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This post will be a list of questions with a few things stuck on here and there with double-sided sticky tape to bulk it out a bit.
So it’s a nice simple thread really. The police, what are your views on them, what do you all perceive the job of a police officer to encompass? What experiences and or dealings have you had with them and how have they left you feeling? But I would also like to know what your perceptions are on the different reactions the police receive from the public and any reasons for them.
I am very young in my service and have really only had a minuet taster of all things baton and cuff orientated. Before joining, during the whole application and indeed parts of the actual training I was as ignorant and blind to what the job really is, like most of the general public. I thought the job of a policeman was to be out there protecting the public and catching the bad guys. Having been in for half a year now, I can tell you this is our job, but only a part of it.
I can’t talk for every force, because each is different in the way that they operate due to the fact that they each have their own issues to tackle, but our force as a very proactive force. Of course we still have to be reactive, reacting to whatever the baddies get up to each day, but we also operate in a highly visible manner. Whenever we can we are out patrolling the streets in our incredibly stylish hi-vis jackets, (we’re not all fat by the way, it’s body amour under there). This part of policing I enjoy, I walk the city centre talking to the public, which can be very satisfying as some of the public will talk to you and tell you how nice it is to see the police out and about. I’m a friendly policeman, I will give you directions if you ask me nicely, I will even have my picture taken with you and talk about your cat if you so wish, it’s called building community relations.
However there are of course certain members of the public that no matter how polite you are to them, and despite the fact that you’re trying to help them will treat you like crap. I’m just wondering what mindset it is that causes this level of hatred and animosity towards the police? It’s not all down to previous dealings; some of this is just in-built for seemingly no reason.
Some guy parking in a disabled bay because he doesn’t want to pay for parking or walk from the car park. Politely pointing the offence out to him and telling him that he could be liable for a £30 ticket if he leaves his car there but that I wouldn’t give him one if he would move it, only to be greeted by, “oh for Gods sake, don’t you have anything better to do?”
Another time with the same situation the lady simply said it was because she had, had an operation on her leg so can’t walk far and she just needed to return an ironing board to a shop. She apologised and even said she would accept a ticket. A reasonable person giving me a reasonable reason, so I even offered to carry the item for her.
What causes the different levels of respect shown towards the uniform?
It just amazes me sometimes. One drunk trying to climb into his own shoe in a shop doorway will show you nothing but respect when you enquire about his welfare, another will tell you to “fark orf!” saying, “do you know who my dad is?” No sir, I don’t, have you tried asking your mother?
I’m rambling a little now, so I will stop and let you get on with answering my questions as best as you can.
“I pay your wages!”
Really sir, can I have a raise then please.
So it’s a nice simple thread really. The police, what are your views on them, what do you all perceive the job of a police officer to encompass? What experiences and or dealings have you had with them and how have they left you feeling? But I would also like to know what your perceptions are on the different reactions the police receive from the public and any reasons for them.
I am very young in my service and have really only had a minuet taster of all things baton and cuff orientated. Before joining, during the whole application and indeed parts of the actual training I was as ignorant and blind to what the job really is, like most of the general public. I thought the job of a policeman was to be out there protecting the public and catching the bad guys. Having been in for half a year now, I can tell you this is our job, but only a part of it.
I can’t talk for every force, because each is different in the way that they operate due to the fact that they each have their own issues to tackle, but our force as a very proactive force. Of course we still have to be reactive, reacting to whatever the baddies get up to each day, but we also operate in a highly visible manner. Whenever we can we are out patrolling the streets in our incredibly stylish hi-vis jackets, (we’re not all fat by the way, it’s body amour under there). This part of policing I enjoy, I walk the city centre talking to the public, which can be very satisfying as some of the public will talk to you and tell you how nice it is to see the police out and about. I’m a friendly policeman, I will give you directions if you ask me nicely, I will even have my picture taken with you and talk about your cat if you so wish, it’s called building community relations.
However there are of course certain members of the public that no matter how polite you are to them, and despite the fact that you’re trying to help them will treat you like crap. I’m just wondering what mindset it is that causes this level of hatred and animosity towards the police? It’s not all down to previous dealings; some of this is just in-built for seemingly no reason.
Some guy parking in a disabled bay because he doesn’t want to pay for parking or walk from the car park. Politely pointing the offence out to him and telling him that he could be liable for a £30 ticket if he leaves his car there but that I wouldn’t give him one if he would move it, only to be greeted by, “oh for Gods sake, don’t you have anything better to do?”
Another time with the same situation the lady simply said it was because she had, had an operation on her leg so can’t walk far and she just needed to return an ironing board to a shop. She apologised and even said she would accept a ticket. A reasonable person giving me a reasonable reason, so I even offered to carry the item for her.
What causes the different levels of respect shown towards the uniform?
It just amazes me sometimes. One drunk trying to climb into his own shoe in a shop doorway will show you nothing but respect when you enquire about his welfare, another will tell you to “fark orf!” saying, “do you know who my dad is?” No sir, I don’t, have you tried asking your mother?
I’m rambling a little now, so I will stop and let you get on with answering my questions as best as you can.
“I pay your wages!”
Really sir, can I have a raise then please.
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Overall, I'd say they do a good job. But because they're in a position of such power and responsibility, it makes it very serious, and frustrating, when they're incompetent, dishonest or disrespectful.
So when they do seriously screw up, I think it's understandable that people react very strongly.
Only human, yes, but while you can stomach some mistakes, when their attitude doesn't live up to what you expect from the police, or they screw up really badly, it's a problem.
Also, the petti focus on political correctness in any state body is undesirable, but when you hear about police wasting time and resources over it, instead of 'proper' work, again, it's especially frustrating.
By the sounds of things you've got the attitude down well though. Keep up the good work.
'Have you tried asking your mum?' Excellent :^)
So when they do seriously screw up, I think it's understandable that people react very strongly.
Only human, yes, but while you can stomach some mistakes, when their attitude doesn't live up to what you expect from the police, or they screw up really badly, it's a problem.
Also, the petti focus on political correctness in any state body is undesirable, but when you hear about police wasting time and resources over it, instead of 'proper' work, again, it's especially frustrating.
By the sounds of things you've got the attitude down well though. Keep up the good work.
'Have you tried asking your mum?' Excellent :^)
I like the police. I have only ever had two experiences with them and on both accounts I had not done anything wrong or been accused of doing anything wrong before you ask.
I think the reasons I like the force are that firstly it takes a different kind of person to be a member of it. I mean you have to pass fitness training, exams and so on all of which most people simply wouldn't do. They'd do their highers (A-Levels), go to uni and go into a job with those qualifications where they are unlikely to stay in shape but they get paid more money half the time, that's not right, hmph. I think you have to be a pretty ok guy/gal to join the force on those reasons alone. You are defying convention in a way.
I can see why people would say things like "Don't you have anything better to do?" though. You said yourself you had misconceptions from the media that the police work was all about going out and catching the baddies. Well the people who say that, well they probably have the same misconceptions thinking you should be away working on some murder case back at the station. Which you must admit pales in comparison. I do believe that these laws are there for a reason though and that all police men are right to take all breakings of the law including trivial ones relatively seriously as you seem to E_B. I think it's all part of the job when you get down to it. Being on the force isn't about making friends with everyone. Some people just wont like you and it'll take a long time of extensive public relations work to change some peoples opinions.
As for all cops eventually becoming corrupt I think that's utter crap too. Become podgy around the mid section maybe but not corrupt. Sure they may twist the law every now and again but then again they are just people too. I'm sure some of you have twisted the rules at your work every now and again from stealing pens from the storage cupboard when noones looking to slipping yourself a drink when you're supposed to be doing bar work. Yes they may twist the rules every now and again but can you blame them?
I think the reasons I like the force are that firstly it takes a different kind of person to be a member of it. I mean you have to pass fitness training, exams and so on all of which most people simply wouldn't do. They'd do their highers (A-Levels), go to uni and go into a job with those qualifications where they are unlikely to stay in shape but they get paid more money half the time, that's not right, hmph. I think you have to be a pretty ok guy/gal to join the force on those reasons alone. You are defying convention in a way.
I can see why people would say things like "Don't you have anything better to do?" though. You said yourself you had misconceptions from the media that the police work was all about going out and catching the baddies. Well the people who say that, well they probably have the same misconceptions thinking you should be away working on some murder case back at the station. Which you must admit pales in comparison. I do believe that these laws are there for a reason though and that all police men are right to take all breakings of the law including trivial ones relatively seriously as you seem to E_B. I think it's all part of the job when you get down to it. Being on the force isn't about making friends with everyone. Some people just wont like you and it'll take a long time of extensive public relations work to change some peoples opinions.
As for all cops eventually becoming corrupt I think that's utter crap too. Become podgy around the mid section maybe but not corrupt. Sure they may twist the law every now and again but then again they are just people too. I'm sure some of you have twisted the rules at your work every now and again from stealing pens from the storage cupboard when noones looking to slipping yourself a drink when you're supposed to be doing bar work. Yes they may twist the rules every now and again but can you blame them?
Mr Snuggly wrote:
> I am t'law
>
> (northern version)
I hope you understand you're going to have a bunch of irate farmers with pitchforms are flat caps chasing you around Essex. "We're gunna get t'snuggly, stupid b*gger mekkin us sound dead daft."
> I am t'law
>
> (northern version)
I hope you understand you're going to have a bunch of irate farmers with pitchforms are flat caps chasing you around Essex. "We're gunna get t'snuggly, stupid b*gger mekkin us sound dead daft."
bread n dripping fer tea ah mutha?
I am t'law
(northern version)
(northern version)
I always preferred judge dredd
The problem I have with the police is a that they are human. Therefore, regardless of how much they may try to act without discrimination of any kind, their personal views and opinions will inevitably worm their way iinto their work. Further, policing is a career, a career that adheres to a system, and it is inevitable that many police employees will act more to further their careers than to bring about justice.
I look forward to the days of batman and his army of law-enforcing droids.
I look forward to the days of batman and his army of law-enforcing droids.
I think that in my own opinion we would be screwed without the police and not so many people stop to think of it.
The other day at work a bunch of men were standing around saying how all coppers have an authority complex and do nothing. there a waste of space and hate all coppers.
I am only young and luckily have had not much contact with the police but as far as i can see... yes a heck of alot of things happen that are sick and nothing is done about. Loved ones beaten up and nothing is done, a CHILD of 12 years old was racialy attacked while a year eleven girl laughed and beat him over the head with a shoe. the police were involved and did nothing due to 'lack of evidence' werent the stitches on his head enough and the fifty kids on the bus solid witnesses???
These things make me irrate as surely something can be done. BUT I think that if you put your self in the shoes of a copper. What there working day consists of, the responsibilty, the dangerous aspects... there working day is alot more dangerous and hard then most of ours. I know that alot of the time police seem useless but im sure it isnt always as cut and dried as it seems. Police od alot of good too and without them we would be screwed.
We need the police - who else would turn up and tell a mother that their son was found hanging from a park tree? Who else would try to run and stop a criminal with a weapon? There job is a hard one and they do alot of good. But for the minuet few who screw up or when things dont go our way always alot of us build some comlex about them and work against instead of with them
way to help society!
... my view
The other day at work a bunch of men were standing around saying how all coppers have an authority complex and do nothing. there a waste of space and hate all coppers.
I am only young and luckily have had not much contact with the police but as far as i can see... yes a heck of alot of things happen that are sick and nothing is done about. Loved ones beaten up and nothing is done, a CHILD of 12 years old was racialy attacked while a year eleven girl laughed and beat him over the head with a shoe. the police were involved and did nothing due to 'lack of evidence' werent the stitches on his head enough and the fifty kids on the bus solid witnesses???
These things make me irrate as surely something can be done. BUT I think that if you put your self in the shoes of a copper. What there working day consists of, the responsibilty, the dangerous aspects... there working day is alot more dangerous and hard then most of ours. I know that alot of the time police seem useless but im sure it isnt always as cut and dried as it seems. Police od alot of good too and without them we would be screwed.
We need the police - who else would turn up and tell a mother that their son was found hanging from a park tree? Who else would try to run and stop a criminal with a weapon? There job is a hard one and they do alot of good. But for the minuet few who screw up or when things dont go our way always alot of us build some comlex about them and work against instead of with them
way to help society!
... my view
Being from Yorkshire we don't have a police force as such, just irate farmers in uniforms weilding tear gas. If you don't buy their corn, or make lewd comments about their scarecrows looking like Michael Jackson they will chase you with their pitchforks and yell "Why you bedder get back here boy!"
Where I live (Northern Ireland) about 90% of people either hate the Police or have no respect for them. Firstly, if you are a Catholic here you will dislike them almost immediately, the Nationilst community has suffered alot at the hands of corrupt cops. The Protestants don't like them either, first because they always interrupt that damn Drumcree and secondly because they pick on the general public as criminals. An old man down my road was beat to death. There were two witnesses but no one was caught. Also, in Banbridge, a man was beat to death by four people with spades in a housing estate at 3am in the morning, New years Day. People were caught, but no one charged. A friend of the family was charged £40 for littering when he threw the sticker off an apple out his window. Another was breathalysed and hauled down to the station for 3 hours and treated like s**t, then released because his mouth spray was repsosnible for the botched brethalyser recording. He didn't even get an apology and was told he was "lucky".
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