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Wed 22/10/03 at 22:38
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I was watching the news, a special report on a Shi-ite group in Iran.
One of them said (paraphrased) 'there are many of us willing to give our lives to prevent the American occupation of Iraq'.

And I felt admiration.
People with the balls to stand up.

I should probably qualify that by confirming that the only implication of harm was towards the American military.

But nonetheless, when I caught myself thinking that.. damn.
On reflection I feel like I shouldn't think this way. If I'm completely honest with myself I'm not sure whether I really do or not.

IMO, the American occupation does increasingly look like just another corrupt dictatorship, hanging onto power for as long as the international community will stand by watching.
I saw on the news that all over Iraq, oil production is at upwards of 90% of pre-war levels, while cities still lie in ruins and a population are left largely unaided as they try to get to their feet.

But even so...

Damn.

Maybe I've lost objectivity. Maybe I've been swept along with an overreacting media / public opinion.
Maybe I've come to realise that the evil is truely inherant in all sides, and I'm just yet to learn to balance for the lesser.
Or maybe that instinct was right.

I don't know anymore. And I don't know who to trust from the people who claim to know.
Thu 23/10/03 at 17:01
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Heh. I wouldn't disagree with that. Thing is, there is a lot to be disillusioned with. And abuse of the blind faith of idiots by both governments and anti-government types is going to lead to a lot more trouble in the world.
Thu 23/10/03 at 16:55
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Light wrote:
> Disillusioned?
> Cynical about the motives of those in power?
> Unwilling to be led by blind faith?
> Angry at the short-sightedness of government and their cheerleaders?

Sounds awfully like the Shi-ite person Dr Duck describes. apart from the blind faith part of course.
Thu 23/10/03 at 09:33
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"Wanking Mong"
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Disillusioned?
Cynical about the motives of those in power?
Unwilling to be led by blind faith?
Angry at the short-sightedness of government and their cheerleaders?

Heh. Welcome to my world...
Wed 22/10/03 at 23:03
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Yeah.

I hardly made any comments (if any at all) about the war because I didn't know what's what. EVERY source I read seemed to be stuffed to the gills with propaganda, from both sides.

And people lied and twisted truths.
The British government have been exposed with the "45 minute" claim among others but it wouldn't surprise me if arguments on both sides had been filled up with "little white lies" and half truths.

It's the same with drugs.
It's the same with GM foods.
It's the same with parlimentary elections.

The people in power seem to have lost sight of the main objective - do what's best.

Instead it seems to be "get into power by sticking to your point and do anything to make people believe you."

Politics is a popularity contest rather than a running the country job.
Just watch footage of Ian Duncan Smith's speeches at that conservative conference.

Yeah, there were SOME policies in there, but it was mostly about propaganda filled "heart felt speeches", saying things like "I can FEEL the pain of our people in this country!", and cheap shots at the opposing parties...

oh, and set up "standing ovations".



Anything I read, be it in the papers, on an internet site or even on here, I can never be sure of how true or twisted it is.


I don't actually have my own opinion on George Bush, I just hear what everyone else thinks. THe only thing I'm sure about is that he should have agreed to the Kyoto Protocol(I'm not sure if I've gotten the name right, it's the thing concerning environmental laws including cutting down on car usage).

It seems like I trust the New Scientist magazine.

Everything else I can't be sure about.



If the propaganda IS anything to go by though, perhaps the easiest way for a terrorist to control the West would be to get a job at a petrol station and work their way up until they were head of Esso...
Wed 22/10/03 at 22:38
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Posts: 8,220
I was watching the news, a special report on a Shi-ite group in Iran.
One of them said (paraphrased) 'there are many of us willing to give our lives to prevent the American occupation of Iraq'.

And I felt admiration.
People with the balls to stand up.

I should probably qualify that by confirming that the only implication of harm was towards the American military.

But nonetheless, when I caught myself thinking that.. damn.
On reflection I feel like I shouldn't think this way. If I'm completely honest with myself I'm not sure whether I really do or not.

IMO, the American occupation does increasingly look like just another corrupt dictatorship, hanging onto power for as long as the international community will stand by watching.
I saw on the news that all over Iraq, oil production is at upwards of 90% of pre-war levels, while cities still lie in ruins and a population are left largely unaided as they try to get to their feet.

But even so...

Damn.

Maybe I've lost objectivity. Maybe I've been swept along with an overreacting media / public opinion.
Maybe I've come to realise that the evil is truely inherant in all sides, and I'm just yet to learn to balance for the lesser.
Or maybe that instinct was right.

I don't know anymore. And I don't know who to trust from the people who claim to know.

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