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Why is that cat brown?
What is wrong with you?
How are you feeling?
Is that a frown?
Who? What? Where?
Why? Can't I?
Go away.
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I'd pay to read the posts of anyone who can find meaning in that or at least appreciate it in any way shape or form.
Why is that cat brown?
What is wrong with you?
How are you feeling?
Is that a frown?
Who? What? Where?
Why? Can't I?
Go away.
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I'd pay to read the posts of anyone who can find meaning in that or at least appreciate it in any way shape or form.
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Anyway I have to get up at 7:30am so I'm going to be now. I've already stayed up to long. Cubist V.2 = Signed Out
Cubist V.2 wrote:
> Do you know how many times in history evidence has been presented as
> fact and years or sometimes even months later the facts have been
> changed or altered?
Well, it's never happened because by definition facts cannot be altered. A fact is something that is true.
> We are all blind to the truth except the truth
> that is shoved in front of us from the corrupt governments of the
> world
Who said my evidence came from government sources?
> Sometimes you have to go with your gut and draw your own conclusions
> which I did.
Unfortunately those times very rarely occur and this is not one of them. You're saying that your opinion based on no evidence is better than an opinion based on lots of evidence because "sometimes you have to go with your gut"? That's just rubbish.
Not only was it your opinion that I disagreed with, but your manner and attitude on the subject. You didn't say "Yes, I appreciate that there is no link found yet, and there's evidence against it, but I have a feeling it was the Iraqis. I can't back this up, it's just a gut feeling."
What you said was: "The Iraqis knocked down the Twin Towers so we should level their cities." You proposed that we go and kill millions of innocent citizens based on your gut. What kind of a lunatic are you?
> Do you know how many times in history evidence has been presented as
> fact and years or sometimes even months later the facts have been
> changed or altered?
Well, it's never happened because by definition facts cannot be altered. A fact is something that is true.
> We are all blind to the truth except the truth
> that is shoved in front of us from the corrupt governments of the
> world
Who said my evidence came from government sources?
> Sometimes you have to go with your gut and draw your own conclusions
> which I did.
Unfortunately those times very rarely occur and this is not one of them. You're saying that your opinion based on no evidence is better than an opinion based on lots of evidence because "sometimes you have to go with your gut"? That's just rubbish.
Not only was it your opinion that I disagreed with, but your manner and attitude on the subject. You didn't say "Yes, I appreciate that there is no link found yet, and there's evidence against it, but I have a feeling it was the Iraqis. I can't back this up, it's just a gut feeling."
What you said was: "The Iraqis knocked down the Twin Towers so we should level their cities." You proposed that we go and kill millions of innocent citizens based on your gut. What kind of a lunatic are you?
Blank wrote:
> Cubist V.2 wrote:
> I said I respected people for who they are and the choices they make
>
>
> it doesn't matter whether or not I agree with their actions
>
>
> Ahem. Actions aren't choices, then?
I never said actions weren't choices only that whether their actions are good or bad, whether I agree with them or not I respect whatever they have chosen to do.
> Cubist V.2 wrote:
> I said I respected people for who they are and the choices they make
>
>
> it doesn't matter whether or not I agree with their actions
>
>
> Ahem. Actions aren't choices, then?
I never said actions weren't choices only that whether their actions are good or bad, whether I agree with them or not I respect whatever they have chosen to do.
Do you know how many times in history evidence has been presented as fact and years or sometimes even months later the facts have been changed or altered? We are all blind to the truth except the truth that is shoved in front of us from the corrupt governments of the world and I do not respect people who base their entire arguments on that when in reality you have no idea just how true that is. Sometimes you have to go with your gut and draw your own conclusions which I did.
Cubist V.2 wrote:
> I said I respected people for who they are and the choices they make
> it doesn't matter whether or not I agree with their actions
Ahem. Actions aren't choices, then?
> I said I respected people for who they are and the choices they make
> it doesn't matter whether or not I agree with their actions
Ahem. Actions aren't choices, then?
There is no contradiction. You are saying that because I said I respected people for who they are and the choices they make that if they make a choice I disagree with then I wouldn't respect them? That has no relevance though because if I truly respect them then it doesn't matter whether or not I agree with their actions or who they are. They could be a horrible person and do horrible things but I respect their choices and if they want to be like that then that's fine by me. I'd respect them for the good or horrible people that they are. You on the other hand say you wouldn't give people respect when you met them but that implies that if they do anything you disagree with you'll not respect them for what they have chosen to do and that in itself is disrespectful.
Cubist V.2 wrote:
> I am glad you admit to it and am glad you are going to back down
> however I still think my comments were acceptable. You may not agree
> but with all the corruption and so on within the governments around
> the world who's to say what is and is not fact. I was going on what
> my gut tells me and although that may not be the best approach I
> think you should respect my opinion. Can you respect someone enough
> to do that? Without starting up the argument again? Can you? I
> respect your opinion on that matter and never want to talk of it
> again
No, I cannot respect your opinion because it's baseless. If you'd looked at the evidence and come to a rational conclusion, then I'd respect you. Which is why I respect Light, Goatboy, unknown kernel and loads of others who regularly post in this sub-forum.
You "went with your gut" - which is fair enough, we cannot help but form opinions and conclusions in our mind. But when people are showing evidence to you left, right and centre that proves otherwise, and you don't even consider for one moment that you might be wrong? That's just stubborn, pathetic and childish. And a way of thinking that I do not respect.
> I am glad you admit to it and am glad you are going to back down
> however I still think my comments were acceptable. You may not agree
> but with all the corruption and so on within the governments around
> the world who's to say what is and is not fact. I was going on what
> my gut tells me and although that may not be the best approach I
> think you should respect my opinion. Can you respect someone enough
> to do that? Without starting up the argument again? Can you? I
> respect your opinion on that matter and never want to talk of it
> again
No, I cannot respect your opinion because it's baseless. If you'd looked at the evidence and come to a rational conclusion, then I'd respect you. Which is why I respect Light, Goatboy, unknown kernel and loads of others who regularly post in this sub-forum.
You "went with your gut" - which is fair enough, we cannot help but form opinions and conclusions in our mind. But when people are showing evidence to you left, right and centre that proves otherwise, and you don't even consider for one moment that you might be wrong? That's just stubborn, pathetic and childish. And a way of thinking that I do not respect.
Cubist, I said "exactly" because I meant exactly. EXACTLY. I have never said certain things need to be done, you've conjured that up. I've merely said that respect is earned through thoughts, beliefs and actions etc. I did not say that they had to do X, Y and Z to gain my respect. it could be anything. Someone does something and you can respect them for it. And you said that you respect people for who they are and the choices they make - which is EXACTLY (say it with me) what my point is.
Who they are, and the choices they make.
Not unconditionally, but for who they are and the choices they make. Who they are? Doesn't that equate to thoughts and beliefs? The choices they make? You mean like.....their actions? It's exactly my point.
And yet, earlier, you said that respect should be given to everyone. And now you're implying that if someone makes a certain choice, you may not respect them.
I was going to move onto something else, but I'll stop here to let you think about what I've just said. Hopefully you'll realise your contradiction within 2004.
Who they are, and the choices they make.
Not unconditionally, but for who they are and the choices they make. Who they are? Doesn't that equate to thoughts and beliefs? The choices they make? You mean like.....their actions? It's exactly my point.
And yet, earlier, you said that respect should be given to everyone. And now you're implying that if someone makes a certain choice, you may not respect them.
I was going to move onto something else, but I'll stop here to let you think about what I've just said. Hopefully you'll realise your contradiction within 2004.
Blank wrote:
> On the issue of me hounding you...well, I'm prepared to back down
> over that. I have been unfairly harsh to you. I'm sorry. But don't
> forget what started this all off in the first place: your comments on
> Iraq/ September 11th were unfounded, unreasoned, unjustified, and
> downright stupid.
I am glad you admit to it and am glad you are going to back down however I still think my comments were acceptable. You may not agree but with all the corruption and so on within the governments around the world who's to say what is and is not fact. I was going on what my gut tells me and although that may not be the best approach I think you should respect my opinion. Can you respect someone enough to do that? Without starting up the argument again? Can you? I respect your opinion on that matter and never want to talk of it again
> On the issue of me hounding you...well, I'm prepared to back down
> over that. I have been unfairly harsh to you. I'm sorry. But don't
> forget what started this all off in the first place: your comments on
> Iraq/ September 11th were unfounded, unreasoned, unjustified, and
> downright stupid.
I am glad you admit to it and am glad you are going to back down however I still think my comments were acceptable. You may not agree but with all the corruption and so on within the governments around the world who's to say what is and is not fact. I was going on what my gut tells me and although that may not be the best approach I think you should respect my opinion. Can you respect someone enough to do that? Without starting up the argument again? Can you? I respect your opinion on that matter and never want to talk of it again
Blank wrote:
> Exactly: for who they are and the choices they make! Not blindly, as
> you've said! But on the basis of thoughts, beliefs and actions, as
> I've said! Thanks for changing your mind!
I would also like to point out that although you say "Exactly" there you have not once said that through the entire conversation. You have structured your entire argument around people having to earn respect for doing certain things which I disagree with.
> Exactly: for who they are and the choices they make! Not blindly, as
> you've said! But on the basis of thoughts, beliefs and actions, as
> I've said! Thanks for changing your mind!
I would also like to point out that although you say "Exactly" there you have not once said that through the entire conversation. You have structured your entire argument around people having to earn respect for doing certain things which I disagree with.
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