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If you had to pick a single Nintendo gaming moment what would it be?
The moment you first turned on Mario 64?
Riding Yoshi in Super Mario World?
Capturing your first Pokemon in Pokemon Blue?
Breaking into Hyrule Castle in Ocarina of Time?
Managing to nip past all 3 competitors at the final bit in Mario Kart?
Fantastic moments I'm sure you'll agree. But are Nintendo proposing to get rid of them? Lower production values, simpler games, quicker releases. Fresh, innovative, clever yes, these are the types of game Nintendo are proposing. Think Wario Ware, think Four Swords... think Jungle Beat.
There's no denying that all 3 of those games are superb. Fantastic, enjoyable and of course they have the added "pick up and play" factor.
But as great as they are, they don't quite create the powerful memories of the real legendary Nintendo games.
Are Nintendo proposing to get rid of them? This simple new game style to see to the mass market. To be honest I'd rather Nintendo stuck with their niche following.
Some people may argue that the Gamecube lacks the power of previous Nintendo systems. But I flatly disagree. Floating around the Deku tree in Wind Waker, racing around on a Blooper in Mario Sunshine, getting all the treasure in Pikmin 2, fighting in Glitzville in Paper Mario and those meaty gun fights in Metroid Prime. All of these are fantastic Nintendo related memories. And I'm expecting a load more where they came from with the new Zelda and Pokemon XD titles.
I guess all I can base my assumptions on is the new Nintendo DS and I am not overly optimistic. The Nintendo DS' wonder titles include PacPix, Yoshi's Touch and Go, Touch! Kirby and Wario Ware. Games that displays the future of Nintendo. Super Mario 64: DS will be one of a series of games that buck the trend, but does it live up to its predecessor? Does Nintendo's new "control method" damage the oppertunity for the "Nintendo epic".
Admit it, that's why we stick with Nintendo. We can live with the barren spells, the poor third party support and the lack of online support. As long as we get our Mario, Pokemon, Metroid or Zelda then we'll be fine.
My faith in Nintendo, as Die Hard as I am, began to waver slightly this time last year. Harvest Moon was the only real game to shout about from the first 6 months. But when October arrived that all changed. Pikmin 2, Paper Mario 2 and Metroid Prime 2. I have yet to play the latter as much as I'd like but I have finished the other 2. And they were fantastic, epic, enjoyable, amusing, sad but most of all... fantastic.
Faith restored.
Come the first 6 months of this year and, Resident Evil aside (not a Nintendo game anyway) and I feel I've been slapped in the face. There was no denying the fun involved in Four Swords and Jungle Beat but come on! Mario Power Tennis has no depth whatsoever and Starfox Assault is just a let down. Mario Tennis and Golf this year was clearly evident of lazy developing, nothing new, nothing fresh and where was the depth? No wonder Mario Kart and Smash Brothers repeatidly outshine them both in sales and playability. Nintendo and Hal can make a good Mario spin off. Camelot are becoming increasingly shallow. Stick to Golden Sun.
Nintendo never used to make these shallow games. Under genius and scary head Hiroshi Yamauchi all Nintendo games took ages to make. He was the reason there were tonnes of delays, he is the reason Nintendo games were released so slowly. But he was also the reason that the NES, SNES and N64 recieved so many classics. He is the reason we love Nintendo.
Are Nintendo now threatening to go the other way? I can deal with short/sweet games, some can be incredibly fun (as mentioned, Jungle Beat, Four Swords and Wario Ware) but I cannot agree with removing my Zelda's and my Mario's. Imagine a day when Pokemon was just a simple RPG scraper, or the main Zelda series is Four Swords or that Mario was forever proping up ever other franchise under the sun.
I'm not talking about deserting the company I love. I'm just worried that the "Nintendo Epic" is becoming extinct. They certainly don't fit in with Nintendo's new Philosophy.
Then again are Nintendo really ready to ruin their fanbase? The upcoming Zelda epic proves that maybe Nintendo are not willing to destroy their fanbase. I mean it is slightly hypocritical that Nintendo are talking about simple games whilst harping on about their new epic Zelda title. Are these games for the hardcore? And if so will they continue to come?
It would be nice, if once in a while, whilst harping on about the "simple" games that will appeal to the mass market... that Nintendo should tell their fans that "don't worry, you'll still get the games you love as well".
I know it'd make me feel better.
Dringo.
The moment you first turned on Mario 64?
Riding Yoshi in Super Mario World?
Capturing your first Pokemon in Pokemon Blue?
Breaking into Hyrule Castle in Ocarina of Time?
Managing to nip past all 3 competitors at the final bit in Mario Kart?
Fantastic moments I'm sure you'll agree. But are Nintendo proposing to get rid of them? Lower production values, simpler games, quicker releases. Fresh, innovative, clever yes, these are the types of game Nintendo are proposing. Think Wario Ware, think Four Swords... think Jungle Beat.
There's no denying that all 3 of those games are superb. Fantastic, enjoyable and of course they have the added "pick up and play" factor.
But as great as they are, they don't quite create the powerful memories of the real legendary Nintendo games.
Are Nintendo proposing to get rid of them? This simple new game style to see to the mass market. To be honest I'd rather Nintendo stuck with their niche following.
Some people may argue that the Gamecube lacks the power of previous Nintendo systems. But I flatly disagree. Floating around the Deku tree in Wind Waker, racing around on a Blooper in Mario Sunshine, getting all the treasure in Pikmin 2, fighting in Glitzville in Paper Mario and those meaty gun fights in Metroid Prime. All of these are fantastic Nintendo related memories. And I'm expecting a load more where they came from with the new Zelda and Pokemon XD titles.
I guess all I can base my assumptions on is the new Nintendo DS and I am not overly optimistic. The Nintendo DS' wonder titles include PacPix, Yoshi's Touch and Go, Touch! Kirby and Wario Ware. Games that displays the future of Nintendo. Super Mario 64: DS will be one of a series of games that buck the trend, but does it live up to its predecessor? Does Nintendo's new "control method" damage the oppertunity for the "Nintendo epic".
Admit it, that's why we stick with Nintendo. We can live with the barren spells, the poor third party support and the lack of online support. As long as we get our Mario, Pokemon, Metroid or Zelda then we'll be fine.
My faith in Nintendo, as Die Hard as I am, began to waver slightly this time last year. Harvest Moon was the only real game to shout about from the first 6 months. But when October arrived that all changed. Pikmin 2, Paper Mario 2 and Metroid Prime 2. I have yet to play the latter as much as I'd like but I have finished the other 2. And they were fantastic, epic, enjoyable, amusing, sad but most of all... fantastic.
Faith restored.
Come the first 6 months of this year and, Resident Evil aside (not a Nintendo game anyway) and I feel I've been slapped in the face. There was no denying the fun involved in Four Swords and Jungle Beat but come on! Mario Power Tennis has no depth whatsoever and Starfox Assault is just a let down. Mario Tennis and Golf this year was clearly evident of lazy developing, nothing new, nothing fresh and where was the depth? No wonder Mario Kart and Smash Brothers repeatidly outshine them both in sales and playability. Nintendo and Hal can make a good Mario spin off. Camelot are becoming increasingly shallow. Stick to Golden Sun.
Nintendo never used to make these shallow games. Under genius and scary head Hiroshi Yamauchi all Nintendo games took ages to make. He was the reason there were tonnes of delays, he is the reason Nintendo games were released so slowly. But he was also the reason that the NES, SNES and N64 recieved so many classics. He is the reason we love Nintendo.
Are Nintendo now threatening to go the other way? I can deal with short/sweet games, some can be incredibly fun (as mentioned, Jungle Beat, Four Swords and Wario Ware) but I cannot agree with removing my Zelda's and my Mario's. Imagine a day when Pokemon was just a simple RPG scraper, or the main Zelda series is Four Swords or that Mario was forever proping up ever other franchise under the sun.
I'm not talking about deserting the company I love. I'm just worried that the "Nintendo Epic" is becoming extinct. They certainly don't fit in with Nintendo's new Philosophy.
Then again are Nintendo really ready to ruin their fanbase? The upcoming Zelda epic proves that maybe Nintendo are not willing to destroy their fanbase. I mean it is slightly hypocritical that Nintendo are talking about simple games whilst harping on about their new epic Zelda title. Are these games for the hardcore? And if so will they continue to come?
It would be nice, if once in a while, whilst harping on about the "simple" games that will appeal to the mass market... that Nintendo should tell their fans that "don't worry, you'll still get the games you love as well".
I know it'd make me feel better.
Dringo.
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I liked South Park. Although hardly my favourite games.
Personally I believe Metroid Prime, Wind Waker and Sunshine had their fair share of moments (and I've had some fantastic multiplayer ones in Mario Kart).
The unsung hero's in Paper Mario 2 and Pikmin 2 are the ones that make me smile everytime.
I just hope they're still coming.
Personally I believe Metroid Prime, Wind Waker and Sunshine had their fair share of moments (and I've had some fantastic multiplayer ones in Mario Kart).
The unsung hero's in Paper Mario 2 and Pikmin 2 are the ones that make me smile everytime.
I just hope they're still coming.
well yes, true. At least he's played these games enough to form an opinion of them. Well ok the list is probably
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gerrid wrote:
> Urg. I think you've probably dropped below Macintosh in this forum's
> estimation.
Not quite, that would be very hard to do.
> Urg. I think you've probably dropped below Macintosh in this forum's
> estimation.
Not quite, that would be very hard to do.
South Park was utter balls. How you can even think of including it above the myriad of wonderful games on the N64 is beyond me. You don't even have OOT in that list, yet you have Pokemon Colliseum, which was hardly a game at all, and SOUTH PARK.
Urg. I think you've probably dropped below Macintosh in this forum's estimation.
Urg. I think you've probably dropped below Macintosh in this forum's estimation.
*spits on mozzy*
Super Mario 64? Banjo-Kazooie? Ocarina of Time? And South Park's crap.
Super Mario 64? Banjo-Kazooie? Ocarina of Time? And South Park's crap.
My favorite Nintendo gaming moment has to be the N64 with the following games:
- Super Smash Bros
- Pokemon Stadium
- Goldeneye
- Conker
- South Park
Those games were so much fun when I was a kid playing with my kiddie mates.
- Super Smash Bros
- Pokemon Stadium
- Goldeneye
- Conker
- South Park
Those games were so much fun when I was a kid playing with my kiddie mates.
What Tilt said.
It wasn't just the console that made N64 it was the time it was around. For me back then I was when I was most into gaming, my friends were still into gaming as well so it meant I always had someone to play multiplayer.
N64 > All
N64 > All
N64 and SNES>> All other consoles
Ignoring online play.
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