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Sun 28/12/03 at 21:34
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I've recently ordered Broadband and will have my connection enabled on Monday. I ordered an external ADSL Modem/Router 4 Ethernet Port/USB with two microfilters.
My problem is the microfilters. I need one on every live phone connection in the house right? So one downstairs and one up stairs. The problem comes when the phone upstairs is located in my parents room and the PC that will be getting broadband is in my room. Currently there is an extension lead that runs into my room that has a phone and a 56K modem connected.
Would I need two microfilters? One in my parents room with the phone and extension connected and then one on the end of the extension (which is in my room) with a phone connected? That means I'll need one more microfilter (three in total incl. downstairs).
Im going to order an extra one if so. In the meantime I'll disconnect the phone in my parents room and just put the microfilter on the end of the extension lead (located in my room) with the phone connected, just to check whether the connection is working, would this work?

A lot of questions there I know!, but your help is greatly appreciated. Cheers guys.
Wed 31/12/03 at 23:33
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"Jim Jam Jim"
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Seems strange you need to dial up to get connected when using a router. A router should store all information needed to connect. Are you sure you have a router and not just a modem that fits in the USB? A modem still needs to be dialled on ADSL as its the way windows deals with it. You dont actual dial up in the sense of a 56K modem, but if your on a modem you do need to do it every time you want to connect. I use a USB modem so as soon as the PC is switched on I connect and then it stays connected til I turn the PC off. A router is good if you need to share the connection with more than one PC as its always on as the router stays connected even if there is no PC or device using it.
Thu 01/01/04 at 00:18
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adrian wrote:
> Seems strange you need to dial up to get connected when using a
> router. A router should store all information needed to connect. Are
> you sure you have a router and not just a modem that fits in the USB?

I thought that. Its definately a modem router. It looks for a connection as soon as I enter Windows, the little box appears in the status bar etc. but as I am not connected with the wire yet I cant actually get online; or to check whether my line has been activated.

The situation with my old modem is that in the properties for my dial-up connection that I setup (as told in the SR user guide). It dials using my old 56k modem and not the modem router, and there seems to be no way I can change this!?!

> A router is good if you need to share the connection with more than one PC as its always on as the router stays connected even if there is no PC or device using it.

Im going to connect it to my PS2 soon hopefully. Just have to wait for all the bits and pieces to arrive.
Thu 01/01/04 at 10:58
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"Jim Jam Jim"
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Drazen wrote:
> I thought that. Its definately a modem router. It looks for a
> connection as soon as I enter Windows, the little box appears in the
> status bar etc. but as I am not connected with the wire yet I cant
> actually get online; or to check whether my line has been activated.
>
> The situation with my old modem is that in the properties for my
> dial-up connection that I setup (as told in the SR user guide). It
> dials using my old 56k modem and not the modem router, and there
> seems to be no way I can change this!?!
>
> Im going to connect it to my PS2 soon hopefully. Just have to wait
> for all the bits and pieces to arrive.

When you say "little box appears" is that the two little monitor type icons that appear when your connected to a network or the internet? If so that is your connection, and you should not need to dial in. How do you configure the router then? Is it by a webpage layout(most router use this)? This dialing up business seems strange, as once the router is connected its basically like a network, so if the "little box" is actually the network card connected to the router then there should be no dialing up at all. Once all the settings are set in the router you should and wires in place, you should be able to turn on the PC and access the internet with no dialing.

So is the router connected via a network card? If it isnt then I dont think it could be a router, also have you got a few ports on the back of it to put in more network cables?

You can check to see whether your line is active as you should have a LED somewhere on the router or modem that tells you that the line is in Sync, if the LED light is not on then you are not Synced and either have a problem at your end or the line is not active.
Thu 01/01/04 at 11:48
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What is the make and model of the router/modem and what windows version? Without this information it is all just guesswork and conjecture.

the borg
Thu 01/01/04 at 12:27
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theborg wrote:
> What is the make and model of the router/modem and what windows
> version? Without this information it is all just guesswork and
> conjecture.
>
> the borg

It seems Drazen and myself have both gone for the freeola broadband offering with their router. The router is an eTEC (epic router) PT-3812 using the Conexant chip set. A search on google shows there happens to be LOTS of unhappy owners...!

I am running Windows XP (and ME which will also share the router).

A lot of confusion comes from the fact that the docs that freeola send with the kit are wrong. They have documented things on the basis that you are using an ADSL modem and not a router - hence the stuff on setting up a dial up connection. You also have to follow the online ADSL setup instructions regarding entering your SR account details into the routers configuration.

Drazen and myself have been rather unlucky that our lines activation date of 29/12/03 fell when entanet (the broadband supplier) have shut down for Xmas and freeola can't contact them. I'm hoping that BT have done there bit and when entanet eventually turn up, they finish the job off.

freeola help desk can tell me that the ADSL line isn't fully enabled yet - hence my flashing wan light - and no connection.

Any useful comments appreciated...
Thanks.
Thu 01/01/04 at 14:08
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As long as the computers and router are on the same ip range (e.g.10.0.0.**) and the router is set up with the username and password then xp should just detect the internet connection (once activated) automatically through the network. There is no need to set up a dial-up connection at all - silly freeola!

If the dabs conexant router is a similar beast then try this guide http://www.cazart.plus.com/conexant/index.html it look fairly helpful.

If using Win 9x you will need to go to your network settings' properties, double click on TCP/IP and in gateway, enter the router's ip address as a new gateway.

the borg
Thu 01/01/04 at 15:28
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Thanks for that -the borg.
I also came across this link which seems to have become an unofficial forum for this sort of router: http://peteashton.com/001128.html

Just waiting for my line to be ready before I can connect.

If anyone out there is using freeola and their (pt3812) router feel free to post here. I did ask a few months ago if any readers of this freeola forum used freeola broadband - but I didn't get any useful responses then.
It doesn't look good if entanet support is required...
Thu 01/01/04 at 17:54
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GWD wrote:
> It seems Drazen and myself have both gone for the freeola broadband
> offering with their router. The router is an eTEC (epic router)
> PT-3812 using the Conexant chip set.

Yep we have...

> I am running Windows XP (and ME which will also share the router).
>
> A lot of confusion comes from the fact that the docs that freeola
> send with the kit are wrong. They have documented things on the basis
> that you are using an ADSL modem and not a router - hence the stuff
> on setting up a dial up connection. You also have to follow the
> online ADSL setup instructions regarding entering your SR account
> details into the routers configuration.


Exactly!...

I ain't done any of the router setup due to the fact that the line isn't connected and that Im rather confused with all the wrong stuff!
How did you setup the router GWD?
Sat 03/01/04 at 17:26
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All sorted!
freeola emailed yesterday evening to confirm my line had 'now' been successfully enabled. This afternoon! things started working.

To configure the router you visit address 10.0.0.2 using your browser.
Look at the adsl router setup docs on freeola for adding username and password.

Router seems fine so far with a couple of PC's hanging off it...

(Tip: Make sure ALL your phones are connected via a filter!)

Good luck.
Sat 03/01/04 at 20:14
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GWD wrote:
> All sorted!
> freeola emailed yesterday evening to confirm my line had 'now' been
> successfully enabled.

Me too!

> To configure the router you visit address 10.0.0.2 using your
> browser.
> Look at the adsl router setup docs on freeola for adding username and
> password.
>
> Router seems fine so far with a couple of PC's hanging off it...
>
> (Tip: Make sure ALL your phones are connected via a filter!)
>
> Good luck.

All working now, after a lot of fiddling with the router I decided to reset all the details and start from scratch using the freeola router guide. Everythings working great now. Cheers GWD for all your help, and the rest of you who posted suggestions, thanks.
Hope all goes well GWD, a good start!

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