Mr Snuggly wrote:
> Somehow I don't think people who are addicted to heroin often act in a
> rational way, especially when they're trying to give it up cold
> turkey. And the reason Michelle and Tony talk the way they do is
> because they work for a counter-terrorist unit which is responible
> for the lives on millions of US citizens - you really think they'll
> be all lovey-dovey and smooching in front of everyone?
Like I've said before (more than once), I know the point they're trying to get across, but I just don't think it would happen like that. Jack has years upon years of experience - I don't believe someone like him would spray it all over the room. Maybe drop it, throw it down on thr floor, but to smash it into computers? I don't buy it.
And I didn't say Tony and Michelle should act "all lovey-dovey," I don't want them to act as if they're suspicious of each other. It's not a black and white X or Y situation, there's a middle ground. Just because they aren't at each other's throats doesn't mean they have to be "lovey-dovey".
> Somehow I don't think people who are addicted to heroin often act in a
> rational way, especially when they're trying to give it up cold
> turkey. And the reason Michelle and Tony talk the way they do is
> because they work for a counter-terrorist unit which is responible
> for the lives on millions of US citizens - you really think they'll
> be all lovey-dovey and smooching in front of everyone?
Like I've said before (more than once), I know the point they're trying to get across, but I just don't think it would happen like that. Jack has years upon years of experience - I don't believe someone like him would spray it all over the room. Maybe drop it, throw it down on thr floor, but to smash it into computers? I don't buy it.
And I didn't say Tony and Michelle should act "all lovey-dovey," I don't want them to act as if they're suspicious of each other. It's not a black and white X or Y situation, there's a middle ground. Just because they aren't at each other's throats doesn't mean they have to be "lovey-dovey".
Voice of reason *points below*
Somehow I don't think people who are addicted to heroin often act in a rational way, especially when they're trying to give it up cold turkey. And the reason Michelle and Tony talk the way they do is because they work for a counter-terrorist unit which is responible for the lives on millions of US citizens - you really think they'll be all lovey-dovey and smooching in front of everyone?
Well, yes, but don't forget that was just a tad unrealistic as well. I'd like to see people come into work and find their systems down, the drugs being traced to Jack and him being fired. That would sort out the problem for me.
Fair enough, still think you're being over critical though, especially with the office thing. You do remember Jack KILLED someone in that office last season right? Without asking anyone? After that a few illegal substances and a sticky keyboard are nothing...
Belldandy wrote:
> Blank, I think you need to lighten up on the criticism!
>
> I mean where you are on about Jack throwing the stuff at the
> computer? Come on, if you watched it you know Jack isn't acting
> rational because he's going cold turkey. Chase knows that and that's
> why he leaves the room so Jack can do what he wants to do - Chase
> tells him beforehand that he knows what Jack is going through but
> today isn't the day to be caught up in it.
My point was that Jack is a seasoned veteran, already brought out of retirement because nobody else could do the job as well as he could. Right? He's the best. So he wouldn't go and throw an unsterilised needle at sensitive computer systems. There'd be liquid illegal substances in the keyboards for Chist's sake, not to mention all over the floor where he squirted it. There's no plausible solution to what he did for the writer's but to just ignore, which is also implausible.
> As for Kim - yeah it's hard to believe but people can learn a hell of
> a lot in 3 years time and all we've actually seen her do is pretty
> mundane stuff actually.
We saw her show that she was just as capable as the other guy by locking his system. All the others seem to have done it their whole lives, but she hasn't. I just don't like the way she gets treated like some kind of expert.
> Michelle and Tony? Did you watch the last series? Even so the wedding
> ring on her finger was pretty obvious before she even said anything
> to Tony.
I didn't actually see the ring on her finger, but that's not the point. The point is about the way they talk to each other. They still interact in the same suspicious way that says "I could actually be your enemy and you wouldn't know". Which is fine for two normal characters, but they're supposed to be married. It doesn't feel right at all. It's poor acting.
> Palmer and the Doctor - for starters this may well be a plot line
> anyway, secondly, of course he's not going to kiss her whilst he's
> doing presidential stuff! When he does kiss her it is the first time
> he is in private with her, hence the kiss. He clearly isn't married
> to her or at least there is no evidence yet to say so.
I didn't say I wanted him to kiss her while on presidential business, but again it's just the way they interact. I don't really mind this particular one, because obviously as a president things are a bit different. I didn't like it, but it's excusable. Tony and Michelle was just plain poor.
> Sure Blank, niggling details may have ruined it for you but to me it
> sounds like you sat making them up.
And why would I do that? I loved the first two series, and I was/am hoping that this one would be as good. These things I've said are just details that struck me while watching it - did you not think that Jack wouldn't throw drugs over other people's systems in a government office?
> Ads I have no problem with, the Americans get ads anyway and I'll
> take ads with a 24 episode uncut run at decent times of the day
> anytime over how the BBC treated the program.
BBC treated it badly? Prime time slot, no ads, a program about it afterwards, next week's episode straight after on BBC3....these are bad things? They missed one or two weeks out, that's it. I'd rather have that than the crap that is Sky One. Sky One has no decent programmes at all. The ads are just horrible, they completely ruin the tension. They take you out of the programme.
> Blank, I think you need to lighten up on the criticism!
>
> I mean where you are on about Jack throwing the stuff at the
> computer? Come on, if you watched it you know Jack isn't acting
> rational because he's going cold turkey. Chase knows that and that's
> why he leaves the room so Jack can do what he wants to do - Chase
> tells him beforehand that he knows what Jack is going through but
> today isn't the day to be caught up in it.
My point was that Jack is a seasoned veteran, already brought out of retirement because nobody else could do the job as well as he could. Right? He's the best. So he wouldn't go and throw an unsterilised needle at sensitive computer systems. There'd be liquid illegal substances in the keyboards for Chist's sake, not to mention all over the floor where he squirted it. There's no plausible solution to what he did for the writer's but to just ignore, which is also implausible.
> As for Kim - yeah it's hard to believe but people can learn a hell of
> a lot in 3 years time and all we've actually seen her do is pretty
> mundane stuff actually.
We saw her show that she was just as capable as the other guy by locking his system. All the others seem to have done it their whole lives, but she hasn't. I just don't like the way she gets treated like some kind of expert.
> Michelle and Tony? Did you watch the last series? Even so the wedding
> ring on her finger was pretty obvious before she even said anything
> to Tony.
I didn't actually see the ring on her finger, but that's not the point. The point is about the way they talk to each other. They still interact in the same suspicious way that says "I could actually be your enemy and you wouldn't know". Which is fine for two normal characters, but they're supposed to be married. It doesn't feel right at all. It's poor acting.
> Palmer and the Doctor - for starters this may well be a plot line
> anyway, secondly, of course he's not going to kiss her whilst he's
> doing presidential stuff! When he does kiss her it is the first time
> he is in private with her, hence the kiss. He clearly isn't married
> to her or at least there is no evidence yet to say so.
I didn't say I wanted him to kiss her while on presidential business, but again it's just the way they interact. I don't really mind this particular one, because obviously as a president things are a bit different. I didn't like it, but it's excusable. Tony and Michelle was just plain poor.
> Sure Blank, niggling details may have ruined it for you but to me it
> sounds like you sat making them up.
And why would I do that? I loved the first two series, and I was/am hoping that this one would be as good. These things I've said are just details that struck me while watching it - did you not think that Jack wouldn't throw drugs over other people's systems in a government office?
> Ads I have no problem with, the Americans get ads anyway and I'll
> take ads with a 24 episode uncut run at decent times of the day
> anytime over how the BBC treated the program.
BBC treated it badly? Prime time slot, no ads, a program about it afterwards, next week's episode straight after on BBC3....these are bad things? They missed one or two weeks out, that's it. I'd rather have that than the crap that is Sky One. Sky One has no decent programmes at all. The ads are just horrible, they completely ruin the tension. They take you out of the programme.
Think it repeats Saturdays.
I have a new theory! What does everyone think?
The kid with the drugs DOES have the infected drugs BUT he's "sampled" them, hence why his mum is ill - he's younger and the virus is a respiratory one so probably the effects aren't as immediate as on older people. If the kid is infected, then other kids are, and everyone they met is, and everyone they met is etc.
I have a new theory! What does everyone think?
The kid with the drugs DOES have the infected drugs BUT he's "sampled" them, hence why his mum is ill - he's younger and the virus is a respiratory one so probably the effects aren't as immediate as on older people. If the kid is infected, then other kids are, and everyone they met is, and everyone they met is etc.
Does anyone know if there's a repeat by any chance? I missed it. :(
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