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Wed 21/01/04 at 22:12
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Well, the drug is being (or has been) downgraded to class C. What does this mean? The government are keen to point out that it is still illegal, that those in possession will still be arrested.

On the news tonight, they used the phrase "Cannabis, a drug tens of thousands of people choose to smoke each week". I think they are seriously underestimating how widespread its use is. I wager everyone on here knows somebody who smokes it, I certainly do. Could decriminalizing the drug work in this country? There are huge benefits for the government in the way that it would free up a lot of police time, which could be used for catching those dealing/possessing harder drugs.

Is there any point whatsoever in downgrading the drug as they have done?

Do you have any views on the drug, or the questions I have asked above?
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Thu 22/01/04 at 21:52
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RoJ wrote:
> I hate police for certain reasons which I'm not going to go into,

Funny you should say that, I'm going to write a thread soon about people's views on the police. You will be able to "vent" in there.

> but I still have a lot of respect for you, even though you're a cop.

Thanks.
Thu 22/01/04 at 21:50
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English_Bloke wrote:
> I hate cannabis for certain reason of which I'm not going to go into
> and I have lost a bit of respect for some people within this thread.


I hate police for certain reasons which I'm not going to go into, but I still have a lot of respect for you, even though you're a cop. Crappy comparison, but what'd you expect from a pot head? :P
Thu 22/01/04 at 21:44
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Well that is what is said in words, but will it be practical to bring in every juvenile smoking the stuff just to warn them?

I think what the government are trying to say is, if they don't see it, nothing will happen to you.
Thu 22/01/04 at 20:24
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Reclassification of cannabis

The Government will reclassify cannabis from a Class B to a Class C drug, the new legislation will take effect on 29 January 2004 across the United Kingdom.

Reclassification means the Government acknowledge that cannabis is not as harmful as other Class B substances like Speed. But the supply and possession of cannabis will still be illegal. Penalties for supplying will stay the same (with a maximum of 14 years). The maximum prison sentence for possession will be reduced from five years to two. Fines and other non-custodial sentences like compulsory community service will still apply.

For those over 18, most offences of cannabis possession are likely to result in a warning and confiscation of the drug. But you could be arrested if you smoke in a public place, near a place where there are children e.g a school, or where public order is at risk. Those who repeatedly commit offences will be arrested and will be prosecuted.

If you are under 18, and it's your first offence of cannabis possession you will normally be arrested, taken to the police station and given a warning or a reprimand.

If it's not your first offence, you will be given either a final warning or you will be charged. If you have been given a warning in the past and you get caught again you'll most likely be charged. When you get a warning you are referred to the local Youth Offending team (YOT).

[Source: TalkToFrank.com]
Thu 22/01/04 at 19:58
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*biological and chemical

bah
Thu 22/01/04 at 19:46
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It also brings up an interesting question - how do you define a 'drug'?

I'm not talking about from a law point of view, I'm talking from a biological point of view.
Thu 22/01/04 at 19:44
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Yukikaze wrote:
> I think anyone who needs illegal drugs for anything other than clear
> medicinal reasons (such as pain management) is pretty pathetic. A few
> legal ones are also pretty sad - cigarettes for one.

I'd be interested to know like E_B says, what you think of alcohol and caffeine.
Thu 22/01/04 at 19:42
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Yukikaze wrote:
> ... A few legal ones are also pretty sad - cigarettes for one.

So, which legal drugs don't you consider pathetic?
Thu 22/01/04 at 19:42
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Then what are your views on caffeine and alcohol?
Thu 22/01/04 at 19:41
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I think anyone who needs illegal drugs for anything other than clear medicinal reasons (such as pain management) is pretty pathetic. A few legal ones are also pretty sad - cigarettes for one.

That's my unforgiving Conservative view, just in case you couldn't tell.
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