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Thu 04/09/03 at 11:56
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3077040.stm

A Floridian Pro-Lifer is executed for murdering a doctor that worked in an abortion clinic.
And to borrow from Bill Hicks:
"Pro-Lifers murdering people....HAHAHAHA...it's irony on a base level isn't it? Pro-Lifers. Murdering..."

Someone explain the logic behind this retarded, demented dark-ages attitude that says it's ok to murder someone to prevent an abortion.
Oh, oh...except it doesn't stop that abortion at all, another doctor carries it out.

Who the hell are these glazed-eyed morons to dictacte what someone else should do according to their take on a religion?
Murdering someone in "god's name".
Retarded. And gives well-balanced religious people a bad name.
Explain how some empty-headed hatemonger psycho fundamentalist murdering a doctor is any different from empty-headed hatemonger psycho fundamentalists slamming planes into buildings, or bombing UN headquarters?

It's using fear and the threat of death to impose your views upon others.
Yet George W Bush supports pro-lifers, so does that make him an accessory to those that support Al-Queda and currently languish in Camp X-Ray?

Don't get me wrong, this isn't a rant against religion.
This is a rant against morons that use it as an excuse to murder. They should all be tied up and thrown into the sun if they are unwilling to mind their business and think they have the right to murder people.
Thu 04/09/03 at 11:56
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3077040.stm

A Floridian Pro-Lifer is executed for murdering a doctor that worked in an abortion clinic.
And to borrow from Bill Hicks:
"Pro-Lifers murdering people....HAHAHAHA...it's irony on a base level isn't it? Pro-Lifers. Murdering..."

Someone explain the logic behind this retarded, demented dark-ages attitude that says it's ok to murder someone to prevent an abortion.
Oh, oh...except it doesn't stop that abortion at all, another doctor carries it out.

Who the hell are these glazed-eyed morons to dictacte what someone else should do according to their take on a religion?
Murdering someone in "god's name".
Retarded. And gives well-balanced religious people a bad name.
Explain how some empty-headed hatemonger psycho fundamentalist murdering a doctor is any different from empty-headed hatemonger psycho fundamentalists slamming planes into buildings, or bombing UN headquarters?

It's using fear and the threat of death to impose your views upon others.
Yet George W Bush supports pro-lifers, so does that make him an accessory to those that support Al-Queda and currently languish in Camp X-Ray?

Don't get me wrong, this isn't a rant against religion.
This is a rant against morons that use it as an excuse to murder. They should all be tied up and thrown into the sun if they are unwilling to mind their business and think they have the right to murder people.
Thu 04/09/03 at 12:03
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Jolly old me watched a documentary about the Jones Town massacre on history last night. Rev Jimmie Jones set up an island prison colony that he disguised as a religion to get people to come there. If they tried to leave they were shot at or murdered. A few reporters went there with a governor and a TV crew to investigate the claims. Jones denied they were holding people at the island, but as the crew left people were desperately trying to get on their plane. Then men with guns came and shot most of them dead, including the governor and reporters - all this was caught on film. After that, Rev. Jones held a mass for nearly 1000 people, where he handed out drinks laced with cyanide - they all died in the biggest mass suicide ever. Parents killed their children, then themselves. The helicopter footage of the bodies, all lying in a huge multi-coloured pile shows the huge amount of death involved. Really f**ked up.
Thu 04/09/03 at 12:03
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I totally agree. I doubt this guy even cared for the abortion debate, but just used it as an excuse to vent some anger.

What a tool.
Thu 04/09/03 at 12:20
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I don't agree with abortion, but murdering someone has no effect in forwarding your beliefs to others. As you said in the title Goatboy, fundamentalism is stupid.

The problem with fundamentalism is that it is to basic. It doesn't take account of the real world, and frequently it is based on a twisting of the words of a holy book, be it the bible or koran. Taken out of context it is possible to make them say anything.
Thu 04/09/03 at 13:46
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Goatboy wrote:
> And to borrow from Bill Hicks:
> "Pro-Lifers murdering people....HAHAHAHA...it's irony on a base
> level isn't it? Pro-Lifers. Murdering..."

Funnily enough I listened to two Bill Hicks albums last night, and this was on one of them.

"If you're so pro-life, do me a favour - don't lock arms and block medical clinics. If you're so pro-life, lock arms and block cemeteries."

And then he did the bit about Billy Ray Cyrus: "Every woman in this room would damn near break her pelvis opening her legs to take his cracker seed into her womb."
Thu 04/09/03 at 17:37
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But the doctor was older than the babies he aborted...it's good value for money.
Thu 04/09/03 at 18:05
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Blank wrote:
> But the doctor was older than the babies he aborted...it's good value
> for money.

WTF are you on about now ?
Thu 04/09/03 at 20:09
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cf: humour.
Thu 04/09/03 at 21:24
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This kind of thing certainly makes it harder to trust the average stranger in the street.
The idea was that by respecting and helping your fellow man he wouldn't have cause to.. hurt you, as you wouldn't be hurting him.

Then when people crop up who'll kill anyone who disagrees with one of their particular viewpoints, well we don't really trust the average man in the street any more, suddenly what we've been doing isn't enough to stop him slamming a bullet into your face.

Nevertheless, we still have a choice: condemn these people off hand ('people like that should be shot') or try to better understand why they take their particular actions.


And ultimately it has to come down to one thing: Their objective seems more important to them than a human life.

So the pro-lifer sees a doctor, who they deem responsible for murdering many unborn children, and kills him.

What did we say before about that pro-lifer? 'People like that should be shot'.
Exactly the same reasoning. If we mean it, we'd kill them because of their willingness to kill.


But let's take it a bit further:
Somebody's killing for another reason.. say, they're a religious nut, who've construed a religious text telling them to kill.. tories.

So we take the line:
We should kill them because they're killing tories.

Ie, we kill them because they're doing something we deem totally unacceptable by our moral code.

While they reason:
I kill tories because they're doing something totally unacceptable by my moral code (voting tory and contradicting the killer's interpretation of the religious text).

So, we chose to place ultimate condemnation on killers, they on tories.

What is there to say that our moral code is 'better' than theirs ? What if right and wrong is purely subjective, dependant only on an individual's chosen morals, devoid of any greater concept of right and wrong ?


Does the comparison between us and the pro-lifer still hold true for us and the religious nut ?
Fri 05/09/03 at 10:00
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I saw this guy on the news yesterday. What a wacko. And that's not just an off-the-cuff remark, I honestly thought he was insane.

"This doctor is killing unborn babies, so I shall murder him because an unborn life has more value than a doctor's life."

Excuse me? I know you wear the dog collar and all that, but who the hell are you to place values on people's lives? The sad thing is, he was smiling about it, confident he did the right thing and would ascend to heaven and be placed by God's right hand. For killing a doctor.

A psycho, and I'm glad he's getting the injection.

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