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Mac has announced that Nvidia's GeForce3 graphics processor will be available for the Mac before it's released with Microsofts Xbox games console.
What exactly does this information tell everyone here and why is er-no posting it as a new topic? Well the reason being that it gives us lots of information about Microsofts console that Microsoft don't want us to know! The GeForce3 graphics chip is being made readily available for Macs in three months time, then two months after that PC's will be able to use the graphics chip, quite suprising considering Microsoft said that the chip would be unique to the Xbox! What else does this beautiful piece of information tell us apart from the fact that the Xbox won't boost anything graphically compared to when you run the chip on a Mac and that it will by the time the Xbox launches all have been seen before.
The news tells you a hint on the Xbox's price, Microsoft making no announcement as yet on price but the news gives you a hints, the chip will sell at £240 for the Mac and then PC, although you can't go make up an Xbox price from this figure it bounces clues at the £400+ easily.
When looking for news on consoles and gaming, don't always look for the companies news or ign's news, look at other news which may not have anything to do with gaming but reading inbetween the lines can give you hints at what is going to happen before companies announce it.
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From the predictor of all things gaming: er-no
> I am very close to pre-ordering a Gameboy Advar'nce, from SR, of
> course...
Only four days till I own one myself! with Fzero and MkartAdv.. what a price.. what a console..i love japan...
Nothing to do with me being sans brain mind...
That's $2,000,000,000, which in terms of Bill Gates' estimated personal fortune is about one fifth of what he's got, so in terms of Microsoft's turnover that would be pocket change.
Sony lost/are losing an estimated $800,000,000 (8 hundred million dollars) following the launch of the PS2, but they are expecting to recoup that, as I suspect are Microsoft.
How they recoup their initial losses following launch is up to each individual company, and I am sure that they will not be trying to recoup it from the consumer, we've had enough of that in the past and I think that both these companies realise that, so the gaming production industry are going to be asked to help out here.
I bet Nintendo have a right old laugh at their board meetings over these figures, who could blame them?
But the point is, Microsoft have a problem on their hands, and unlike those mirrors in Jurrasic Park, things are actually appearing smaller than they should look like, and Microsoft are filtering the bad publicity, and getting from it pure marketing gold.
This line, in the Web Monkeys news report, although quite small, could be quite devastating.
"The document also revealed that developers can expect less per game sold than on other platforms."
Firstly, this is obviously bad news for the developer, which leads to bad news for the consumer... but if we look further...
WHY will the games sell for less? WHY are Microsoft taking the money?
(Bill needs another ivory backscratcher?)
Not quite.
The X-Box, already pointed out, will lose money at the price Microsoft is intending to sell it for... But surely Microsoft will be able to fund the losses, instead of taking them from game sales, deducted from the developers slice of the pie?
I see two possibilitys here.
1) Microsoft really are that tight fisted, and are funding the X-Box's losses from taking developers money.
2) The X-Box is going to lose a lot more than we originally expected.
Even though Microsoft are the most likely candidate to make point 1 possible, surely Microsoft should be trying their best to encourage developers at this early stage? Not so long ago, Microsoft were HYPING the fact to developers that their production costs were less than the competition... this would probably bring it back up. So unless Microsoft are much more stupid than we thought, we can rule out point 1.
Which leaves point 2. And brings us back to the original point er-no made on the graphics chip... It looks like Microsoft have set their sights too high, and are going to end up crashing back down, like they did when they tried to enter the arcades all those years back.
I don't know what Sony will have to say about the X-Box, I don't think that they will see it as such of a threat as the PS2 has been around for over a year on Japan, and the X-box could arrive there 2 years later by which time the PS2 should be about £200 in places and The Gamecube a similar price.
Microsoft have a lot to contend with but they are bringing quite a lot to the fight, I just hope that that 'a lot' is games and on-line access...
Who Knows?!
I think this move shows that Microsoft are seriously worried by the Nintendo threat!
Xbox will not be online until it's second year of availability. That means that, out of the box, there will be no online capability, AND no DVD capabilty.
Whoops.