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Sun 28/12/03 at 21:34
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I've recently ordered Broadband and will have my connection enabled on Monday. I ordered an external ADSL Modem/Router 4 Ethernet Port/USB with two microfilters.
My problem is the microfilters. I need one on every live phone connection in the house right? So one downstairs and one up stairs. The problem comes when the phone upstairs is located in my parents room and the PC that will be getting broadband is in my room. Currently there is an extension lead that runs into my room that has a phone and a 56K modem connected.
Would I need two microfilters? One in my parents room with the phone and extension connected and then one on the end of the extension (which is in my room) with a phone connected? That means I'll need one more microfilter (three in total incl. downstairs).
Im going to order an extra one if so. In the meantime I'll disconnect the phone in my parents room and just put the microfilter on the end of the extension lead (located in my room) with the phone connected, just to check whether the connection is working, would this work?

A lot of questions there I know!, but your help is greatly appreciated. Cheers guys.
Thu 01/01/04 at 11:48
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What is the make and model of the router/modem and what windows version? Without this information it is all just guesswork and conjecture.

the borg
Thu 01/01/04 at 10:58
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"Jim Jam Jim"
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Drazen wrote:
> I thought that. Its definately a modem router. It looks for a
> connection as soon as I enter Windows, the little box appears in the
> status bar etc. but as I am not connected with the wire yet I cant
> actually get online; or to check whether my line has been activated.
>
> The situation with my old modem is that in the properties for my
> dial-up connection that I setup (as told in the SR user guide). It
> dials using my old 56k modem and not the modem router, and there
> seems to be no way I can change this!?!
>
> Im going to connect it to my PS2 soon hopefully. Just have to wait
> for all the bits and pieces to arrive.

When you say "little box appears" is that the two little monitor type icons that appear when your connected to a network or the internet? If so that is your connection, and you should not need to dial in. How do you configure the router then? Is it by a webpage layout(most router use this)? This dialing up business seems strange, as once the router is connected its basically like a network, so if the "little box" is actually the network card connected to the router then there should be no dialing up at all. Once all the settings are set in the router you should and wires in place, you should be able to turn on the PC and access the internet with no dialing.

So is the router connected via a network card? If it isnt then I dont think it could be a router, also have you got a few ports on the back of it to put in more network cables?

You can check to see whether your line is active as you should have a LED somewhere on the router or modem that tells you that the line is in Sync, if the LED light is not on then you are not Synced and either have a problem at your end or the line is not active.
Thu 01/01/04 at 00:18
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adrian wrote:
> Seems strange you need to dial up to get connected when using a
> router. A router should store all information needed to connect. Are
> you sure you have a router and not just a modem that fits in the USB?

I thought that. Its definately a modem router. It looks for a connection as soon as I enter Windows, the little box appears in the status bar etc. but as I am not connected with the wire yet I cant actually get online; or to check whether my line has been activated.

The situation with my old modem is that in the properties for my dial-up connection that I setup (as told in the SR user guide). It dials using my old 56k modem and not the modem router, and there seems to be no way I can change this!?!

> A router is good if you need to share the connection with more than one PC as its always on as the router stays connected even if there is no PC or device using it.

Im going to connect it to my PS2 soon hopefully. Just have to wait for all the bits and pieces to arrive.
Wed 31/12/03 at 23:33
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"Jim Jam Jim"
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Seems strange you need to dial up to get connected when using a router. A router should store all information needed to connect. Are you sure you have a router and not just a modem that fits in the USB? A modem still needs to be dialled on ADSL as its the way windows deals with it. You dont actual dial up in the sense of a 56K modem, but if your on a modem you do need to do it every time you want to connect. I use a USB modem so as soon as the PC is switched on I connect and then it stays connected til I turn the PC off. A router is good if you need to share the connection with more than one PC as its always on as the router stays connected even if there is no PC or device using it.
Wed 31/12/03 at 20:04
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GWD wrote:
> You could possibly be in the same situation as me. My broadband
> connection should have been available from 29/12/3 but it seems
> entanet (used by freeola) are on their Xmas hols this week so aren't
> around to finish things off!

Yes, the 29th was my connection date too, but my Direct Debit payments might not be in place due to the chrsitmas post etc.!

> My internet connection is behaving just like yours. Does your router have the ready and wan lights flashing continuously?

Yep. However, I dont have it connected as the RJ11 wire ain't long enough. I've ordered one though, should be here soon.

> As far as I can find out when the router connects to the ISP (when freeola/entanet/bt finsh) the modem will no longer try to dial and you will 'connect' immediately.

Cheers, it dials my old modem though and not the router/modem... I'll see once its all connected etc.
Post in here if you could when you get your connection so I know when its ready. Cheers GWD. Happy new year! :)
Wed 31/12/03 at 12:17
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Drazen wrote:
> One other thing, in the Guide to setting up the connection for
> Broadband with XP, the guide from SR tells me to setup a dial-up
> connection that dials any old number just so it dials something to
> make a connection (using my sr ID and password), however, when I do
> this it tries to dial using my 56k modem and not the attached
> modem/router thingy! Should I uninstall my old modem? When setting
> it up it doesn't ask what modem to use, it just selects the 56k one
> for me and I cant change it, just configure it, which does nothing.
> Thanks for the help guys...

You could possibly be in the same situation as me. My broadband connection should have been available from 29/12/3 but it seems entanet (used by freeola) are on their Xmas hols this week so aren't around to finish things off! My internet connection is behaving just like yours. Does your router have the ready and wan lights flashing continuously ? As far as I can find out when the router connects to the ISP (when freeola/entanet/bt finsh) the modem will no longer try to dial and you will 'connect' immediately.

Not what I call "customer service"!
Wed 31/12/03 at 01:16
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I ordered a modem lead after, it'll stretch from the socket in my parents room around to the router in my room. I end up with the microfilter on the main outlet, an extension lead for my phone off the one socket and the modem lead off the other socket. Should work, just have to wait for my lead to turn up before I can check!

One other thing, in the Guide to setting up the connection for Broadband with XP, the guide from SR tells me to setup a dial-up connection that dials any old number just so it dials something to make a connection (using my sr ID and password), however, when I do this it tries to dial using my 56k modem and not the attached modem/router thingy! Should I uninstall my old modem? When setting it up it doesn't ask what modem to use, it just selects the 56k one for me and I cant change it, just configure it, which does nothing. Thanks for the help guys...
Mon 29/12/03 at 23:17
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"Jim Jam Jim"
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theborg wrote:
> true,
>
> but I have enough cables running around my house. I recently had to
> go wireless because of this.

Cables are annoying. Cant wait till DVD players, consoles etc are all wireless.
Mon 29/12/03 at 23:10
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true,

but I have enough cables running around my house. I recently had to go wireless because of this.

the borg
Mon 29/12/03 at 22:44
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"Jim Jam Jim"
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theborg wrote:
> Upstairs - filter, parents telephone comes
> off telephone side of filter. Extention to computer room comes off
> data side. Filter. Telephone & modem come off telephone side, dsl
> modem data side.

If I think I know what your trying to say then that could work, actually it probably will work. When my friend had 2 filters on his line he was using the phone side of the connection in both cases. But as you have said if you use the data connection on the first filter for the extension cable then its unfiltered and so another mircofilter could be fitted. But for the trouble you might as well get a long RJ11 cable and save the trouble of getting an extra microfilter.

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