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I am watching a documentary television show on Channel 4 right now called The Matrix Defence. It is about how some individuals in America have taken it upon themselves to murder others. Later however it has been claimed that they comitted these murders due to being strong influence from the movie The Matrix.
I do believe that they have been influenced by The Matrix. I am not saying that The Matrix is to blame for the murders, I am not saying any of the cast or WB is responsible and so on however the people who have taken it upon themselves to murder others do have mental problems making them highly influencial so it is no surprise that when watching such a film they get murderous ideas in their heads.
Yes it is entirely their own fault but I do not think that their argument is entirely without merit. They have been influenced by this movie and therefore it is not entirely their own fault although I fully agree that it is their mental problems that are the root of the problem and not the movies.
Anyway that is my view on the subject, how about you?
I do believe that they have been influenced by The Matrix. I am not saying that The Matrix is to blame for the murders, I am not saying any of the cast or WB is responsible and so on however the people who have taken it upon themselves to murder others do have mental problems making them highly influencial so it is no surprise that when watching such a film they get murderous ideas in their heads.
Yes it is entirely their own fault but I do not think that their argument is entirely without merit. They have been influenced by this movie and therefore it is not entirely their own fault although I fully agree that it is their mental problems that are the root of the problem and not the movies.
Anyway that is my view on the subject, how about you?
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Insane Bartender wrote:
> BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
>
> By the same token, surely anyone who watched that Roddy Piper film
> about aliens that could only be seen by wearing a certain pair of
> shades should be stalking about killing people they suspect of being
> invading alien serpents from another galaxy?
"They Live"
Ha ha, I've seen this a few times. It's so rubbish. They're more like skeleton people too.
Fact is, violence has been around since before TV and cinema, so how can that be to blame for murder?
> BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
>
> By the same token, surely anyone who watched that Roddy Piper film
> about aliens that could only be seen by wearing a certain pair of
> shades should be stalking about killing people they suspect of being
> invading alien serpents from another galaxy?
"They Live"
Ha ha, I've seen this a few times. It's so rubbish. They're more like skeleton people too.
Fact is, violence has been around since before TV and cinema, so how can that be to blame for murder?
You could say that of any film though.
Hulk - go about smashing things.
Terminator - kill lots of people
American Psycho - chase people with chainsaws and hack them up with axes. Confess everything to your lawyer only to begin questioning if it was all real.
Black Hawk Down - screw up simple things, run about the streets for a few hours killing anything that moves.
We Were Soldiers - pointlessly fire bullets at swathes of Asians without adding any rationality or plot behind the entire ninety minutes you do it for.
I could go on...
Hulk - go about smashing things.
Terminator - kill lots of people
American Psycho - chase people with chainsaws and hack them up with axes. Confess everything to your lawyer only to begin questioning if it was all real.
Black Hawk Down - screw up simple things, run about the streets for a few hours killing anything that moves.
We Were Soldiers - pointlessly fire bullets at swathes of Asians without adding any rationality or plot behind the entire ninety minutes you do it for.
I could go on...
ßulle††™ wrote:
> Last thing I can remember, they only killed the bad guys
They do kill loads of police officers and so on remember who have done nothing but uphold the law in this virtual world. That is an example of killing random innocents to achieve their goals whether it is when they are trying to get to Morpheus in The Matrix or trying to shut down the powerplants in Reloaded.
> It's pathetic how someone can blame a movie/game/song etc. They're
> the ones with the warped minds and the stupidity to actually pull a
> murder off.
I really don't think it is pathetic. Obviously you are bias though because you like so many others on this site love games and don't like people talking bad of them. However you must admit that many of the games you play have EXTREMELY violent and controversial content and if someone does have a mental problem then it is entirely possible that the games have influenced them to do violent acts. They are not directly responsible however they do play some part in it you can not deny.
> Last thing I can remember, they only killed the bad guys
They do kill loads of police officers and so on remember who have done nothing but uphold the law in this virtual world. That is an example of killing random innocents to achieve their goals whether it is when they are trying to get to Morpheus in The Matrix or trying to shut down the powerplants in Reloaded.
> It's pathetic how someone can blame a movie/game/song etc. They're
> the ones with the warped minds and the stupidity to actually pull a
> murder off.
I really don't think it is pathetic. Obviously you are bias though because you like so many others on this site love games and don't like people talking bad of them. However you must admit that many of the games you play have EXTREMELY violent and controversial content and if someone does have a mental problem then it is entirely possible that the games have influenced them to do violent acts. They are not directly responsible however they do play some part in it you can not deny.
I think what we have to take into account is that they are NOT saying The Matrix is responsible for the violence. They are saying that it has influenced them to commit the violent acts which I agree is entirely possible. Surely when you were a child you watched T.V. shows and believed at least some of what you saw was real? I myself tried to write to Sesame Street as I thought it was all real lol. What they are saying is that these people have mental illnesses that make them as influential as children and as The Matrix is such a spectacular film it is no surprise that they like it a lot, ca become obssessed with it and even influenced to commit murders.
To repeat, they are NOT saying The Matrix is the cause of violence because obviously if it was we would all be going out killing each other. However in special circumstances in which someone watches it who has mental problems then it is entirely possible for them to be influenced and to go out and kill some one.
To repeat, they are NOT saying The Matrix is the cause of violence because obviously if it was we would all be going out killing each other. However in special circumstances in which someone watches it who has mental problems then it is entirely possible for them to be influenced and to go out and kill some one.
Fudge. I missed it.
I wanted to see what kind of fat Matrix-loving Uber geeks were on the programme. Never mind, I'm sure it'll be repeated one day.
I wanted to see what kind of fat Matrix-loving Uber geeks were on the programme. Never mind, I'm sure it'll be repeated one day.
Insane Bartender wrote:
> BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
>
> By the same token, surely anyone who watched that Roddy Piper film
> about aliens that could only be seen by wearing a certain pair of
> shades should be stalking about killing people they suspect of being
> invading alien serpents from another galaxy?
Ha, at least that could be slightly more plausible.
> BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
>
> By the same token, surely anyone who watched that Roddy Piper film
> about aliens that could only be seen by wearing a certain pair of
> shades should be stalking about killing people they suspect of being
> invading alien serpents from another galaxy?
Ha, at least that could be slightly more plausible.
I know, in the mag I read, one quote said 'the characters in the matrix just go around this virtual world killing random people.' Last thing I can remember, they only killed the bad guys and have the agents a kicking most of the time, only killing the agents now and again.
It's pathetic how someone can blame a movie/game/song etc. They're the ones with the warped minds and the stupidity to actually pull a murder off.
It's pathetic how someone can blame a movie/game/song etc. They're the ones with the warped minds and the stupidity to actually pull a murder off.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
By the same token, surely anyone who watched that Roddy Piper film about aliens that could only be seen by wearing a certain pair of shades should be stalking about killing people they suspect of being invading alien serpents from another galaxy?
By the same token, surely anyone who watched that Roddy Piper film about aliens that could only be seen by wearing a certain pair of shades should be stalking about killing people they suspect of being invading alien serpents from another galaxy?
I thought it was laughable, the defence lawyer of the first one concocted a c×ck-and-bull story about they guy thinking he was in the matrix, even though he clearly knew he was not.
The second murderer concocted the story herself but didnt really seem to understand what the matrix was about. "A gang of people go about committing crimes" Were we watching the same film here?
The second murderer concocted the story herself but didnt really seem to understand what the matrix was about. "A gang of people go about committing crimes" Were we watching the same film here?
Cubist wrote:
> Yes it is entirely their own fault but I do not think that their
> argument is entirely without merit. They have been influenced by this
> movie and therefore it is not entirely their own fault although I
> fully agree that it is their mental problems that are the root of the
> problem and not the movies.
You contradicted yourself in that paragraph, but I know where you're coming from!
Was that the program covereing that kid who went into his basement where his parents were and shot them both with a shotgun? Saw that in a mag the other day. There was also another I think, but I don't know the full details of that one.
IMO, they are 100% f*ckwits with no social life, a bit of a mental problem, who blame some form of entertainment when they get caught - to try and get leniency on their sentence. It's these people who need to be given the death sentence.
Was it any good then, that program?
> Yes it is entirely their own fault but I do not think that their
> argument is entirely without merit. They have been influenced by this
> movie and therefore it is not entirely their own fault although I
> fully agree that it is their mental problems that are the root of the
> problem and not the movies.
You contradicted yourself in that paragraph, but I know where you're coming from!
Was that the program covereing that kid who went into his basement where his parents were and shot them both with a shotgun? Saw that in a mag the other day. There was also another I think, but I don't know the full details of that one.
IMO, they are 100% f*ckwits with no social life, a bit of a mental problem, who blame some form of entertainment when they get caught - to try and get leniency on their sentence. It's these people who need to be given the death sentence.
Was it any good then, that program?
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