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Wed 28/03/01 at 22:16
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Well then lets just look at this news that is official:

Mac has announced that Nvidia's GeForce3 graphics processor will be available for the Mac before it's released with Microsofts Xbox games console.

What exactly does this information tell everyone here and why is er-no posting it as a new topic? Well the reason being that it gives us lots of information about Microsofts console that Microsoft don't want us to know! The GeForce3 graphics chip is being made readily available for Macs in three months time, then two months after that PC's will be able to use the graphics chip, quite suprising considering Microsoft said that the chip would be unique to the Xbox! What else does this beautiful piece of information tell us apart from the fact that the Xbox won't boost anything graphically compared to when you run the chip on a Mac and that it will by the time the Xbox launches all have been seen before.
The news tells you a hint on the Xbox's price, Microsoft making no announcement as yet on price but the news gives you a hints, the chip will sell at £240 for the Mac and then PC, although you can't go make up an Xbox price from this figure it bounces clues at the £400+ easily.

When looking for news on consoles and gaming, don't always look for the companies news or ign's news, look at other news which may not have anything to do with gaming but reading inbetween the lines can give you hints at what is going to happen before companies announce it.

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Thu 29/03/01 at 19:04
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Grix Thraves wrote:
> I am very close to pre-ordering a Gameboy Advar'nce, from SR, of
> course...

Only four days till I own one myself! with Fzero and MkartAdv.. what a price.. what a console..i love japan...
Thu 29/03/01 at 19:01
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I am very close to pre-ordering a Gameboy Advar'nce, from SR, of course...

Nothing to do with me being sans brain mind...
Thu 29/03/01 at 18:53
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Yes Nintendo are properly having a jolly good laugh while they look at the sales figures for the GBA surpass anything that has ever been released before, and up the red line goes, even without the Pokemon game the GBA can outsell anything, what will it be like with pokemon?
Thu 29/03/01 at 16:31
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Current figures on the web indicate that Microsoft is prepared to lose $2 billion during the first year of the X-Box's launch to get it onto the market.

That's $2,000,000,000, which in terms of Bill Gates' estimated personal fortune is about one fifth of what he's got, so in terms of Microsoft's turnover that would be pocket change.

Sony lost/are losing an estimated $800,000,000 (8 hundred million dollars) following the launch of the PS2, but they are expecting to recoup that, as I suspect are Microsoft.

How they recoup their initial losses following launch is up to each individual company, and I am sure that they will not be trying to recoup it from the consumer, we've had enough of that in the past and I think that both these companies realise that, so the gaming production industry are going to be asked to help out here.

I bet Nintendo have a right old laugh at their board meetings over these figures, who could blame them?



Thu 29/03/01 at 16:19
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I always said that the graphics chip would do more harm than good... make a dedicated one, I told Bill... he told me to get out, and called security.

But the point is, Microsoft have a problem on their hands, and unlike those mirrors in Jurrasic Park, things are actually appearing smaller than they should look like, and Microsoft are filtering the bad publicity, and getting from it pure marketing gold.

This line, in the Web Monkeys news report, although quite small, could be quite devastating.

"The document also revealed that developers can expect less per game sold than on other platforms."

Firstly, this is obviously bad news for the developer, which leads to bad news for the consumer... but if we look further...

WHY will the games sell for less? WHY are Microsoft taking the money?

(Bill needs another ivory backscratcher?)

Not quite.

The X-Box, already pointed out, will lose money at the price Microsoft is intending to sell it for... But surely Microsoft will be able to fund the losses, instead of taking them from game sales, deducted from the developers slice of the pie?

I see two possibilitys here.

1) Microsoft really are that tight fisted, and are funding the X-Box's losses from taking developers money.
2) The X-Box is going to lose a lot more than we originally expected.

Even though Microsoft are the most likely candidate to make point 1 possible, surely Microsoft should be trying their best to encourage developers at this early stage? Not so long ago, Microsoft were HYPING the fact to developers that their production costs were less than the competition... this would probably bring it back up. So unless Microsoft are much more stupid than we thought, we can rule out point 1.

Which leaves point 2. And brings us back to the original point er-no made on the graphics chip... It looks like Microsoft have set their sights too high, and are going to end up crashing back down, like they did when they tried to enter the arcades all those years back.
Thu 29/03/01 at 11:39
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I am sure, that in time, the X-Box will have on-line capabilities. Give them til E3 and a big announcement should be made, but not, by the sound of things, as big as Nintendo's! The Gamecube can and probably will make history at E3, more games and more peripherals, more capabilities and more options, Nintendo have a VERY strong belief that they are the Future of Gaming, and I am not one to aregue, the Gamecube looks ace!

I don't know what Sony will have to say about the X-Box, I don't think that they will see it as such of a threat as the PS2 has been around for over a year on Japan, and the X-box could arrive there 2 years later by which time the PS2 should be about £200 in places and The Gamecube a similar price.

Microsoft have a lot to contend with but they are bringing quite a lot to the fight, I just hope that that 'a lot' is games and on-line access...

Who Knows?!
Thu 29/03/01 at 10:42
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Microsoft will lose alot of customers if they dont put in the hardware to allow the X-box to go online. Alot of PC customers only want the X-box because they want to play online and are sick of continually having to upgrade their graphics cards!

I think this move shows that Microsoft are seriously worried by the Nintendo threat!
Thu 29/03/01 at 10:38
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I've just read the whole article, and i can see microsofts point. Still, it will put a lot of people off all the same.
Thu 29/03/01 at 10:37
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Maybe i wont get one after all then.......
Thu 29/03/01 at 10:27
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Check out the SR news section for today...

Xbox will not be online until it's second year of availability. That means that, out of the box, there will be no online capability, AND no DVD capabilty.

Whoops.

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