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I read that a war hero was murdered in cold blood on his doorstep.
83 year's old he was, if my memory serves me correctly.
Police say thet believe there was no motive.
What happened, was, he was shot at point blank range by a shotgun.
Not a simple handgun shot or anything.
A shotgun.
How can *anybody* just walk up to a frail old man, and blast him through the chest with a shotgun?
Oh, and this wasn't in America by the way. Which shocks me almost as much.
Jesus Christ.
83 year's old he was, if my memory serves me correctly.
Police say thet believe there was no motive.
What happened, was, he was shot at point blank range by a shotgun.
Not a simple handgun shot or anything.
A shotgun.
How can *anybody* just walk up to a frail old man, and blast him through the chest with a shotgun?
Oh, and this wasn't in America by the way. Which shocks me almost as much.
Jesus Christ.
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Yukikaze wrote:
> Because god doesn't cause accidents like that, he/she does not badly
> engineer airplanes etc. People mess up.
And people believe in divine intervention like miracles but God has never intervened to save a plane crash, train crash, boat sinking anything in which hundreds of people have died on.
> Because god doesn't cause accidents like that, he/she does not badly
> engineer airplanes etc. People mess up.
And people believe in divine intervention like miracles but God has never intervened to save a plane crash, train crash, boat sinking anything in which hundreds of people have died on.
Cubist wrote:
> Azul wrote:
> Gladly.
>
> "think how f|_|c|
>
> Well to those who believe in god that's a question I'd like to ask.
> Why do they worship someone so messed up that he kills hundreds of
> woman and children in tragic accidents like plane crashes.
Because god doesn't cause accidents like that, he/she does not badly engineer airplanes etc. People mess up.
> Azul wrote:
> Gladly.
>
> "think how f|_|c|
>
> Well to those who believe in god that's a question I'd like to ask.
> Why do they worship someone so messed up that he kills hundreds of
> woman and children in tragic accidents like plane crashes.
Because god doesn't cause accidents like that, he/she does not badly engineer airplanes etc. People mess up.
Azul wrote:
> "if he used a normal gun instead of a big shot gun it would make
> it better."
>
> There. Just did.
You've not quoted the whole sentence idiot. If you read all of it it means the exact opposite of that.
> , you said that being killed by a shotgun is more calous
>
> No, I didn't. I said the intent is more callous. Countlessly, you
> fail to see what I am saying.
In my eyes that is one and the same.
> The fact that the old man was murdered by a shotgun brings forward
> the thought that the murder was pre-meditated - therefore it is more
> callous than a spur of the moment, "I feel like killing someone,
> I'll randomly knock on this guys door and shoot him with my pistol
> then scarper".
WHAT!?!?! You're saying that not using a shotgun makes you do it really quickly but it's premeditated but when you've got a pistol and you're slyly lurking around and so on it's most likely spur of the moment. You're messed up. A shot gun by your logic is obviously the weapon that is more spur of the moment.
> and i said that you were being stupid as either way the
> result is the same.
>
> Well done. But what's that got to do with anything? It's the morality
> of it that I'm talking about.
Morality is in the eyes of the beholder tool. Many people do not share the same moral values as you do.
> One dead body and a grieving family. I really
> don't think they'd care whatever the weapon was they must still be
> distraught.
>
> Again, what's that got to do with anything? I'm not talking about
> what the family feels. You've pointlessly brought that up out of the
> blue for no reason whatsoever. Feel shamed.
I have brought that up to show you that no matter what weapon the result is the same and I thought it had been implied from the start of this whole discussion that morality isn't a factor either because what that mans done in life no matter how good is all in vain now he's 6 feet under. Morality is not a factor.
> And how the hell was my "description" of a killer remotely
> like Solid Snake?
>
> If you have to ask that you're not ready to know.
>
> What kind of pathetic, moronic, "Look at me, I'm trying to sound
> wise and failing absolutely bloody miserably" answer is that?!
*rolls eyes*
> I was merely pointing out the fact that using a shotgun, there was
> more callous intent.
>
> So? That's stupid as I said, some results either way. For all you
> know that gun was simply easier to get a hold of through his
> contacts.
>
> Read the above.
>
> Compare this to the story of that Policeman being murdered with a
> shotgun.
> It's reported he just blasted him without looking around to see if
> anyone was there etc. He just shot him.
>
> He would have just shot him with any other gun.
>
> ....
> What?
Just thought I'd point out that was again the shot gun is nothing more than a tool of death and that he'd have shot him with any other gun and got the same results because the person is messed up in the head.
>
> Whereas with the pistol, you can imagine the cautious murderer,
> checking to see if anyone was watching.
>
> Once again your above description is pressuming that the killer is
> like Solid Snake and all concerned with killing him slyly.
>
> Oh for God sake.
> The "Solid Snake" persona is that of a militist, using
> stealth. I mentioned stealth nowhere.
> You need to learn the difference between the stealth approach, and a
> sly cautiously nervous approach.
I just used it as a passing example at the start that you've picked up on although you're making a fool of yourself with it. How the hell do you know if by using a pistol he's more likely to slyly cautiously and nervously approach someone. He could do the exact same thing so can we just drop all this weapon crap as you're just being a fool. Either way the same results, just because you can imagine the killer acting differently with each weapon that doesn't cound for anything!
> It stands that the former lays forward the thought of cold blooded
> intent. And that's what I mean. I thought that was quite clear,
> other
> than your ludicrous and un-needed comparison to a gaming character.
>
> They both have lay forward the thought of cold blooded intent you
> cretin.
>
> Not necessarily. The latter may just be some teen looking for some
> fun. There's no cold blooded intent in his mind.
> But it's still wrong. That is off the point, however.
Oh good another one of your scenarios which you've imagined up. Just because the names of different weapons have connatations of different actions does not mean that's what would happen at all! You've got to go on facts not what you think would happen because you can imagine it.
> Although I am still of the opinion that either way is calous and
> evil
> and up above I was just humouring your theory so I could void it.
> It's just utter poo.
>
>
> My original statment is that it is ironic in the way that this member
> of the British public, who had fought for this very nation to
> preserve its freedom, was murdered by a fellow Brit.
> Muh, I give up, I really do. You blurt out the most pointless of
> argumentative statements.
No one's denying it's ironic. Why have you brought that into the debate at this late stage? We were arguing over two completely different aspects as that one is evident.
> "if he used a normal gun instead of a big shot gun it would make
> it better."
>
> There. Just did.
You've not quoted the whole sentence idiot. If you read all of it it means the exact opposite of that.
> , you said that being killed by a shotgun is more calous
>
> No, I didn't. I said the intent is more callous. Countlessly, you
> fail to see what I am saying.
In my eyes that is one and the same.
> The fact that the old man was murdered by a shotgun brings forward
> the thought that the murder was pre-meditated - therefore it is more
> callous than a spur of the moment, "I feel like killing someone,
> I'll randomly knock on this guys door and shoot him with my pistol
> then scarper".
WHAT!?!?! You're saying that not using a shotgun makes you do it really quickly but it's premeditated but when you've got a pistol and you're slyly lurking around and so on it's most likely spur of the moment. You're messed up. A shot gun by your logic is obviously the weapon that is more spur of the moment.
> and i said that you were being stupid as either way the
> result is the same.
>
> Well done. But what's that got to do with anything? It's the morality
> of it that I'm talking about.
Morality is in the eyes of the beholder tool. Many people do not share the same moral values as you do.
> One dead body and a grieving family. I really
> don't think they'd care whatever the weapon was they must still be
> distraught.
>
> Again, what's that got to do with anything? I'm not talking about
> what the family feels. You've pointlessly brought that up out of the
> blue for no reason whatsoever. Feel shamed.
I have brought that up to show you that no matter what weapon the result is the same and I thought it had been implied from the start of this whole discussion that morality isn't a factor either because what that mans done in life no matter how good is all in vain now he's 6 feet under. Morality is not a factor.
> And how the hell was my "description" of a killer remotely
> like Solid Snake?
>
> If you have to ask that you're not ready to know.
>
> What kind of pathetic, moronic, "Look at me, I'm trying to sound
> wise and failing absolutely bloody miserably" answer is that?!
*rolls eyes*
> I was merely pointing out the fact that using a shotgun, there was
> more callous intent.
>
> So? That's stupid as I said, some results either way. For all you
> know that gun was simply easier to get a hold of through his
> contacts.
>
> Read the above.
>
> Compare this to the story of that Policeman being murdered with a
> shotgun.
> It's reported he just blasted him without looking around to see if
> anyone was there etc. He just shot him.
>
> He would have just shot him with any other gun.
>
> ....
> What?
Just thought I'd point out that was again the shot gun is nothing more than a tool of death and that he'd have shot him with any other gun and got the same results because the person is messed up in the head.
>
> Whereas with the pistol, you can imagine the cautious murderer,
> checking to see if anyone was watching.
>
> Once again your above description is pressuming that the killer is
> like Solid Snake and all concerned with killing him slyly.
>
> Oh for God sake.
> The "Solid Snake" persona is that of a militist, using
> stealth. I mentioned stealth nowhere.
> You need to learn the difference between the stealth approach, and a
> sly cautiously nervous approach.
I just used it as a passing example at the start that you've picked up on although you're making a fool of yourself with it. How the hell do you know if by using a pistol he's more likely to slyly cautiously and nervously approach someone. He could do the exact same thing so can we just drop all this weapon crap as you're just being a fool. Either way the same results, just because you can imagine the killer acting differently with each weapon that doesn't cound for anything!
> It stands that the former lays forward the thought of cold blooded
> intent. And that's what I mean. I thought that was quite clear,
> other
> than your ludicrous and un-needed comparison to a gaming character.
>
> They both have lay forward the thought of cold blooded intent you
> cretin.
>
> Not necessarily. The latter may just be some teen looking for some
> fun. There's no cold blooded intent in his mind.
> But it's still wrong. That is off the point, however.
Oh good another one of your scenarios which you've imagined up. Just because the names of different weapons have connatations of different actions does not mean that's what would happen at all! You've got to go on facts not what you think would happen because you can imagine it.
> Although I am still of the opinion that either way is calous and
> evil
> and up above I was just humouring your theory so I could void it.
> It's just utter poo.
>
>
> My original statment is that it is ironic in the way that this member
> of the British public, who had fought for this very nation to
> preserve its freedom, was murdered by a fellow Brit.
> Muh, I give up, I really do. You blurt out the most pointless of
> argumentative statements.
No one's denying it's ironic. Why have you brought that into the debate at this late stage? We were arguing over two completely different aspects as that one is evident.
Cubist wrote:
> Cubist Wrote:
> I was comparing your description of a killer with a gun to Solid
> Snake in Metal Gear Solid in an attempt to show you how stupid you
> were being thinking that if he used a normal gun instead of a big
> shot gun it would make it better.
>
> Azul wrote:
> When did I say that using a shotgun to shoot someone is
> "better"?
>
> Read what I said again
"if he used a normal gun instead of a big shot gun it would make it better."
There. Just did.
, you said that being killed by a shotgun is more calous
No, I didn't. I said the intent is more callous. Countlessly, you fail to see what I am saying.
The fact that the old man was murdered by a shotgun brings forward the thought that the murder was pre-meditated - therefore it is more callous than a spur of the moment, "I feel like killing someone, I'll randomly knock on this guys door and shoot him with my pistol then scarper".
and i said that you were being stupid as either way the
> result is the same.
Well done. But what's that got to do with anything? It's the morality of it that I'm talking about.
One dead body and a grieving family. I really
> don't think they'd care whatever the weapon was they must still be
> distraught.
Again, what's that got to do with anything? I'm not talking about what the family feels. You've pointlessly brought that up out of the blue for no reason whatsoever. Feel shamed.
>
> And how the hell was my "description" of a killer remotely
> like Solid Snake?
>
> If you have to ask that you're not ready to know.
What kind of pathetic, moronic, "Look at me, I'm trying to sound wise and failing absolutely bloody miserably" answer is that?!
>
> I was merely pointing out the fact that using a shotgun, there was
> more callous intent.
>
> So? That's stupid as I said, some results either way. For all you
> know that gun was simply easier to get a hold of through his
> contacts.
Read the above.
> Compare this to the story of that Policeman being murdered with a
> shotgun.
> It's reported he just blasted him without looking around to see if
> anyone was there etc. He just shot him.
>
> He would have just shot him with any other gun.
....
What?
> Whereas with the pistol, you can imagine the cautious murderer,
> checking to see if anyone was watching.
>
> Once again your above description is pressuming that the killer is
> like Solid Snake and all concerned with killing him slyly.
Oh for God sake.
The "Solid Snake" persona is that of a militist, using stealth. I mentioned stealth nowhere.
You need to learn the difference between the stealth approach, and a sly cautiously nervous approach.
> It stands that the former lays forward the thought of cold blooded
> intent. And that's what I mean. I thought that was quite clear,
> other
> than your ludicrous and un-needed comparison to a gaming character.
>
> They both have lay forward the thought of cold blooded intent you
> cretin.
Not necessarily. The latter may just be some teen looking for some fun. There's no cold blooded intent in his mind.
But it's still wrong. That is off the point, however.
> Although I am still of the opinion that either way is calous and evil
> and up above I was just humouring your theory so I could void it.
> It's just utter poo.
My original statment is that it is ironic in the way that this member of the British public, who had fought for this very nation to preserve its freedom, was murdered by a fellow Brit.
Muh, I give up, I really do. You blurt out the most pointless of argumentative statements.
> Cubist Wrote:
> I was comparing your description of a killer with a gun to Solid
> Snake in Metal Gear Solid in an attempt to show you how stupid you
> were being thinking that if he used a normal gun instead of a big
> shot gun it would make it better.
>
> Azul wrote:
> When did I say that using a shotgun to shoot someone is
> "better"?
>
> Read what I said again
"if he used a normal gun instead of a big shot gun it would make it better."
There. Just did.
, you said that being killed by a shotgun is more calous
No, I didn't. I said the intent is more callous. Countlessly, you fail to see what I am saying.
The fact that the old man was murdered by a shotgun brings forward the thought that the murder was pre-meditated - therefore it is more callous than a spur of the moment, "I feel like killing someone, I'll randomly knock on this guys door and shoot him with my pistol then scarper".
and i said that you were being stupid as either way the
> result is the same.
Well done. But what's that got to do with anything? It's the morality of it that I'm talking about.
One dead body and a grieving family. I really
> don't think they'd care whatever the weapon was they must still be
> distraught.
Again, what's that got to do with anything? I'm not talking about what the family feels. You've pointlessly brought that up out of the blue for no reason whatsoever. Feel shamed.
>
> And how the hell was my "description" of a killer remotely
> like Solid Snake?
>
> If you have to ask that you're not ready to know.
What kind of pathetic, moronic, "Look at me, I'm trying to sound wise and failing absolutely bloody miserably" answer is that?!
>
> I was merely pointing out the fact that using a shotgun, there was
> more callous intent.
>
> So? That's stupid as I said, some results either way. For all you
> know that gun was simply easier to get a hold of through his
> contacts.
Read the above.
> Compare this to the story of that Policeman being murdered with a
> shotgun.
> It's reported he just blasted him without looking around to see if
> anyone was there etc. He just shot him.
>
> He would have just shot him with any other gun.
....
What?
> Whereas with the pistol, you can imagine the cautious murderer,
> checking to see if anyone was watching.
>
> Once again your above description is pressuming that the killer is
> like Solid Snake and all concerned with killing him slyly.
Oh for God sake.
The "Solid Snake" persona is that of a militist, using stealth. I mentioned stealth nowhere.
You need to learn the difference between the stealth approach, and a sly cautiously nervous approach.
> It stands that the former lays forward the thought of cold blooded
> intent. And that's what I mean. I thought that was quite clear,
> other
> than your ludicrous and un-needed comparison to a gaming character.
>
> They both have lay forward the thought of cold blooded intent you
> cretin.
Not necessarily. The latter may just be some teen looking for some fun. There's no cold blooded intent in his mind.
But it's still wrong. That is off the point, however.
> Although I am still of the opinion that either way is calous and evil
> and up above I was just humouring your theory so I could void it.
> It's just utter poo.
My original statment is that it is ironic in the way that this member of the British public, who had fought for this very nation to preserve its freedom, was murdered by a fellow Brit.
Muh, I give up, I really do. You blurt out the most pointless of argumentative statements.
Cubist Wrote:
> I was comparing your description of a killer with a gun to Solid
> Snake in Metal Gear Solid in an attempt to show you how stupid you
> were being thinking that if he used a normal gun instead of a big
> shot gun it would make it better.
Azul wrote:
> When did I say that using a shotgun to shoot someone is
> "better"?
Read what I said again, you said that being killed by a shotgun is more calous and i said that you were being stupid as either way the result is the same. One dead body and a grieving family. I really don't think they'd care whatever the weapon was they must still be distraught.
> And how the hell was my "description" of a killer remotely
> like Solid Snake?
If you have to ask that you're not ready to know.
> I was merely pointing out the fact that using a shotgun, there was
> more callous intent.
So? That's stupid as I said, some results either way. For all you know that gun was simply easier to get a hold of through his contacts.
> Compare this to the story of that Policeman being murdered with a
> shotgun.
> It's reported he just blasted him without looking around to see if
> anyone was there etc. He just shot him.
He would have just shot him with any other gun.
> Whereas with the pistol, you can imagine the cautious murderer,
> checking to see if anyone was watching.
Once again your above description is pressuming that the killer is like Solid Snake and all concerned with killing him slyly.
> It stands that the former lays forward the thought of cold blooded
> intent. And that's what I mean. I thought that was quite clear, other
> than your ludicrous and un-needed comparison to a gaming character.
They both have lay forward the thought of cold blooded intent you cretin. Just one description has conatation of a dark figure lurking and waiting for the pounce in a pre-meditated murder which I would class as more evil. If you truly believe that a shot gun is more calous that means it would be used in a fit of rage wich they may regret later. Very few murderers who premeditate their killings regret it.
Although I am still of the opinion that either way is calous and evil and up above I was just humouring your theory so I could void it. It's just utter poo.
> I was comparing your description of a killer with a gun to Solid
> Snake in Metal Gear Solid in an attempt to show you how stupid you
> were being thinking that if he used a normal gun instead of a big
> shot gun it would make it better.
Azul wrote:
> When did I say that using a shotgun to shoot someone is
> "better"?
Read what I said again, you said that being killed by a shotgun is more calous and i said that you were being stupid as either way the result is the same. One dead body and a grieving family. I really don't think they'd care whatever the weapon was they must still be distraught.
> And how the hell was my "description" of a killer remotely
> like Solid Snake?
If you have to ask that you're not ready to know.
> I was merely pointing out the fact that using a shotgun, there was
> more callous intent.
So? That's stupid as I said, some results either way. For all you know that gun was simply easier to get a hold of through his contacts.
> Compare this to the story of that Policeman being murdered with a
> shotgun.
> It's reported he just blasted him without looking around to see if
> anyone was there etc. He just shot him.
He would have just shot him with any other gun.
> Whereas with the pistol, you can imagine the cautious murderer,
> checking to see if anyone was watching.
Once again your above description is pressuming that the killer is like Solid Snake and all concerned with killing him slyly.
> It stands that the former lays forward the thought of cold blooded
> intent. And that's what I mean. I thought that was quite clear, other
> than your ludicrous and un-needed comparison to a gaming character.
They both have lay forward the thought of cold blooded intent you cretin. Just one description has conatation of a dark figure lurking and waiting for the pounce in a pre-meditated murder which I would class as more evil. If you truly believe that a shot gun is more calous that means it would be used in a fit of rage wich they may regret later. Very few murderers who premeditate their killings regret it.
Although I am still of the opinion that either way is calous and evil and up above I was just humouring your theory so I could void it. It's just utter poo.
Cubist wrote:
> Azul wrote:
> Cubist wrote:
> "just because you've got a metal gear solid stereotype for this
> murderer" - What?
>
> Well you said that he would of had to swagger up to him with a
> shotgun and shoot him however with another gun he would have been
> sly
> and gone up behind him or some crap like that. I was just saying
> that
> your using a stereotypical view of this murderer as if he is solid
> snake or someone and cared about killing people slyly and so on.
>
> What the hell as Metal Gear Solid got to do with anything?!
>
> I was comparing your description of a killer with a gun to Solid
> Snake in Metal Gear Solid in an attempt to show you how stupid you
> were being thinking that if he used a normal gun instead of a big
> shot gun it would make it better.
When did I say that using a shotgun to shoot someone is "better"?
And how the hell was my "description" of a killer remotely like Solid Snake?
I was merely pointing out the fact that using a shotgun, there was more callous intent.
Compare this to the story of that Policeman being murdered with a shotgun.
It's reported he just blasted him without looking around to see if anyone was there etc. He just shot him.
Whereas with the pistol, you can imagine the cautious murderer, checking to see if anyone was watching.
It stands that the former lays forward the thought of cold blooded intent. And that's what I mean. I thought that was quite clear, other than your ludicrous and un-needed comparison to a gaming character.
> Azul wrote:
> Cubist wrote:
> "just because you've got a metal gear solid stereotype for this
> murderer" - What?
>
> Well you said that he would of had to swagger up to him with a
> shotgun and shoot him however with another gun he would have been
> sly
> and gone up behind him or some crap like that. I was just saying
> that
> your using a stereotypical view of this murderer as if he is solid
> snake or someone and cared about killing people slyly and so on.
>
> What the hell as Metal Gear Solid got to do with anything?!
>
> I was comparing your description of a killer with a gun to Solid
> Snake in Metal Gear Solid in an attempt to show you how stupid you
> were being thinking that if he used a normal gun instead of a big
> shot gun it would make it better.
When did I say that using a shotgun to shoot someone is "better"?
And how the hell was my "description" of a killer remotely like Solid Snake?
I was merely pointing out the fact that using a shotgun, there was more callous intent.
Compare this to the story of that Policeman being murdered with a shotgun.
It's reported he just blasted him without looking around to see if anyone was there etc. He just shot him.
Whereas with the pistol, you can imagine the cautious murderer, checking to see if anyone was watching.
It stands that the former lays forward the thought of cold blooded intent. And that's what I mean. I thought that was quite clear, other than your ludicrous and un-needed comparison to a gaming character.
Azul wrote:
> Cubist wrote:
> "just because you've got a metal gear solid stereotype for this
> murderer" - What?
>
> Well you said that he would of had to swagger up to him with a
> shotgun and shoot him however with another gun he would have been
> sly
> and gone up behind him or some crap like that. I was just saying
> that
> your using a stereotypical view of this murderer as if he is solid
> snake or someone and cared about killing people slyly and so on.
>
> What the hell as Metal Gear Solid got to do with anything?!
I was comparing your description of a killer with a gun to Solid Snake in Metal Gear Solid in an attempt to show you how stupid you were being thinking that if he used a normal gun instead of a big shot gun it would make it better.
> "Either way though he's dead and nothing will bring him
> back" - Now that's just ignorance.
>
> Lol i'd say it's fact.
>
> No. Ignorance.
No you're quite blatantly being ignorant of the facts, the facts being that he was shot and killed and nothing will bring him back which is exactly what I said.
> Cubist wrote:
> "just because you've got a metal gear solid stereotype for this
> murderer" - What?
>
> Well you said that he would of had to swagger up to him with a
> shotgun and shoot him however with another gun he would have been
> sly
> and gone up behind him or some crap like that. I was just saying
> that
> your using a stereotypical view of this murderer as if he is solid
> snake or someone and cared about killing people slyly and so on.
>
> What the hell as Metal Gear Solid got to do with anything?!
I was comparing your description of a killer with a gun to Solid Snake in Metal Gear Solid in an attempt to show you how stupid you were being thinking that if he used a normal gun instead of a big shot gun it would make it better.
> "Either way though he's dead and nothing will bring him
> back" - Now that's just ignorance.
>
> Lol i'd say it's fact.
>
> No. Ignorance.
No you're quite blatantly being ignorant of the facts, the facts being that he was shot and killed and nothing will bring him back which is exactly what I said.
Cubist wrote:
> "just because you've got a metal gear solid stereotype for this
> murderer" - What?
>
> Well you said that he would of had to swagger up to him with a
> shotgun and shoot him however with another gun he would have been sly
> and gone up behind him or some crap like that. I was just saying that
> your using a stereotypical view of this murderer as if he is solid
> snake or someone and cared about killing people slyly and so on.
What the hell as Metal Gear Solid got to do with anything?!
>
> "Either way though he's dead and nothing will bring him
> back" - Now that's just ignorance.
>
> Lol i'd say it's fact.
No. Ignorance.
> "just because you've got a metal gear solid stereotype for this
> murderer" - What?
>
> Well you said that he would of had to swagger up to him with a
> shotgun and shoot him however with another gun he would have been sly
> and gone up behind him or some crap like that. I was just saying that
> your using a stereotypical view of this murderer as if he is solid
> snake or someone and cared about killing people slyly and so on.
What the hell as Metal Gear Solid got to do with anything?!
>
> "Either way though he's dead and nothing will bring him
> back" - Now that's just ignorance.
>
> Lol i'd say it's fact.
No. Ignorance.
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> Gladly.
>
> "think how f|_|c|
Well to those who believe in god that's a question I'd like to ask. Why do they worship someone so messed up that he kills hundreds of woman and children in tragic accidents like plane crashes.
> "If it wasn't in America, it was probably an American, or a
> Mexican, or a Cuban." - Yeah, plenty of Cubans and Mexicans
> roaming around Herts.
I didn't say that.
> "an outstanding grudge from years back" - I doubt anybody
> would have a grudge against an 83 year old war hero, and shoot him
> through the chest with a shotgun on his doorstep if they did.
I didn't say that either did i?
> "just because you've got a metal gear solid stereotype for this
> murderer" - What?
Well you said that he would of had to swagger up to him with a shotgun and shoot him however with another gun he would have been sly and gone up behind him or some crap like that. I was just saying that your using a stereotypical view of this murderer as if he is solid snake or someone and cared about killing people slyly and so on.
> "Either way though he's dead and nothing will bring him
> back" - Now that's just ignorance.
Lol i'd say it's fact.
> Gladly.
>
> "think how f|_|c|
Well to those who believe in god that's a question I'd like to ask. Why do they worship someone so messed up that he kills hundreds of woman and children in tragic accidents like plane crashes.
> "If it wasn't in America, it was probably an American, or a
> Mexican, or a Cuban." - Yeah, plenty of Cubans and Mexicans
> roaming around Herts.
I didn't say that.
> "an outstanding grudge from years back" - I doubt anybody
> would have a grudge against an 83 year old war hero, and shoot him
> through the chest with a shotgun on his doorstep if they did.
I didn't say that either did i?
> "just because you've got a metal gear solid stereotype for this
> murderer" - What?
Well you said that he would of had to swagger up to him with a shotgun and shoot him however with another gun he would have been sly and gone up behind him or some crap like that. I was just saying that your using a stereotypical view of this murderer as if he is solid snake or someone and cared about killing people slyly and so on.
> "Either way though he's dead and nothing will bring him
> back" - Now that's just ignorance.
Lol i'd say it's fact.
Gladly.
"think how f|_|c|
"If it wasn't in America, it was probably an American, or a Mexican, or a Cuban." - Yeah, plenty of Cubans and Mexicans roaming around Herts.
"an outstanding grudge from years back" - I doubt anybody would have a grudge against an 83 year old war hero, and shoot him through the chest with a shotgun on his doorstep if they did.
"just because you've got a metal gear solid stereotype for this murderer" - What?
"Either way though he's dead and nothing will bring him back" - Now that's just ignorance.
"think how f|_|c|
"If it wasn't in America, it was probably an American, or a Mexican, or a Cuban." - Yeah, plenty of Cubans and Mexicans roaming around Herts.
"an outstanding grudge from years back" - I doubt anybody would have a grudge against an 83 year old war hero, and shoot him through the chest with a shotgun on his doorstep if they did.
"just because you've got a metal gear solid stereotype for this murderer" - What?
"Either way though he's dead and nothing will bring him back" - Now that's just ignorance.
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