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Most of you will have taken one look at the length of this post and thought “I don’t have time in my busy important significant life to read this post”, some of you will think “Hmm, maybe its worth a scan over with my eyes” and very few of you will actually take the time to read what I have to say.
Let me begin by telling some stories, to help you understand me. The other day I saw a kid, of about 13, walking along in the snow, he had one arm out and was scooping all the snow off the wall next to him, the only flat surface around really. He scooped all of the snow off and onto the ground, and then proceeded to stamp it into slush, before walking away and starting on the next surface. This reminds me of the kid on the beach, who has to destroy another kids sandcastle simple because he is jealous, so, he waits and will either “accidentally” run through it, or wait until the owner walks away and simply jump up and down on it. Now as horrible as this is for the creator, the destroyer will be overcome with a sense of achievement, and the scary part is, we’ve all had the urge to do this, destroy someone else’s wok I mean.
As we grow up, we achieve no level of maturity, we simply scale things up, we will physically fight and verbally abuse those we are jealous of, we will vandalise their property, and in some cases actually kill those we envy.
Envy. It’s a sin. Envy. If we we’re, as the bible says, created in the eyes of god, then we have always been evil, for if we weren’t, Adam and Eve wouldn’t have taken the apple, in fact, “sins” wouldn’t even exist for we’d all be perfect.
So why o why did God give us free will. It’s a dangerous thing, we don’t help people of our own free will, we just play the world for our own personal gain.
The human race is an evil thing. It’s the most evil thing to plague this earth. We, have the intelligence to communicate, and yet we are the most destructive things on the planet.
Now if you are a believer in evolution, then you would be familiar with the idea of “survival of the fittest”. Well, we’re still here, so we’re the fittest. That would mean, we killed all those weaker than us in order to survive. I mean, we’re intelligent enough to survive, but rather than help those who weren’t, we simply let them die. We, are both the fittest, and the deadliest. If we have a war, the man with his fists, who has no intelligence, will lose to the man with military weapons, but why does the man with military weapons have them? To kill. We will kill anything that poses a threat to us, and most things that are different to us.
We live in a world where hate crimes are on the increase, murders, drugs, rape, domestic violence, bullying, corruption and suicide are all things we know, and we created. We are divided, into groups, like the Mods and rockers before us, the grungers and trendys now stand. The Naiveté of some people is sickening. 8 year old children who will shout “grunger” at a 20 year old man in baggy jeans, is a creation of a sick perception of what is acceptable in society, a product of bad breeding. Going back to what I said before about a creation in the eyes of god, I don’t think Adam had bling bling and Eve had her tongue pieced, but I’m sure if they did, they would have hated each other without knowing why.
The point is, children grow up to act like those around them. We are the only influence. Why anyone would want to bring a child into a world as sick and unforgiving as this is something that will perplex me for many years to come I am sure. The sick world we live in today was created by us.
Even the ones we love and protect are vulnerable to us. In fact, it’s the ones we love the most that we hurt the most. We don’t deserve anyone, we deserve to be alone, and suffering in the filth we created. If we are with anyone, we will simply create rivalry, hurt, jealousy and hate. The only time a group of people come together is when they have a bigger group of people to fight.
In short, we deserve nothing. We shouldn’t even exist, we are a plague, a virus, we spread and destroy. We have a choke hold on this world and we should just let it go. Because lets face it, we don’t care about anyone or thing but ourselves. And this world will end one day, inevitably, and we’ll be the cause, someone will push a red button to prove he wont surrender to another country. The empires will crumble, the innocents will die, and those just born into this world will be saved from the harshness of it. When the world ends, only then will people be at peace.
We live in a world of suffering, death and destruction, because of the human race. Human beings are a failure.
I am a human being.
Let me begin by telling some stories, to help you understand me. The other day I saw a kid, of about 13, walking along in the snow, he had one arm out and was scooping all the snow off the wall next to him, the only flat surface around really. He scooped all of the snow off and onto the ground, and then proceeded to stamp it into slush, before walking away and starting on the next surface. This reminds me of the kid on the beach, who has to destroy another kids sandcastle simple because he is jealous, so, he waits and will either “accidentally” run through it, or wait until the owner walks away and simply jump up and down on it. Now as horrible as this is for the creator, the destroyer will be overcome with a sense of achievement, and the scary part is, we’ve all had the urge to do this, destroy someone else’s wok I mean.
As we grow up, we achieve no level of maturity, we simply scale things up, we will physically fight and verbally abuse those we are jealous of, we will vandalise their property, and in some cases actually kill those we envy.
Envy. It’s a sin. Envy. If we we’re, as the bible says, created in the eyes of god, then we have always been evil, for if we weren’t, Adam and Eve wouldn’t have taken the apple, in fact, “sins” wouldn’t even exist for we’d all be perfect.
So why o why did God give us free will. It’s a dangerous thing, we don’t help people of our own free will, we just play the world for our own personal gain.
The human race is an evil thing. It’s the most evil thing to plague this earth. We, have the intelligence to communicate, and yet we are the most destructive things on the planet.
Now if you are a believer in evolution, then you would be familiar with the idea of “survival of the fittest”. Well, we’re still here, so we’re the fittest. That would mean, we killed all those weaker than us in order to survive. I mean, we’re intelligent enough to survive, but rather than help those who weren’t, we simply let them die. We, are both the fittest, and the deadliest. If we have a war, the man with his fists, who has no intelligence, will lose to the man with military weapons, but why does the man with military weapons have them? To kill. We will kill anything that poses a threat to us, and most things that are different to us.
We live in a world where hate crimes are on the increase, murders, drugs, rape, domestic violence, bullying, corruption and suicide are all things we know, and we created. We are divided, into groups, like the Mods and rockers before us, the grungers and trendys now stand. The Naiveté of some people is sickening. 8 year old children who will shout “grunger” at a 20 year old man in baggy jeans, is a creation of a sick perception of what is acceptable in society, a product of bad breeding. Going back to what I said before about a creation in the eyes of god, I don’t think Adam had bling bling and Eve had her tongue pieced, but I’m sure if they did, they would have hated each other without knowing why.
The point is, children grow up to act like those around them. We are the only influence. Why anyone would want to bring a child into a world as sick and unforgiving as this is something that will perplex me for many years to come I am sure. The sick world we live in today was created by us.
Even the ones we love and protect are vulnerable to us. In fact, it’s the ones we love the most that we hurt the most. We don’t deserve anyone, we deserve to be alone, and suffering in the filth we created. If we are with anyone, we will simply create rivalry, hurt, jealousy and hate. The only time a group of people come together is when they have a bigger group of people to fight.
In short, we deserve nothing. We shouldn’t even exist, we are a plague, a virus, we spread and destroy. We have a choke hold on this world and we should just let it go. Because lets face it, we don’t care about anyone or thing but ourselves. And this world will end one day, inevitably, and we’ll be the cause, someone will push a red button to prove he wont surrender to another country. The empires will crumble, the innocents will die, and those just born into this world will be saved from the harshness of it. When the world ends, only then will people be at peace.
We live in a world of suffering, death and destruction, because of the human race. Human beings are a failure.
I am a human being.
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El Pinko wrote:
> Lil Ginge wrote:
> You cannot say that at points in your life you do not feel the
> rewards of life and love it.
>
> Yes but there will always be someone there to try to ruin it and
> take it from you.
Every single time you laugh, smile or have a sense of joy?
Everytime you feel proud?
Everytime you enjoy a movie?
Will someone always be out to get you?
> Lil Ginge wrote:
> You cannot say that at points in your life you do not feel the
> rewards of life and love it.
>
> Yes but there will always be someone there to try to ruin it and
> take it from you.
Every single time you laugh, smile or have a sense of joy?
Everytime you feel proud?
Everytime you enjoy a movie?
Will someone always be out to get you?
Lil Ginge wrote:
> You cannot say that at points in your life you do not feel the
> rewards of life and love it.
Yes but there will always be someone there to try to ruin it and take it from you.
> You cannot say that at points in your life you do not feel the
> rewards of life and love it.
Yes but there will always be someone there to try to ruin it and take it from you.
El Pinko wrote:
> Yes, but, If in life we are attracted to the bad things shown by the
> media, then we will be influenced by them, as this passes down
> throught generations, it will influence the behaviour of a society,
> dropping its standards...
The media and society have always been as corrupted. Society has low standards in the past things were as bad as they are now. In some ways things in present day are alot better - womens rights... Black African men and women are not tied up to slavery and transported on a fifteenth century boat!
But other things are generally not great either....
.. My point. Yes life looks horrible and some things are disgusting, evil and depressing but there are also plenty of things - more i say that make life worth it and so rewarding.
Waying up good and bad.
I will not let myself think bad of an entire race to the point I decide 'life should end' 'we are all evil' 'we deserve nothing'. These feelings are fuelled by the things you hear and look at on the news. The bad things that happen in life. Not once have you commented on you laughing. Joy. Love. Happiness.
You cannot say that at points in your life you do not feel the rewards of life and love it.
> Yes, but, If in life we are attracted to the bad things shown by the
> media, then we will be influenced by them, as this passes down
> throught generations, it will influence the behaviour of a society,
> dropping its standards...
The media and society have always been as corrupted. Society has low standards in the past things were as bad as they are now. In some ways things in present day are alot better - womens rights... Black African men and women are not tied up to slavery and transported on a fifteenth century boat!
But other things are generally not great either....
.. My point. Yes life looks horrible and some things are disgusting, evil and depressing but there are also plenty of things - more i say that make life worth it and so rewarding.
Waying up good and bad.
I will not let myself think bad of an entire race to the point I decide 'life should end' 'we are all evil' 'we deserve nothing'. These feelings are fuelled by the things you hear and look at on the news. The bad things that happen in life. Not once have you commented on you laughing. Joy. Love. Happiness.
You cannot say that at points in your life you do not feel the rewards of life and love it.
Ah, contemplating being future parents?
Heh, I'll stay out...
Heh, I'll stay out...
Yes, but, If in life we are attracted to the bad things shown by the media, then we will be influenced by them, as this passes down throught generations, it will influence the behaviour of a society, dropping its standards...
El Pinko wrote:
> You just had to exceed the length of my post with a reply didnt you!?
>
> To say we make our own decisions without influence, is a two sided
> coin. Yes its our decision, but we make that decision based around
> the morals and rules we have been brought up to believe.
>
> Child A's Parents smoke, Child B's do not. Both children have a
> decision of free will as to whether they will smoke or not, but Child
> A will not see smoking as badly as child B simply because smoking
> effects the lives onf those around him, changing his views. So, we as
> humans have every effect on younger generations points of judgement.
This still does not determine that we live in a sick world and that the children should not be born.
Yes they are going to be influenced everybody will be. This is - infact life.
But both children inevitabablly have their own choices to make. Whether they are harder or not. They have choice.
> You just had to exceed the length of my post with a reply didnt you!?
>
> To say we make our own decisions without influence, is a two sided
> coin. Yes its our decision, but we make that decision based around
> the morals and rules we have been brought up to believe.
>
> Child A's Parents smoke, Child B's do not. Both children have a
> decision of free will as to whether they will smoke or not, but Child
> A will not see smoking as badly as child B simply because smoking
> effects the lives onf those around him, changing his views. So, we as
> humans have every effect on younger generations points of judgement.
This still does not determine that we live in a sick world and that the children should not be born.
Yes they are going to be influenced everybody will be. This is - infact life.
But both children inevitabablly have their own choices to make. Whether they are harder or not. They have choice.
You just had to exceed the length of my post with a reply didnt you!?
To say we make our own decisions without influence, is a two sided coin. Yes its our decision, but we make that decision based around the morals and rules we have been brought up to believe.
Child A's Parents smoke, Child B's do not. Both children have a decision of free will as to whether they will smoke or not, but Child A will not see smoking as badly as child B simply because smoking effects the lives onf those around him, changing his views. So, we as humans have every effect on younger generations points of judgement.
To say we make our own decisions without influence, is a two sided coin. Yes its our decision, but we make that decision based around the morals and rules we have been brought up to believe.
Child A's Parents smoke, Child B's do not. Both children have a decision of free will as to whether they will smoke or not, but Child A will not see smoking as badly as child B simply because smoking effects the lives onf those around him, changing his views. So, we as humans have every effect on younger generations points of judgement.
’Envy. It’s a sin. Envy. If we we’re, as the bible says, created in the eyes of god, then we have always been evil, for if we weren’t, Adam and Eve wouldn’t have taken the apple, in fact, “sins” wouldn’t even exist for we’d all be perfect. So why o why did God give us free will. It’s a dangerous thing, we don’t help people of our own free will, we just play the world for our own personal gain.’
We are not perfect. Perfection cannot be found in human beings. BUT because we make screw ups and sin – this does not mean we are evil. If we are not perfect than it is impossible not to sin. But sin is not always the definition of evil. God gave us free will because he loves us and wanted to give us choice. If God had not given us free will you would not have been able to come to your own conclusions and see what you see about the world. You wouldn’t have choices, independence and freedom to love and do what you want to do. Not all men are evil. Not all men kill and are full perversion and not all mankind do the things you describe. Some of us are good decent people that make mistakes. Evil is a very strong word and shouldn’t be taken lightly.
’The point is, children grow up to act like those around them. We are the only influence. Why anyone would want to bring a child into a world as sick and unforgiving as this is something that will perplex me for many years to come I am sure. The sick world we live in today was created by us.’
Children can be a beautiful gift and although you may hold a very sensitive and pessimistic view on the world we live in some people think there are things in this life that are worth living for. A child will enter this world innocent. Completely innocent. It is then how they choose to live that makes them what they are.. no doubt the influences of others come into it. But I believe we are more than a simple product of others. We all still hold very unique views and the way we work are different. Deep down I truly believe we are capable of making our own choices and in some cases this is very apparent.
’Even the ones we love and protect are vulnerable to us. In fact, it’s the ones we love the most that we hurt the most. We don’t deserve anyone, we deserve to be alone, and suffering in the filth we created. If we are with anyone, we will simply create rivalry, hurt, jealousy and hate.’
Nobody does not deserve someone. We do not deserve to be alone in case we have arguments and relationships break down. There are parts of life such as love and passion that are key beautiful elements of life and these – inevitably will be met by the worse parts of our nature such as the emotions above. But because we hurt eachother sometimes does not mean that we should discard of a loved one for hurting them. In most cases the hurt that is caused is much less than the love and affection showed. If the owrse one out ways the other than the relationship will ceases naturally if the love is worth working through hard times and such forth because someone is being hurt is not always a valid reason not to deserve them. Sometimes good outways bad.
’In short, we deserve nothing. We shouldn’t even exist, we are a plague, a virus, we spread and destroy. We have a choke hold on this world and we should just let it go. Because lets face it, we don’t care about anyone or thing but ourselves. And this world will end one day, inevitably, and we’ll be the cause, someone will push a red button to prove he wont surrender to another country. The empires will crumble, the innocents will die, and those just born into this world will be saved from the harshness of it. When the world ends, only then will people be at peace.
I completely disagree – again. We deserve what we work for. We deserve who we treat with respect and love and care for. We do not all spread and destroy this is all very broad.
There are some fantastic minded people that do lots to help others. There are slackers to – but im sure we are all friends with all kinds of people and love them for who they are even still. We do care about eachother.
I am sure that in your life there is atleast one person you have cared for and loved. If we did not exist what would be?
Would you enjoy a computer or a game? A kiss or the feel of a beautiful beach?
The world we live in can be a very sick place. people have captured and murdered small children, people fight against eachother for material things, a man will kill hundreds of elderly citizens for money and some people even bring themselves to deliberate suicide to kill thousands of innocent people to express a belief.
Yes - these things are all human creations. Things that some of our race have done and come to. These things are nothing other than sick devastating monstroseties that make us feel ill inside.
We live in a world of suffering, death and destruction, because of the human race. Human beings are a failure.’
Some things that are on this heart I feel are worth trying for. Some people kill and hurt but that is not everyone. Yes the world in these ways you put it can be seen as sick. But if you look around and think how amazing the earth and people on it can be than I am sure you will start to see more to life.
I feel that even though sometimes we feel life sucks and we suck and it should all just stop. Somethings are worth living for.
We are not perfect. Perfection cannot be found in human beings. BUT because we make screw ups and sin – this does not mean we are evil. If we are not perfect than it is impossible not to sin. But sin is not always the definition of evil. God gave us free will because he loves us and wanted to give us choice. If God had not given us free will you would not have been able to come to your own conclusions and see what you see about the world. You wouldn’t have choices, independence and freedom to love and do what you want to do. Not all men are evil. Not all men kill and are full perversion and not all mankind do the things you describe. Some of us are good decent people that make mistakes. Evil is a very strong word and shouldn’t be taken lightly.
’The point is, children grow up to act like those around them. We are the only influence. Why anyone would want to bring a child into a world as sick and unforgiving as this is something that will perplex me for many years to come I am sure. The sick world we live in today was created by us.’
Children can be a beautiful gift and although you may hold a very sensitive and pessimistic view on the world we live in some people think there are things in this life that are worth living for. A child will enter this world innocent. Completely innocent. It is then how they choose to live that makes them what they are.. no doubt the influences of others come into it. But I believe we are more than a simple product of others. We all still hold very unique views and the way we work are different. Deep down I truly believe we are capable of making our own choices and in some cases this is very apparent.
’Even the ones we love and protect are vulnerable to us. In fact, it’s the ones we love the most that we hurt the most. We don’t deserve anyone, we deserve to be alone, and suffering in the filth we created. If we are with anyone, we will simply create rivalry, hurt, jealousy and hate.’
Nobody does not deserve someone. We do not deserve to be alone in case we have arguments and relationships break down. There are parts of life such as love and passion that are key beautiful elements of life and these – inevitably will be met by the worse parts of our nature such as the emotions above. But because we hurt eachother sometimes does not mean that we should discard of a loved one for hurting them. In most cases the hurt that is caused is much less than the love and affection showed. If the owrse one out ways the other than the relationship will ceases naturally if the love is worth working through hard times and such forth because someone is being hurt is not always a valid reason not to deserve them. Sometimes good outways bad.
’In short, we deserve nothing. We shouldn’t even exist, we are a plague, a virus, we spread and destroy. We have a choke hold on this world and we should just let it go. Because lets face it, we don’t care about anyone or thing but ourselves. And this world will end one day, inevitably, and we’ll be the cause, someone will push a red button to prove he wont surrender to another country. The empires will crumble, the innocents will die, and those just born into this world will be saved from the harshness of it. When the world ends, only then will people be at peace.
I completely disagree – again. We deserve what we work for. We deserve who we treat with respect and love and care for. We do not all spread and destroy this is all very broad.
There are some fantastic minded people that do lots to help others. There are slackers to – but im sure we are all friends with all kinds of people and love them for who they are even still. We do care about eachother.
I am sure that in your life there is atleast one person you have cared for and loved. If we did not exist what would be?
Would you enjoy a computer or a game? A kiss or the feel of a beautiful beach?
The world we live in can be a very sick place. people have captured and murdered small children, people fight against eachother for material things, a man will kill hundreds of elderly citizens for money and some people even bring themselves to deliberate suicide to kill thousands of innocent people to express a belief.
Yes - these things are all human creations. Things that some of our race have done and come to. These things are nothing other than sick devastating monstroseties that make us feel ill inside.
We live in a world of suffering, death and destruction, because of the human race. Human beings are a failure.’
Some things that are on this heart I feel are worth trying for. Some people kill and hurt but that is not everyone. Yes the world in these ways you put it can be seen as sick. But if you look around and think how amazing the earth and people on it can be than I am sure you will start to see more to life.
I feel that even though sometimes we feel life sucks and we suck and it should all just stop. Somethings are worth living for.
Belldandy wrote:
> I think any kind of real explanation of humanity at this point in
> time would fill Special Reserve's server capacity. It's just not that
> simple or clear cut.
True
> In the absolute direst times the world can and does come together.
> Look at the aftermath of 9/11, the SARS crisis, the current Bird Flu
> epidemic - slowly the world is coming together to meet the problems
> of the future and today.
Exactly my point at one point though, we only come togther when we've got something bigger to fight!
Thank you for replying with your views.
> I think any kind of real explanation of humanity at this point in
> time would fill Special Reserve's server capacity. It's just not that
> simple or clear cut.
True
> In the absolute direst times the world can and does come together.
> Look at the aftermath of 9/11, the SARS crisis, the current Bird Flu
> epidemic - slowly the world is coming together to meet the problems
> of the future and today.
Exactly my point at one point though, we only come togther when we've got something bigger to fight!
Thank you for replying with your views.
El Pinko wrote:
> FinalFantasyFanatic wrote:
> Cheer up Pinko, there'll always *be* chipsticks.
>
> *Cheers up*
>
> O and belldandy (this is in no way a critisism) I see you saying my
> points are flawed, I'd like to here yours (seriously).
I think any kind of real explanation of humanity at this point in time would fill Special Reserve's server capacity. It's just not that simple or clear cut.
Fact is it has always been a world of suffering, death and destruction because those factors cannot, given our development, be erased. But, through history, the conditions in which people live and of the world have slowly improved. 100 years ago, unless you had serious money, most of us lot could expect to be dead by about 40. Now we'll live to beyond 80. Sure, we have problems, but we also have people who use their lives to try and sort out those problems. There are good people doing good things in this world but they get drowned out by the negatives.
In the absolute direst times the world can and does come together. Look at the aftermath of 9/11, the SARS crisis, the current Bird Flu epidemic - slowly the world is coming together to meet the problems of the future and today. It's not surprising that large parts of the media are dismayed by that because they're left without stuff to fill their time and page space.
If anything threatens humanity it's apathy, negativity and self interest.
Look at the fuss over the war with Iraq. We liberated a nation from an evil regime, but the momentum was only built up to do so because we believed we were in danger. For 12 years we sat back and did feck all because we were safe.
Part of the current doom and gloom attitudes about the world and the future are, I believe, a consequence of the times we live in. I've said this before, but on New Years Eve 1999 the future looked relatively good. The world was not without problems 1999 - as the Balkans crisis was starting to resolve itself - to September 2001 there was really very few major crisis' on the horizon. World economy was relatively good, so were most national economies. Then 9/11 happens and the world changes in a matter of minutes. There is so much hatred and misunderstanding right now that it is hard to be positive, but we'll get through this time and what we reach after this time will be better.
> FinalFantasyFanatic wrote:
> Cheer up Pinko, there'll always *be* chipsticks.
>
> *Cheers up*
>
> O and belldandy (this is in no way a critisism) I see you saying my
> points are flawed, I'd like to here yours (seriously).
I think any kind of real explanation of humanity at this point in time would fill Special Reserve's server capacity. It's just not that simple or clear cut.
Fact is it has always been a world of suffering, death and destruction because those factors cannot, given our development, be erased. But, through history, the conditions in which people live and of the world have slowly improved. 100 years ago, unless you had serious money, most of us lot could expect to be dead by about 40. Now we'll live to beyond 80. Sure, we have problems, but we also have people who use their lives to try and sort out those problems. There are good people doing good things in this world but they get drowned out by the negatives.
In the absolute direst times the world can and does come together. Look at the aftermath of 9/11, the SARS crisis, the current Bird Flu epidemic - slowly the world is coming together to meet the problems of the future and today. It's not surprising that large parts of the media are dismayed by that because they're left without stuff to fill their time and page space.
If anything threatens humanity it's apathy, negativity and self interest.
Look at the fuss over the war with Iraq. We liberated a nation from an evil regime, but the momentum was only built up to do so because we believed we were in danger. For 12 years we sat back and did feck all because we were safe.
Part of the current doom and gloom attitudes about the world and the future are, I believe, a consequence of the times we live in. I've said this before, but on New Years Eve 1999 the future looked relatively good. The world was not without problems 1999 - as the Balkans crisis was starting to resolve itself - to September 2001 there was really very few major crisis' on the horizon. World economy was relatively good, so were most national economies. Then 9/11 happens and the world changes in a matter of minutes. There is so much hatred and misunderstanding right now that it is hard to be positive, but we'll get through this time and what we reach after this time will be better.
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