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This post will be a list of questions with a few things stuck on here and there with double-sided sticky tape to bulk it out a bit.
So it’s a nice simple thread really. The police, what are your views on them, what do you all perceive the job of a police officer to encompass? What experiences and or dealings have you had with them and how have they left you feeling? But I would also like to know what your perceptions are on the different reactions the police receive from the public and any reasons for them.
I am very young in my service and have really only had a minuet taster of all things baton and cuff orientated. Before joining, during the whole application and indeed parts of the actual training I was as ignorant and blind to what the job really is, like most of the general public. I thought the job of a policeman was to be out there protecting the public and catching the bad guys. Having been in for half a year now, I can tell you this is our job, but only a part of it.
I can’t talk for every force, because each is different in the way that they operate due to the fact that they each have their own issues to tackle, but our force as a very proactive force. Of course we still have to be reactive, reacting to whatever the baddies get up to each day, but we also operate in a highly visible manner. Whenever we can we are out patrolling the streets in our incredibly stylish hi-vis jackets, (we’re not all fat by the way, it’s body amour under there). This part of policing I enjoy, I walk the city centre talking to the public, which can be very satisfying as some of the public will talk to you and tell you how nice it is to see the police out and about. I’m a friendly policeman, I will give you directions if you ask me nicely, I will even have my picture taken with you and talk about your cat if you so wish, it’s called building community relations.
However there are of course certain members of the public that no matter how polite you are to them, and despite the fact that you’re trying to help them will treat you like crap. I’m just wondering what mindset it is that causes this level of hatred and animosity towards the police? It’s not all down to previous dealings; some of this is just in-built for seemingly no reason.
Some guy parking in a disabled bay because he doesn’t want to pay for parking or walk from the car park. Politely pointing the offence out to him and telling him that he could be liable for a £30 ticket if he leaves his car there but that I wouldn’t give him one if he would move it, only to be greeted by, “oh for Gods sake, don’t you have anything better to do?”
Another time with the same situation the lady simply said it was because she had, had an operation on her leg so can’t walk far and she just needed to return an ironing board to a shop. She apologised and even said she would accept a ticket. A reasonable person giving me a reasonable reason, so I even offered to carry the item for her.
What causes the different levels of respect shown towards the uniform?
It just amazes me sometimes. One drunk trying to climb into his own shoe in a shop doorway will show you nothing but respect when you enquire about his welfare, another will tell you to “fark orf!” saying, “do you know who my dad is?” No sir, I don’t, have you tried asking your mother?
I’m rambling a little now, so I will stop and let you get on with answering my questions as best as you can.
“I pay your wages!”
Really sir, can I have a raise then please.
So it’s a nice simple thread really. The police, what are your views on them, what do you all perceive the job of a police officer to encompass? What experiences and or dealings have you had with them and how have they left you feeling? But I would also like to know what your perceptions are on the different reactions the police receive from the public and any reasons for them.
I am very young in my service and have really only had a minuet taster of all things baton and cuff orientated. Before joining, during the whole application and indeed parts of the actual training I was as ignorant and blind to what the job really is, like most of the general public. I thought the job of a policeman was to be out there protecting the public and catching the bad guys. Having been in for half a year now, I can tell you this is our job, but only a part of it.
I can’t talk for every force, because each is different in the way that they operate due to the fact that they each have their own issues to tackle, but our force as a very proactive force. Of course we still have to be reactive, reacting to whatever the baddies get up to each day, but we also operate in a highly visible manner. Whenever we can we are out patrolling the streets in our incredibly stylish hi-vis jackets, (we’re not all fat by the way, it’s body amour under there). This part of policing I enjoy, I walk the city centre talking to the public, which can be very satisfying as some of the public will talk to you and tell you how nice it is to see the police out and about. I’m a friendly policeman, I will give you directions if you ask me nicely, I will even have my picture taken with you and talk about your cat if you so wish, it’s called building community relations.
However there are of course certain members of the public that no matter how polite you are to them, and despite the fact that you’re trying to help them will treat you like crap. I’m just wondering what mindset it is that causes this level of hatred and animosity towards the police? It’s not all down to previous dealings; some of this is just in-built for seemingly no reason.
Some guy parking in a disabled bay because he doesn’t want to pay for parking or walk from the car park. Politely pointing the offence out to him and telling him that he could be liable for a £30 ticket if he leaves his car there but that I wouldn’t give him one if he would move it, only to be greeted by, “oh for Gods sake, don’t you have anything better to do?”
Another time with the same situation the lady simply said it was because she had, had an operation on her leg so can’t walk far and she just needed to return an ironing board to a shop. She apologised and even said she would accept a ticket. A reasonable person giving me a reasonable reason, so I even offered to carry the item for her.
What causes the different levels of respect shown towards the uniform?
It just amazes me sometimes. One drunk trying to climb into his own shoe in a shop doorway will show you nothing but respect when you enquire about his welfare, another will tell you to “fark orf!” saying, “do you know who my dad is?” No sir, I don’t, have you tried asking your mother?
I’m rambling a little now, so I will stop and let you get on with answering my questions as best as you can.
“I pay your wages!”
Really sir, can I have a raise then please.
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Oh, go on then.
I wasn't going to tell you to shut up, I was going to complain about how crap the police are and then commence to sit on my ass and argue about how valid my complaints are.
To post here.
And don't say "Well keep your mouth shut then"; all my points have been true so far. Let me quote:
English_Bloke wrote:
> gamezfreak wrote:
>
> I'm no man to question the force of the police though, I have no
> idea
> how the force operates, it's probably a lot clearer when you've had
> the training.
>
> Don't think that for a second. I have no idea what's going on. Not
> just with the police, but in general.
Now, it's not very convincing is it, after training and having no idea to how the police operates? In many professions, not only are your skills for a particular job required, but also background knowledge of the bigger picture i.e. how the industry, or in this case, the police "community", operates.
And don't say "Well keep your mouth shut then"; all my points have been true so far. Let me quote:
English_Bloke wrote:
> gamezfreak wrote:
>
> I'm no man to question the force of the police though, I have no
> idea
> how the force operates, it's probably a lot clearer when you've had
> the training.
>
> Don't think that for a second. I have no idea what's going on. Not
> just with the police, but in general.
Now, it's not very convincing is it, after training and having no idea to how the police operates? In many professions, not only are your skills for a particular job required, but also background knowledge of the bigger picture i.e. how the industry, or in this case, the police "community", operates.
Oh, thats okay then. What is your job?
Not my job.
You're just the man then Icarus.
Off you go.
Off you go.
That's just great isn't it. Our only interaction with security for this country is, in fact, a group of guys and gals who have no idea what their business is. Bl00dy great.
gamezfreak wrote:
> I know what you was saying EB, just can't be bothered to quote the
> post, yes it's good that they captured a high profile criminal just
> by doing a 10 min pull over check, but still it just seemed rather
> unessacery at the time,
It was you, wasn't it?
> I'm no man to question the force of the police though, I have no idea
> how the force operates, it's probably a lot clearer when you've had
> the training.
Don't think that for a second. I have no idea what's going on. Not just with the police, but in general.
> I know what you was saying EB, just can't be bothered to quote the
> post, yes it's good that they captured a high profile criminal just
> by doing a 10 min pull over check, but still it just seemed rather
> unessacery at the time,
It was you, wasn't it?
> I'm no man to question the force of the police though, I have no idea
> how the force operates, it's probably a lot clearer when you've had
> the training.
Don't think that for a second. I have no idea what's going on. Not just with the police, but in general.
I know what you was saying EB, just can't be bothered to quote the post, yes it's good that they captured a high profile criminal just by doing a 10 min pull over check, but still it just seemed rather unessacery at the time, the police stopped the car on the grounds of his number plate being illegal, they was there for a good 20 - 30 minutes standing in front of the car to take down car details/driver details etc before they'd let him go.
Surely in that 30 minutes a more serious crime might of occured that needed immediate law assistance?
I'm no man to question the force of the police though, I have no idea how the force operates, it's probably a lot clearer when you've had the training.
Surely in that 30 minutes a more serious crime might of occured that needed immediate law assistance?
I'm no man to question the force of the police though, I have no idea how the force operates, it's probably a lot clearer when you've had the training.
I thought it would be funny to pretend to be a pusher when I first met one of my girlfriend's friends. I was waiting for them to come along, and when they got near I stood up and said "Want any crack?". Needless to say, hilarity ensued and she didn't think I was weirdo from then on...
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