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Any of you that download films from Kazaa/Kazaa-Lite, a friend who lives round the corner, and is on BT Broadband got a rather nasty letter from them saying they had been contacted by an American company. In it were instructions to immediately cease all activities of a 'thieving gypsy' nature (words added for effect :D), otherwise they would take out legal proceedings against him.
The film in question was T3 : Rise of the Machines.
On the letter they had such information as IP address, kazaa username, and dates and times the data was downloaded.
I myself rarely download films, although I do download a lot of music.
Just thought I'd warn you all, I'm off to unshare all my media folders now .....
The film in question was T3 : Rise of the Machines.
On the letter they had such information as IP address, kazaa username, and dates and times the data was downloaded.
I myself rarely download films, although I do download a lot of music.
Just thought I'd warn you all, I'm off to unshare all my media folders now .....
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I haven't bought a CD single in 5 years, and I haven't bought a CD album in at least 2.
Why bother? It's all pants with the rare exception, and why should I support an aged and obsolete format that only squeezes 20 tracks on a CD that could otherwise easily handle over 100?
Personally, I think the current medium for purchasing music is wholly redundant, and the market needs to evolve to take account of modern technology. The music industry is dying for two reasons:
1) The music out is mostly the same, manufactured and regurgitated crap, causing a stagnant feel to what we're hearing day in, day out.
2) In days where we can walk around with mobile phones capable of connecting to the internet and downloading music, why, OH WHY do we not have an official piece of hardware with re-writable storage which connects to the internet and downloads files from official sources as standard equipment?
CDs take up too much space. Music is no longer a collectable item, as digital formats are for more usable and dynamic. And until the music industry realises that continuing to sell single CDs at £4 each it will continue to struggle.
Personally, though, I'm not overly bothered. Music is n longer the epicentre of my existence, and for all I care, the whole industry can just implode. If nothing else, I won't have to read about as many 'celebrities' and what they've been wearing all week.
Why bother? It's all pants with the rare exception, and why should I support an aged and obsolete format that only squeezes 20 tracks on a CD that could otherwise easily handle over 100?
Personally, I think the current medium for purchasing music is wholly redundant, and the market needs to evolve to take account of modern technology. The music industry is dying for two reasons:
1) The music out is mostly the same, manufactured and regurgitated crap, causing a stagnant feel to what we're hearing day in, day out.
2) In days where we can walk around with mobile phones capable of connecting to the internet and downloading music, why, OH WHY do we not have an official piece of hardware with re-writable storage which connects to the internet and downloads files from official sources as standard equipment?
CDs take up too much space. Music is no longer a collectable item, as digital formats are for more usable and dynamic. And until the music industry realises that continuing to sell single CDs at £4 each it will continue to struggle.
Personally, though, I'm not overly bothered. Music is n longer the epicentre of my existence, and for all I care, the whole industry can just implode. If nothing else, I won't have to read about as many 'celebrities' and what they've been wearing all week.
WòókieeMøn§†€® wrote:
> What's REALLY killing the music industry is the fact that 95% of the
> "artists" are utter sh|t!
Yep, I hear that. Sad as it is, I like pop music (not all of it I hasten to add) and I HATE all this rap/garage type crap. Yet until recently it's the kind of music that's dominated the charts, so I've bought nothing, instead I've been buying Jpop from abroad and anime stuff (again from abroad). Spent quite a bit, but not a penny has gone into the "industry" (as in big US UK Record Companies).
Looking forward to the end of the year I'm going to be buying just 3 of the industry's albums and not singles at all anymore.
> What's REALLY killing the music industry is the fact that 95% of the
> "artists" are utter sh|t!
Yep, I hear that. Sad as it is, I like pop music (not all of it I hasten to add) and I HATE all this rap/garage type crap. Yet until recently it's the kind of music that's dominated the charts, so I've bought nothing, instead I've been buying Jpop from abroad and anime stuff (again from abroad). Spent quite a bit, but not a penny has gone into the "industry" (as in big US UK Record Companies).
Looking forward to the end of the year I'm going to be buying just 3 of the industry's albums and not singles at all anymore.
WòókieeMøn§†€® wrote:
> What's REALLY killing the music industry is the fact that 95% of the
> "artists" are utter sh|t!
Heheh, I agree. But they just don't seem to understand that!
> What's REALLY killing the music industry is the fact that 95% of the
> "artists" are utter sh|t!
Heheh, I agree. But they just don't seem to understand that!
There will always be people who want something for nothing, but lower prices combined with global release dates would help reduce the number of people downloading - guaranteed.
I rarely try to download movies, as when I have they've always been something other than they claim to be. And usually the quality is utter toss (650MB for a full movie? No thanks!), and a 'proper' DVD image at 4.7GB takes too long, even on 600K broadband.
Music I do still download. Usually this is either an old track that can't be bought on general sale any more, or an album I'm not sure if I'll like. For example, I'm currently downloading the Obie Trice album. Then if I like it, I'll buy it (usually for £8.99 from CD-WOW); if I don't, I delete the files.
Technically I'm breaking the law with the music, but is anyone losing out? I don't think so.
I refuse to pay a regular fee to something like the RealOne service for something I'll only use once in the blue moon to listen to an occasional album (I don't buy that many CDs), and unfortunately you can't always get samples of an album over the net. And I'm not going to pay for an album that I might not like without hearing it first.
Anyway, I don't believe that piracy is killing music, especially when you hear the kind of money that people like J-Lo are worth.
What's REALLY killing the music industry is the fact that 95% of the "artists" are utter sh|t!
I rarely try to download movies, as when I have they've always been something other than they claim to be. And usually the quality is utter toss (650MB for a full movie? No thanks!), and a 'proper' DVD image at 4.7GB takes too long, even on 600K broadband.
Music I do still download. Usually this is either an old track that can't be bought on general sale any more, or an album I'm not sure if I'll like. For example, I'm currently downloading the Obie Trice album. Then if I like it, I'll buy it (usually for £8.99 from CD-WOW); if I don't, I delete the files.
Technically I'm breaking the law with the music, but is anyone losing out? I don't think so.
I refuse to pay a regular fee to something like the RealOne service for something I'll only use once in the blue moon to listen to an occasional album (I don't buy that many CDs), and unfortunately you can't always get samples of an album over the net. And I'm not going to pay for an album that I might not like without hearing it first.
Anyway, I don't believe that piracy is killing music, especially when you hear the kind of money that people like J-Lo are worth.
What's REALLY killing the music industry is the fact that 95% of the "artists" are utter sh|t!
My point was the RIAA etc aren't doing that though (and I'd be pretty sure they're not allowed to by their own guidelines) - the warnings that UK people have had have come about becasue of the distributor's own actions, not those of any third party.
Dr Gonzo wrote:
> adrian wrote:
> So really anything you
> download illegally off p2p could be monitored by the MPAA and RIAA
> who then send the information to the ISP who in turn warn you.
>
> It's actually the uploaders they go after IIRC. The distrubition
> companies search for their own movies and then go after the people
> making them availalbe. RIAA don't have any authority in the UK, all
> these letters come becasue of complains from Paramount, WB and the
> like who actually make and distribute the movies.
Yes mainly uploaders. But I bet that if they had there chance and got somebody that didnt upload but they could proved they were downloading lots of things they would soon be after them.
I know the MPAA and RIAA dont have any authority over here as they are American organisations, but they still can put pressure on the UK agencies to do there job and get your ISP to disconnect you. I dont think that there have been any cases like that at all, but a few people have been getting letters.
> adrian wrote:
> So really anything you
> download illegally off p2p could be monitored by the MPAA and RIAA
> who then send the information to the ISP who in turn warn you.
>
> It's actually the uploaders they go after IIRC. The distrubition
> companies search for their own movies and then go after the people
> making them availalbe. RIAA don't have any authority in the UK, all
> these letters come becasue of complains from Paramount, WB and the
> like who actually make and distribute the movies.
Yes mainly uploaders. But I bet that if they had there chance and got somebody that didnt upload but they could proved they were downloading lots of things they would soon be after them.
I know the MPAA and RIAA dont have any authority over here as they are American organisations, but they still can put pressure on the UK agencies to do there job and get your ISP to disconnect you. I dont think that there have been any cases like that at all, but a few people have been getting letters.
I'm not so sure. I have decided now is the time to stop, I think anyone with any brains should do likewise because the writings on the wall RE:downloading - better to stop now before anyone notices you than see how far you can push your luck isn't it ?
Company's don't really have time to mess with the 'odd downloader' - not in the UK anyways. They go after the people who distribute it in the first place.
*whistles*
So if you had a facility in which blocked IP addresses and *ahem* stuff you would be passed on in clear?
So if you had a facility in which blocked IP addresses and *ahem* stuff you would be passed on in clear?
Der Nazi wrote:
> A quick note: You cannot be penalised under the data protection act
> for downloading stuff from outside of the EU.
What would the Data Protection Act have to do with it anyway?
> A quick note: You cannot be penalised under the data protection act
> for downloading stuff from outside of the EU.
What would the Data Protection Act have to do with it anyway?
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