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Saw a post today by Meka about games that have a level of realism not yet attainable.
I made some dodgy joke (as is my usual method) but it started me thinking, and I’m playing devil’s advocate here so allow me some leeway before y’all jump on my head….
Will there come a point when games are perfect reproductions of environments, graphically, aurally etc and is this a good thing?
The reason I say this is this:
I play most games because they offer something different, an escape from reality and the chance to pull off outrageous skateboard tricks/shooting matches etc that are plain impossible to do in real life.
But, with the advent of perfect graphics and AI, will the temptation be to recreate real-life situations just for the sake of it?
Like with GT3, yes it’s good but at the end of the day it’s just driving. I drive every day, to and from work and don’t really fancy the idea of a game where I drive.
Same with The Sims, I like it but went off it rapidly because I thought
“The Sims, almost real life!
A game where you create a home!
Get a job!
Get a girlfriend!
Make friends!
Get married!
Have kids!”
And then thought, hang on, I do this anyway why do I want to play a game of the past 27yrs in fast forward?
MGS2, different altogether. There aren’t that many of us that get to infiltrate ships, stuff baddies in lockers and hang from railings (well, a couple of my mates but I shall talk no more of this).
Airport Inc – Run an airport! …er….I could do that for real if I wanted to, may take some time but I can do that.
Unreal Tournament – Run about with HUGE weapons and blow people to little iddy biddy chunks of meat.
Football Games – Again, if I wanted to I could go out and play football tonight. Ok maybe not at international level, but the same game. Just more shouting and beer. And fag breaks.
My point is this:
When we are able to create lifelike scenarios, will we be swayed by games that offer us the chance to do real-life things but “oooh, it looks so lifelike”, or do we yearn for something that is just a little different and offers something that we can’t all go out and do tonight?
I made some dodgy joke (as is my usual method) but it started me thinking, and I’m playing devil’s advocate here so allow me some leeway before y’all jump on my head….
Will there come a point when games are perfect reproductions of environments, graphically, aurally etc and is this a good thing?
The reason I say this is this:
I play most games because they offer something different, an escape from reality and the chance to pull off outrageous skateboard tricks/shooting matches etc that are plain impossible to do in real life.
But, with the advent of perfect graphics and AI, will the temptation be to recreate real-life situations just for the sake of it?
Like with GT3, yes it’s good but at the end of the day it’s just driving. I drive every day, to and from work and don’t really fancy the idea of a game where I drive.
Same with The Sims, I like it but went off it rapidly because I thought
“The Sims, almost real life!
A game where you create a home!
Get a job!
Get a girlfriend!
Make friends!
Get married!
Have kids!”
And then thought, hang on, I do this anyway why do I want to play a game of the past 27yrs in fast forward?
MGS2, different altogether. There aren’t that many of us that get to infiltrate ships, stuff baddies in lockers and hang from railings (well, a couple of my mates but I shall talk no more of this).
Airport Inc – Run an airport! …er….I could do that for real if I wanted to, may take some time but I can do that.
Unreal Tournament – Run about with HUGE weapons and blow people to little iddy biddy chunks of meat.
Football Games – Again, if I wanted to I could go out and play football tonight. Ok maybe not at international level, but the same game. Just more shouting and beer. And fag breaks.
My point is this:
When we are able to create lifelike scenarios, will we be swayed by games that offer us the chance to do real-life things but “oooh, it looks so lifelike”, or do we yearn for something that is just a little different and offers something that we can’t all go out and do tonight?
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I agree with RealityMeister, Games need to be both. I would not like a game to be about going to work everyday and doing the same thing day in, day out. But, with such realistic consoles coming out, I think having a lot more 'reality' type games is inevitable. I think it would be a shame to lose games such as Banjo, Conker, MGS2 or ZOE to games like Shenmue, no matter how good it is.
Cheater.
Reality and fantasy are totally different things e.g. Zelda or the Sims. But which are more addictive? It’s hard to explain but I think fantasy games are slightly more playable and addictive. Games like shenmue and the Sims are wicked because its life and as realitymeister said you can relate to in a weird way. On the other hand it is also amazingly fun to play games that have nothing to do with real life and no one can relate to because isn’t gaming all about escaping from your hectic life and playing on something that doesn’t have squat to do with life’ problems etc.
Reality games
These are usually 3-d adventures/ shoot’em’up’s that are based in a city or sabotaging an enemies base etc, like perfect dark + shenmue. These are always good fun to play as they usually have some cool lifelike weapons e.g. machete or machine gun. These are mostly made in levels and not a 3-d environment /world like most fantasy games on the shelves at the moment but sometimes alot of levels are better than one world that you are endlessly wondering around in.
Pros:
Usually packed with awesome guns.
· Has quite a few levels too blast or punch your way through
· Very lifelike and detailed graphics especially on the peoples faces
· Usually decent multiplayer, take golden eye for instance.
· The sound is mint on some shooters.
Cons:
· Not always big or a lot of levels to explore.
· Usually no funny graphics like the Zelda titles.
Fantasy games
I love these games and if you love em too then get an n64 now and if you have one buy: Zelda’s 1 + 2, banjo kazooie and tooie. These games are usually fun but slightly meant for kids at the same time. This could have been where the Nintendo 64 went wrong as the games (apart from conker!) were not always pleasing to the older gamers. The final fantasy series offer a very complicated plot to them with lots of little towns and a world map to wonder around. But the ff series is an action/rpg and but still a fantasy game, hence the name, but most of you will know why it is called that anyway. But what is the difference between the Zelda titles and the ff’s? And which is more addictive? But they are still fun to play and are never short of mini games and puzzles to go on top of the fun packed world already there. On the down side not many if any fantasy games have a multiplayer and that could be where the realistic games pull ahead as a good gory blaster with a vs. mode is pretty cool, and I have to say the realistic games are my favs but only by a bit.
Pros:
· Mostly come in big environments
· Packed with extras
· Usually a lot to explore
Cons:
· Sound isn’t always up to scratch
· Not usually a multiplayer
Anyway I still cant decide which is better but soon the fantasy games will be replaced as the shoot’em’up’s and reality games are getting a boost as the graphics are enhancing and they are just in more demand. So what would you choose if you were on a desert island a cool Zelda game or a realistic game like shenmue to keep you busy it’s a hard decision but everyone has there tastes.
So you decide what is better, both are good and fun for everyone.
APOC STYLE!!!
Reality games
These are usually 3-d adventures/ shoot’em’up’s that are based in a city or sabotaging an enemies base etc, like perfect dark + shenmue. These are always good fun to play as they usually have some cool lifelike weapons e.g. machete or machine gun. These are mostly made in levels and not a 3-d environment /world like most fantasy games on the shelves at the moment but sometimes alot of levels are better than one world that you are endlessly wondering around in.
Pros:
Usually packed with awesome guns.
· Has quite a few levels too blast or punch your way through
· Very lifelike and detailed graphics especially on the peoples faces
· Usually decent multiplayer, take golden eye for instance.
· The sound is mint on some shooters.
Cons:
· Not always big or a lot of levels to explore.
· Usually no funny graphics like the Zelda titles.
Fantasy games
I love these games and if you love em too then get an n64 now and if you have one buy: Zelda’s 1 + 2, banjo kazooie and tooie. These games are usually fun but slightly meant for kids at the same time. This could have been where the Nintendo 64 went wrong as the games (apart from conker!) were not always pleasing to the older gamers. The final fantasy series offer a very complicated plot to them with lots of little towns and a world map to wonder around. But the ff series is an action/rpg and but still a fantasy game, hence the name, but most of you will know why it is called that anyway. But what is the difference between the Zelda titles and the ff’s? And which is more addictive? But they are still fun to play and are never short of mini games and puzzles to go on top of the fun packed world already there. On the down side not many if any fantasy games have a multiplayer and that could be where the realistic games pull ahead as a good gory blaster with a vs. mode is pretty cool, and I have to say the realistic games are my favs but only by a bit.
Pros:
· Mostly come in big environments
· Packed with extras
· Usually a lot to explore
Cons:
· Sound isn’t always up to scratch
· Not usually a multiplayer
Anyway I still cant decide which is better but soon the fantasy games will be replaced as the shoot’em’up’s and reality games are getting a boost as the graphics are enhancing and they are just in more demand. So what would you choose if you were on a desert island a cool Zelda game or a realistic game like shenmue to keep you busy it’s a hard decision but everyone has there tastes.
So you decide what is better, both are good and fun for everyone.
APOC STYLE!!!
I always thought that superheros were spot on with the mix of the two, they were kind of reality in the fact that Superman, for example, was half human, (Clark Kent) and fantasy in the way that they had special powers, I think that more super hero games should be made. Superman 64 wasn't QUITE the 90%-er that it could have been...(:D) BUT if more time and thinking is put into the games then we should see some great games...did you know there is a Superman scheduled for Gamecube release!!! TRUE!
Anyhoo, I still prefer reality, but fantasy is kinda special, but reality is something I can relate to! But fantasy has some great games to show, Banjo, Conker MGS2...mind you MGS2 might be a bit of reality, those sort of things do happen and more that Banjo-Type things....!!!
The Game: Talking Crap since Feb 2001
This site has corrupted my mind.
Anyhoo, I still prefer reality, but fantasy is kinda special, but reality is something I can relate to! But fantasy has some great games to show, Banjo, Conker MGS2...mind you MGS2 might be a bit of reality, those sort of things do happen and more that Banjo-Type things....!!!
The Game: Talking Crap since Feb 2001
This site has corrupted my mind.
Funny har har.
I think that Reality is much better than fantasy. I know that without fantasy we couldn't have games like Banjo, Coner, MGS2, ZOE, but reality is something that we can relate to alot easier. Shenmue for example is something that, although we haven't experienced, we can relate to, it happens, we know it happens and there isn't much we can do about it happening.
In reality, both have their stong points, but being a secret missions expert like Snake Solid (likely) will always attract more attention that a Bear giving a Breegull a piggy-back ride (somewhat unlikely!)
But there are also certain levels of reality, there is The Sims, (very true to life) and Goldeneye (Not quite as believeable) So there is a thin line between the two!
I prefer Reality, but I don't think I could cope without super games like Conker, Banjo, Rayman and Timesplitters.
The Game
In reality, both have their stong points, but being a secret missions expert like Snake Solid (likely) will always attract more attention that a Bear giving a Breegull a piggy-back ride (somewhat unlikely!)
But there are also certain levels of reality, there is The Sims, (very true to life) and Goldeneye (Not quite as believeable) So there is a thin line between the two!
I prefer Reality, but I don't think I could cope without super games like Conker, Banjo, Rayman and Timesplitters.
The Game
Goatboy wrote:
...But, with the advent of perfect graphics and AI, will the temptation be to recreate real-life situations just for the sake of it?
In reply:
There may one day come a point where videogames become ultra realistic, but this wont make them any less playable because they will never be real life.
These new games will break down barriers like never before, you could explore Africa, visit New York become a criminal in the streets of London anything you want just to try it out (and cheaper and less risky than actually doing these things). As long as there isnt a game produced that models your life the pull of games will remain. Personally I waiting for the Boyfriend of Britney Spears game, mmmm!
...But, with the advent of perfect graphics and AI, will the temptation be to recreate real-life situations just for the sake of it?
In reply:
There may one day come a point where videogames become ultra realistic, but this wont make them any less playable because they will never be real life.
These new games will break down barriers like never before, you could explore Africa, visit New York become a criminal in the streets of London anything you want just to try it out (and cheaper and less risky than actually doing these things). As long as there isnt a game produced that models your life the pull of games will remain. Personally I waiting for the Boyfriend of Britney Spears game, mmmm!
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