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I've recently ordered Broadband and will have my connection enabled on Monday. I ordered an external ADSL Modem/Router 4 Ethernet Port/USB with two microfilters.
My problem is the microfilters. I need one on every live phone connection in the house right? So one downstairs and one up stairs. The problem comes when the phone upstairs is located in my parents room and the PC that will be getting broadband is in my room. Currently there is an extension lead that runs into my room that has a phone and a 56K modem connected.
Would I need two microfilters? One in my parents room with the phone and extension connected and then one on the end of the extension (which is in my room) with a phone connected? That means I'll need one more microfilter (three in total incl. downstairs).
Im going to order an extra one if so. In the meantime I'll disconnect the phone in my parents room and just put the microfilter on the end of the extension lead (located in my room) with the phone connected, just to check whether the connection is working, would this work?
A lot of questions there I know!, but your help is greatly appreciated. Cheers guys.
My problem is the microfilters. I need one on every live phone connection in the house right? So one downstairs and one up stairs. The problem comes when the phone upstairs is located in my parents room and the PC that will be getting broadband is in my room. Currently there is an extension lead that runs into my room that has a phone and a 56K modem connected.
Would I need two microfilters? One in my parents room with the phone and extension connected and then one on the end of the extension (which is in my room) with a phone connected? That means I'll need one more microfilter (three in total incl. downstairs).
Im going to order an extra one if so. In the meantime I'll disconnect the phone in my parents room and just put the microfilter on the end of the extension lead (located in my room) with the phone connected, just to check whether the connection is working, would this work?
A lot of questions there I know!, but your help is greatly appreciated. Cheers guys.
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Basicly what you need is a straight, unfiltered line from the outside line to the dsl modem. So outside line to filter. Downstairs phones come out of the telephone side of the filter. Upstairs comes off the data side of the filter. Upstairs - filter, parents telephone comes off telephone side of filter. Extention to computer room comes off data side. Filter. Telephone & modem come off telephone side, dsl modem data side.
I'm sure that is what I have. Will look later.
the borg
I'm sure that is what I have. Will look later.
the borg
Drazen wrote:
> OK, cheers Adrian. Do SR sell these RJ11 cables? Where could I get
> one from at a reasonable price?
> I then connect this cable to my modem and run it all the way into my
> parents room and connect it to the microfilter on the main socket.
> Got it. Do I need a microfilter downstairs too, according to the
> guide and insatllation info I got it says all sockets need a
> microfilter on otherwise there will be some interference?...
>
> Should be allright, just need a cable now.
I doubt SR sell them. Basically its http://www.dsl-warehouse.co.uk/ (space) product.asp?pr=RJ11&pm=2524
You can buy different lengths, with 15 metres being just over £10.
With microfilters you need to have one on every socket that has a phone, sky digi box, house alarm etc. Anything which can use the phone line has to be microfiltered. If something is not microfiltered, for example you have a Sky box and you forget it and dont filter it, then when it dials in to cast a vote or whatever you will lose sync on the ADSL and therefore be disconnected until the phone line is free again.
> OK, cheers Adrian. Do SR sell these RJ11 cables? Where could I get
> one from at a reasonable price?
> I then connect this cable to my modem and run it all the way into my
> parents room and connect it to the microfilter on the main socket.
> Got it. Do I need a microfilter downstairs too, according to the
> guide and insatllation info I got it says all sockets need a
> microfilter on otherwise there will be some interference?...
>
> Should be allright, just need a cable now.
I doubt SR sell them. Basically its http://www.dsl-warehouse.co.uk/ (space) product.asp?pr=RJ11&pm=2524
You can buy different lengths, with 15 metres being just over £10.
With microfilters you need to have one on every socket that has a phone, sky digi box, house alarm etc. Anything which can use the phone line has to be microfiltered. If something is not microfiltered, for example you have a Sky box and you forget it and dont filter it, then when it dials in to cast a vote or whatever you will lose sync on the ADSL and therefore be disconnected until the phone line is free again.
Actually what I just said is rubbish: you'll need a microfilter for each socket in the house, whether you have a phone or modem or whatever plugged into it. I blame the beer.
Drazen wrote:
> Got it. Do I need a microfilter downstairs too, according to the
> guide and insatllation info I got it says all sockets need a
> microfilter on otherwise there will be some interference?...
I think the secret is one, and probably ONLY one, microfilter for each socket in the house. Or one microfilter and a router, but that's probably overkill for a shared net connection.
> Got it. Do I need a microfilter downstairs too, according to the
> guide and insatllation info I got it says all sockets need a
> microfilter on otherwise there will be some interference?...
I think the secret is one, and probably ONLY one, microfilter for each socket in the house. Or one microfilter and a router, but that's probably overkill for a shared net connection.
adrian wrote:
> My friend had a similar situation as they have
> everything from just one socket. He put a microfilter on the socket
> and then put another microfilter to connect the ADSL near the PC, so
> 2 microfilters on the same cable. The modem will NOT sync and
> therefore you will get NO connection. Its ok if you have them on
> different sockets but you can not have more than one microfilter on
> the same cable.
>
> The solution would be to get a phone socket in your room or to run
> the ADSL cable from your parents room. A ADSL cable is basically a
> phone cable(RJ11) so you might have a long cable around somewhere or
> you may have to go and get one.
OK, cheers Adrian. Do SR sell these RJ11 cables? Where could I get one from at a reasonable price?
I then connect this cable to my modem and run it all the way into my parents room and connect it to the microfilter on the main socket. Got it. Do I need a microfilter downstairs too, according to the guide and insatllation info I got it says all sockets need a microfilter on otherwise there will be some interference?...
Should be allright, just need a cable now.
> My friend had a similar situation as they have
> everything from just one socket. He put a microfilter on the socket
> and then put another microfilter to connect the ADSL near the PC, so
> 2 microfilters on the same cable. The modem will NOT sync and
> therefore you will get NO connection. Its ok if you have them on
> different sockets but you can not have more than one microfilter on
> the same cable.
>
> The solution would be to get a phone socket in your room or to run
> the ADSL cable from your parents room. A ADSL cable is basically a
> phone cable(RJ11) so you might have a long cable around somewhere or
> you may have to go and get one.
OK, cheers Adrian. Do SR sell these RJ11 cables? Where could I get one from at a reasonable price?
I then connect this cable to my modem and run it all the way into my parents room and connect it to the microfilter on the main socket. Got it. Do I need a microfilter downstairs too, according to the guide and insatllation info I got it says all sockets need a microfilter on otherwise there will be some interference?...
Should be allright, just need a cable now.
AS LONG AS THERE IS A MICROFILTER SOMEWHERE BETWEEN YOUR MODEM AND THE WALL JACK...All is fine.
Notorious Biggles wrote:
> Now looked at Borg's picture and read your post again, properly. What
> I said last would stand. Once the connection has been filtered
> everything else coming off of it is fine without a microfilter. So
> one at the main plug would do the filtering and one in your room
> would give you a way of connecting router to the line.
Doesnt work like that, see my post. You could filter the main socket if everything came off it, but you cant connect another microfilter. You could run another cable from the modem to the microfilter. My friend uses his ADSL with no microfilter on the line, and then a microfilter near his PC which allows him to connect it. He only has the one socket downstairs, so for him this is his only way at the moment. If the phone rings he gets disconnected. He could get a long phone cable(RJ11) and run it to the main socket, but his dad cant be bothered to do it.
> Now looked at Borg's picture and read your post again, properly. What
> I said last would stand. Once the connection has been filtered
> everything else coming off of it is fine without a microfilter. So
> one at the main plug would do the filtering and one in your room
> would give you a way of connecting router to the line.
Doesnt work like that, see my post. You could filter the main socket if everything came off it, but you cant connect another microfilter. You could run another cable from the modem to the microfilter. My friend uses his ADSL with no microfilter on the line, and then a microfilter near his PC which allows him to connect it. He only has the one socket downstairs, so for him this is his only way at the moment. If the phone rings he gets disconnected. He could get a long phone cable(RJ11) and run it to the main socket, but his dad cant be bothered to do it.
theborg wrote:
> I think this is your only option
> http://www.aowi52.dsl.pipex.com/Image1.jpg
That does NOT work. My friend had a similar situation as they have everything from just one socket. He put a microfilter on the socket and then put another microfilter to connect the ADSL near the PC, so 2 microfilters on the same cable. The modem will NOT sync and therefore you will get NO connection. Its ok if you have them on different sockets but you can not have more than one microfilter on the same cable.
The solution would be to get a phone socket in your room or to run the ADSL cable from your parents room. A ADSL cable is basically a phone cable(RJ11) so you might have a long cable around somewhere or you may have to go and get one.
> I think this is your only option
> http://www.aowi52.dsl.pipex.com/Image1.jpg
That does NOT work. My friend had a similar situation as they have everything from just one socket. He put a microfilter on the socket and then put another microfilter to connect the ADSL near the PC, so 2 microfilters on the same cable. The modem will NOT sync and therefore you will get NO connection. Its ok if you have them on different sockets but you can not have more than one microfilter on the same cable.
The solution would be to get a phone socket in your room or to run the ADSL cable from your parents room. A ADSL cable is basically a phone cable(RJ11) so you might have a long cable around somewhere or you may have to go and get one.
Now looked at Borg's picture and read your post again, properly. What I said last would stand. Once the connection has been filtered everything else coming off of it is fine without a microfilter. So one at the main plug would do the filtering and one in your room would give you a way of connecting router to the line.
You ordered two microfilters yeah? So plug one in at the main socket like I said and the second one in at the end of the extension going into your room.
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