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Mon 20/10/03 at 10:25
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Although I had low expectations when going to see this last night, I can however say that despite these misgivings, I still thought it was utter unadulterated toss.

I love his previous films as much as anybody, but what we have here is massive hype all because it’s from Tarantino, the man who’s brain has been sweating in it’s own pop culture loving juices ever since Jackie Brown, and for me it delivered very little. Despite the ravings from all the beardy wannabe film studies students about all the amazing qualities of the cinematography and the style he created, it still sucks big time *in my opinion*.

The script wasn’t anything amazing. A few cool lines here and there but not the barrage of cool and quotable lines we know and love from his previous films, and overall it just wasn’t a patch on his other things. There wasn’t even really a decent story created.
The fragmented chronology loved by QT and used so effectively in his previous films just didn’t work, seemed utterly pointless and even confusing as to why he bothered.
The movie as a whole was too bitty, and played out like a load of scenes cobbled together rather than a proper flowing movie, and it just lacked something.

Most of the film just played out in too much of a clichéd ham-fisted manner, whether this is intentional I don’t really care. The characters were totally 2 dimensional and also highly clichéd. The Bride goes to Japanese sword maker, two minutes later she has a mighty blade to vanquish the evil-doers. There was no real build up to that, she just went there, got the sword and that was it. No epic journey to find an amazing sword, it was just given to her.

The last battle of vol. 1 was also a big disappointment, we had The Bride battling through hoards of Yakuza minions, and the scene is set for an excellent grand finale. We enter the highly clichéd Japanese winter garden, where an epic duel should amaze and delight the filmgoers. But the fight was naff. Hardly the epic and amazing duel we should have expected from two so-called amazing warriors. Wolf from Gladiators had better fights when he bashed the hell out of plebs with his pugil-stick.

I love kung fu, I like on-screen violence, and I liked the atmosphere Tarantino created/stole, but the whole time I just felt he was lurking behind the camera, nodding and winking to fellow film nerds when he pays homage/rips off various old school kung fu bits, all the while believing he was the greatest kung fu director in history, when he clearly isn’t. The fight scenes were ok, nothing amazing though, especially if you’re used to watching many a kung fu film. Was the violence so OTT that it was done to make up for the lack of a decent movie? I think so.

QT has tried to do something different; he’s taken his maverick style and applied it to old kung fu genre and the crossover just failed. The characters were boring, the plot simple and uninspiring, the script disappointing and the action was nothing special. It’s just lazy filmmaking; take loads of classic ideas from the Kung Fu genre and stick them all together and serve it up to the masses. But because it’s from Tarantino we shouldn’t question it, we should just say, ”it’s cool”. I don’t agree.

The anime flashback bit was pretty good, though just because Tarantino likes a bit of anime doesn’t mean he should stick a 5-minute section slap bang into the middle of his film. It’s an interesting idea, but was just out of place and reeks of self-indulgence.

If you want to watch a decent kung fu film, there’s plenty on offer, from cheesy ones to ultra violent ones, and if you want to watch a decent revenge flick, then watch Point Blank or, heck, even Commando.

I’m sure the movie-going masses enjoyed it, as they tend to lap up everything thrown at them nowadays, especially if it has any type of kung fu in it, but this viewer was disappointed he’d wasted £6 and had to bother venturing out on a cold Sunday evening for two hours of overrated pap. My brother went with an open mind, and he hated it too, and he’d wasted £6 and some petrol.
Style over substance, self-indulgence from a director, lots of blood and limbs being chopped off doesn’t make a film great, and how people could call this the best film of the year is insulting to the other great films released this year.

I’ll still go and see volume 2, purely because Michael Madsen will feature, and may be good in it, and there’s the hope that it surely can't be worse than volume 1.
Mon 20/10/03 at 14:46
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Last few films I’ve seen would be:

Raiders of the Lost Ark
Temple of Doom
The Last Crusade
Kill Bill

Apart from that not much in the last few weeks, though Play.com have got quite a few interesting films in their sales.
Mon 20/10/03 at 14:45
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I can't actually remember what the last film I saw in the cinema was...


Ah, I think it was American Pie 3, which was balls.
Mon 20/10/03 at 14:43
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Comon Totoro, last five films please

I’ve seen 10 recently, Out of five stars

Kill bill ****
Das Experiment ****
Confessions of a dangerous Mind *****
The Rules of attraction ****
Cabin Fever **
Irreversible *****
League of Extraordinary Gentlemen *
Holes **
Cypher *****
Confidence ***
Mon 20/10/03 at 14:32
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Darwock wrote:
> What's Natural Born Killers got to do with anything? That was an
> Oliver Stone movie.

QT was involved with wrote the screenplay, as with From Dusk Till Dawn (Robert Rodriguez directed)

Oh, he wrote True Romance too (Tony Scott directing).
Mon 20/10/03 at 14:32
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Totoro wrote:
> So you haven't even see the damn film yet?
> Who are you to ask me questions about it then if you haven't even
> ventured out to watch it yet.

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I don't have to watch it to spot a scenester when I see one.
Mon 20/10/03 at 14:31
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Darwock wrote:
> What's Natural Born Killers got to do with anything? That was an
> Oliver Stone movie.
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Written by Quention Tarantino.
Mon 20/10/03 at 14:31
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*reels Totoro in*
Mon 20/10/03 at 14:30
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Goatboy wrote:
> Kill Bill - Seeing this week

So you haven't even see the damn film yet?
Who are you to ask me questions about it then if you haven't even ventured out to watch it yet.
Mon 20/10/03 at 14:30
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What's Natural Born Killers got to do with anything? That was an Oliver Stone movie.
Mon 20/10/03 at 14:29
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Mr Snuggly wrote:
> Hmm, this is the same guy that claimed I was causing the downfall of
> the games industry because I bought Enter The Matrix.

Well kinda.
That was a slight outburst at the fact that people were flocking to buy Enter the Matrix, a poor game, purely becasue of the brand name.
It got to the top of the charts despite hardly any reviews available at the time of release. People then discovered it was a poor game (of course those who enjoyed it are always entitled to their opinion).

I guess the downfall of the industry hasn't happened yet thankfully ( I feel a bit like Richard Madely with his "Millenium Cupboard").

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