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I think every single person in the World is 100% selfish, yes even charities because ultimatly are these charities not being selfish because if there going to be nice and helpful there guarantied a place in heaven.
Unless there is actually a non religious charity.
Unless there is actually a non religious charity.
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Absolutely right. Selfishness is not necessarily a bad thing. It all depends on whether you're being selfish by fulfilling a want to be helpful, or wallowing in sinful gluttony.
Belldandy wrote:
> Because everyone does something for a reason. Even if someone does
> charity work just to help people, then helping people makes them feel
> a certain way, in other words they help so as to feel that way, which
> is ultimately selfish.
I think the people I hate most in the world are the students who stand around town wearing an Oxfam bib, carrying a clipboard, demanding that you set up a direct debit to give them money and making you feel guilty if you don't. I've got nothing against Oxfam (and I do give them money) but this sort of thing is much more aggressive than the 'aggressive begging' that David Blunkett is about to spend millions getting rid of. I heard that they get £7 an hour too, the gits.
> Because everyone does something for a reason. Even if someone does
> charity work just to help people, then helping people makes them feel
> a certain way, in other words they help so as to feel that way, which
> is ultimately selfish.
I think the people I hate most in the world are the students who stand around town wearing an Oxfam bib, carrying a clipboard, demanding that you set up a direct debit to give them money and making you feel guilty if you don't. I've got nothing against Oxfam (and I do give them money) but this sort of thing is much more aggressive than the 'aggressive begging' that David Blunkett is about to spend millions getting rid of. I heard that they get £7 an hour too, the gits.
Insane Bartender wrote:
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> Everything is, in some way, a little selfish.
I entirely agree. The selfish desire to want to feel good about oneself by helping others is a powerful motivation in my life, but I don't beat myself up about it cos, at the end of the day, I'm doing good.
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> Everything is, in some way, a little selfish.
I entirely agree. The selfish desire to want to feel good about oneself by helping others is a powerful motivation in my life, but I don't beat myself up about it cos, at the end of the day, I'm doing good.
Belldandy wrote:
> But heaven only exists in one faith anyway, and judging from how some
> charities carry on I doubt it'd be viewed as a positive activity in
> every case anyway.
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Heaven only exists in one faith?
Maybe the word heaven, but the notion exists in *ALL* faiths/religions.
That's why they are religions/faiths, because the belief that a higher purpose is at work and you will be rewarded for honest, decent behaviour by attaining a place in whatever Nirvana your particular sect says is heaven.
> But heaven only exists in one faith anyway, and judging from how some
> charities carry on I doubt it'd be viewed as a positive activity in
> every case anyway.
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Heaven only exists in one faith?
Maybe the word heaven, but the notion exists in *ALL* faiths/religions.
That's why they are religions/faiths, because the belief that a higher purpose is at work and you will be rewarded for honest, decent behaviour by attaining a place in whatever Nirvana your particular sect says is heaven.
RoJ wrote:
> Its a harsh dog eat dog world out there, and you have to be tough to
> survive it, mentally and physically.
That's the sort of thing David Blaine would say, trying in vain to convince the kids that his box stunt is good.
And Gigs, you're being selfish by wasting perfectly good air that someone else could be breathing.
> Its a harsh dog eat dog world out there, and you have to be tough to
> survive it, mentally and physically.
That's the sort of thing David Blaine would say, trying in vain to convince the kids that his box stunt is good.
And Gigs, you're being selfish by wasting perfectly good air that someone else could be breathing.
By saying that there are different types of selfishness, I mean this:
People who, for example, appear to 'selflessly' sacrifice their time and money for the good of others can also be seen to be selfish in their actions. ie - their actions are done to appeal to their particular want to help others, and by doing so they make themselves feel better about who they are. Their actions allow them a moral highground.
People will respect someone who sacrifices their time for other people, and people who make those sacrifices will undoubtebly know that.
However, just because such actions can, in a cynical perspective, be viewed as selfish, it does not then follow that those actions are therefore bad.
Everything is, in some way, a little selfish.
People who, for example, appear to 'selflessly' sacrifice their time and money for the good of others can also be seen to be selfish in their actions. ie - their actions are done to appeal to their particular want to help others, and by doing so they make themselves feel better about who they are. Their actions allow them a moral highground.
People will respect someone who sacrifices their time for other people, and people who make those sacrifices will undoubtebly know that.
However, just because such actions can, in a cynical perspective, be viewed as selfish, it does not then follow that those actions are therefore bad.
Everything is, in some way, a little selfish.
Alec wrote:
> Heaven has absualtuely fcuk all to do with this topic Gigs...
Thankyou! Someone who sees how inane this thread is!
> Heaven has absualtuely fcuk all to do with this topic Gigs...
Thankyou! Someone who sees how inane this thread is!
Lindgren wrote:
> Gigs wrote:
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> Unless there is actually a non religious charity.
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> If I'm not mistaken (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), but both
> Sight Savers and Concern are non-religious charities, as are the
> Cancer Society and the Marie Keating Foundation.
Oh, and the Make-A-Wish and Share-A-Dream foundations too.
> Gigs wrote:
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> Unless there is actually a non religious charity.
>
> If I'm not mistaken (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), but both
> Sight Savers and Concern are non-religious charities, as are the
> Cancer Society and the Marie Keating Foundation.
Oh, and the Make-A-Wish and Share-A-Dream foundations too.
Gigs wrote:
> Unless there is actually a non religious charity.
If I'm not mistaken (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), but both Sight Savers and Concern are non-religious charities, as are the Cancer Society and the Marie Keating Foundation.
> Unless there is actually a non religious charity.
If I'm not mistaken (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), but both Sight Savers and Concern are non-religious charities, as are the Cancer Society and the Marie Keating Foundation.
I think it is a bit far to say we are a 100% selfish..
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