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This would mean a lot to me if people could tell me this, as it could be the cause of my entire PC problem. :D
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Alexrose1uk wrote:
> I'm asking as I remember thinking at the time that the 165Watt suply
> that comes with the barebone kit seemed feeble.
Probably is. I dont know what sort of supply you need as it depends on hardware. If you have a newish processor I am sure that 300Watt would be recommend. What graphics card do you have? As I think all new Radeon cards need 300Watt minimum. I have 460Watt, which maybe overkill but at least I can run my XP2800, Radeon 9800 Pro, 2 hard disks etc fine.
> I'm asking as I remember thinking at the time that the 165Watt suply
> that comes with the barebone kit seemed feeble.
Probably is. I dont know what sort of supply you need as it depends on hardware. If you have a newish processor I am sure that 300Watt would be recommend. What graphics card do you have? As I think all new Radeon cards need 300Watt minimum. I have 460Watt, which maybe overkill but at least I can run my XP2800, Radeon 9800 Pro, 2 hard disks etc fine.
Oh, by the way, the barebone kit is a Micro-ATX case and motherboard.... small...
I'm asking as I remember thinking at the time that the 165Watt suply that comes with the barebone kit seemed feeble.
Bonus wrote:
> It's not necesserily a heat problem, there could be anything wrong
> with it, however, if it was a CPU/memory/motherboard fault, it would
> reset the system, it would cause blue screen crashes, corrupted
> install files and all that sort of stuff.
>
> Resetting could be cpu overheating, but that too is unlikely if the
> computer still crashes when sitting idle.
Well, I've had blue screen crashes, etc and the ram isn't a suspect as it runs fine in another computer.
Oh, and what size power supply do you reckon I should have/is best?
> It's not necesserily a heat problem, there could be anything wrong
> with it, however, if it was a CPU/memory/motherboard fault, it would
> reset the system, it would cause blue screen crashes, corrupted
> install files and all that sort of stuff.
>
> Resetting could be cpu overheating, but that too is unlikely if the
> computer still crashes when sitting idle.
Well, I've had blue screen crashes, etc and the ram isn't a suspect as it runs fine in another computer.
Oh, and what size power supply do you reckon I should have/is best?
It's not necesserily a heat problem, there could be anything wrong with it, however, if it was a CPU/memory/motherboard fault, it would reset the system, it would cause blue screen crashes, corrupted install files and all that sort of stuff.
Resetting could be cpu overheating, but that too is unlikely if the computer still crashes when sitting idle.
Try sitting the computer at a DOS prompt and see if it dies.
You can't guess with these things, the only way to fix it is a process of trial and error until you find out exactly whatis wrong, might even be something stupid like not having a high enough rating of power supply, that would cause a reset if you tried to get the hardware to do multiple things at once, i.e. read from a CD drive, hard drive run the CPU and graphics card all at once, you wouldn't even be able to install windows ;)
Just a thought, but you neevr know, take it to someone who knows what they are doing and get them to test the individual components in another system, or test their own working components in your system one at a time, starting with the power suplly :D
Resetting could be cpu overheating, but that too is unlikely if the computer still crashes when sitting idle.
Try sitting the computer at a DOS prompt and see if it dies.
You can't guess with these things, the only way to fix it is a process of trial and error until you find out exactly whatis wrong, might even be something stupid like not having a high enough rating of power supply, that would cause a reset if you tried to get the hardware to do multiple things at once, i.e. read from a CD drive, hard drive run the CPU and graphics card all at once, you wouldn't even be able to install windows ;)
Just a thought, but you neevr know, take it to someone who knows what they are doing and get them to test the individual components in another system, or test their own working components in your system one at a time, starting with the power suplly :D
Thanks, AMD Man, we think it's the motherboard too, as the Ram is running fine on another PC.
Turbonutter wrote:
> Er no... it's just a nice way to see how hot your CPU is. If your
> heatsink burns you then it's overheating. It's unlikely to be even
> above 90c.
Indeed - if the heatsink is too hot to touch for extended periods then it's running hot, but not dangerously so. If it scoulds your finger then there's your problem :O)
> Er no... it's just a nice way to see how hot your CPU is. If your
> heatsink burns you then it's overheating. It's unlikely to be even
> above 90c.
Indeed - if the heatsink is too hot to touch for extended periods then it's running hot, but not dangerously so. If it scoulds your finger then there's your problem :O)
He has a point, and also it works the otherway if the cpu is hot but the heatsink is not then it is not sitting on the cpu properly to transfer the heat.
Colin
Colin
phi11ip wrote:
> Turbonutter wrote:
> Sounds like either your CPU (most likely) or RAM is overheating. Can
> you touch your heatsink to see if it burns you?
>
> Ha! Nice way to test, melt your hand to the PC...
Er no... it's just a nice way to see how hot your CPU is. If your heatsink burns you then it's overheating. It's unlikely to be even above 90c.
> Turbonutter wrote:
> Sounds like either your CPU (most likely) or RAM is overheating. Can
> you touch your heatsink to see if it burns you?
>
> Ha! Nice way to test, melt your hand to the PC...
Er no... it's just a nice way to see how hot your CPU is. If your heatsink burns you then it's overheating. It's unlikely to be even above 90c.
The thing about P4 chips is when they start to overheat it's starts to thermal throttle which means you will get extreme poor performance first unless you motherboard is set to restart or shutdown at a certain temperature, I would definalty go for either memory or motherboard, Just in cas emake sure the Cpu Heatsink is fitted properly and all temps are o.k. (a good temp for that chip would be not over 60 degrees under load as most p4's thermal throttle at 63 degrees) Do you have anymore memory you can use in the system to make sure it's the motherboard, ( as a proffesional guess i would go for a faulty motherboard).
Colin
Colin
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