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"Selfishness"

I think every single person in the World is 100% selfish, yes even charities because ultimatly are these charities not being selfish because if there going to be nice and helpful there guarantied a place in heaven.

Unless there is actually a non religious charity.

Rickoss wrote:
> People are sefish, yes, but that doesn't make everyone a bad person.
> We all have our needs, sometimes seflishness comes in the form of
> getting someone a birthday/christmas present and feeling good about
> seeing them happy.
>
> It's not as if just because people think about themselves they don't
> care about others, does it?

Very serious indeed, no I agree.

*One thing which wasn't serious was when you tried to type selfish, and it looked like seafish* :)

But joking a side I do agree with your point.

People are sefish, yes, but that doesn't make everyone a bad person. We all have our needs, sometimes seflishness comes in the form of getting someone a birthday/christmas present and feeling good about seeing them happy.

It's not as if just because people think about themselves they don't care about others, does it?

Belldandy wrote:

> Does it seem to anyone else like he hasn't read a word anyone has
> typed in this topic ?

Hey, takes one to know one...

> 3)No one has posted anything that remotely backs up your "they
> want to go to heaven" statement.

Actually...in all seriousness, I wouldn't mind spending all eternity in paradise.

"You're obsessed with eternal paradise, you are."


Heh, strikes me as mildly amusing for some reason.

Someone has a heaven fixation.

Gigs wrote:
> Yeah, I mean theres nothing wrong with wanting to go to heaven as long
> as its to help some one. :)

I see some of your points but I don't understand this heaven stuff. I REALLY don't think it is an issue. People do things for other reasons you know other than get into heaven.

Yeah, I mean theres nothing wrong with wanting to go to heaven as long as its to help some one. :)

Agreed with Venombyte, there's nothing wrong with being selfish, and it's particularly marvellous to do something that benefits not just yourself, but many other people too.

I'll defend Gigs on this one. He's essentially suggesting that behaviour is completely governed by hedonism. Everyone acts selfishly, but the definiion of 'selfish' varies dramatically from person to person and society to society. As IB said, being selfish may not be a bad thing, if being so causes you to be 'charitable'. Acts of charity are not 100% selfless, or else you'd be equally happy inserting the same amount of cash down your nearest sewer. You don't control your mind. You merely think you do.

IB and Belldandy have argued his case for him well. Drawing the conjecture further, you can conclude that free will is indeed an illusion. Everything we do is predetermined by our genes, and our reactions to given situations.

This does not though, mean that you're trapped, or cannot make a difference. It means that you will, and have to, should you be so inclined (or inflicted?).

That's maybe a little harsh, after all theres no way of knowing how old Gigs is, and what he posted is obviously his perception of the subject.