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Sat 02/08/03 at 10:05
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Saw this film yesterday. I really have mixed feelings about it, some good and some bad. I'd been waiting 11 years to see it, so my expectations were set VERY high (I saw T2 when I was 4 :D).

Plot: Sounding like a broken record, John Connor is living off the grid, and another two terminators have been sent back through time - one to terminate him, and another to protect him. It would simply be a case of which one would reach him first. While it's similar in terms to the 2nd film, it's a good enough plot.
10/10

Script: While the scripting was relevant and explained a lot that the first two films did not, there was too much comedy in my opinion that was just irrelevant. While the whole "Talk to duh hand" thing showed that this T-101 learns also, there was just some stupid dialogue. There were some cool phrases though, pity a lot of them sounded better in the trailer :|
7/10

Acting: Arnie isn't a brilliant actor, but I thought Claire Danes and Nich Stahl did pretty well, especially the latter. Kristianna Loken was nothing special as the Terminatrix, but then she's playing a machine, so what can ye do?
7/10

Cast: The casting was done well, especially for John Connor, but I would've preferred Edward Furlong assuming the role of Connor once again. Still, what can be done? He took drugs, yadda, yadda, yadda. Kristianna Loken was nothing special as the T-X, but there could've been a lot worse people to play the part, like Chyna :|
8/10

Best bit: Arnie blowing himself and the T-X up. But wait, I thought he couldn't self terminate. Or is that an act that leads to self-termination and is therefore not counted.

Ending: It ends on a cliffhanger, which was slightly annoying. Still, we got the brilliant battle in Nevada before that, so I'll let Mostow off for that.
8/10

A good film, but a bit of a pop-corn film. I think Cameron could've made it better, but not that much better. There were some clever bits, such as the TX having her metal stripped off by the magnet etc, but it seemed as though it was appealing to a younger audience. I have one relief in that nothing was cut for the 12A release. Roll on Terminator 4, and for those of you suggesting this, it is in no way confirmed a Terminator 5 will happen, and probably will not.

Overall: 8/10
Sun 03/08/03 at 22:54
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"I am Riki Takeuchi!"
Posts: 2,988
Pringle28 wrote:
> Kiriyama wrote:
>
> Plot: Sounding like a broken record, John Connor is living off the
> grid, and another two terminators have been sent back through time -
> one to terminate him, and another to protect him. It would simply be
> a
> case of which one would reach him first. While it's similar in terms
> to the 2nd film, it's a good enough plot.
> 10/10
>
> actually the plot was a little diffrent.

A LITTLE different. Precise-a-mendo.
Sun 03/08/03 at 22:36
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"Not a Jew"
Posts: 7,532
Yes that was it, but it was in the first film, non?
Sun 03/08/03 at 22:28
"The Will of D."
Posts: 5,643
Pringle28 wrote:
> yeah he may have been another t 101 but he had the ability to remember
> phrases such as "talk to the hand". And i distinctly
> remember John connor saying "hasta la vista baby" to him
> when they were in the pet van.
>
> It was logically possible for arnie to say the line! Its just that it
> would probbably have cost the producers of the film another $10
> million dollars!

yeah, the only reason they put in "Your Terminated!" at the end is because at the end of the first film Sarah Connor said almost the same thing to the original T101 when it was crushed. it went something like this: "Your Terminated
Sun 03/08/03 at 19:26
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"Its all me,me,me,me"
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yeah he may have been another t 101 but he had the ability to remember phrases such as "talk to the hand". And i distinctly remember John connor saying "hasta la vista baby" to him when they were in the pet van.

It was logically possible for arnie to say the line! Its just that it would probbably have cost the producers of the film another $10 million dollars!
Sun 03/08/03 at 14:09
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"Hallelujah"
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Thanks for putting *spoilers* on the title, now i know valuable plot peices...nipple!
Sun 03/08/03 at 12:18
"The Will of D."
Posts: 5,643
Memorandum wrote:
> Psyİho Fox wrote:
> cliche'.
>
> You mean cliché?

I forgot how to do it with my computer.
Sat 02/08/03 at 23:32
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Posts: 11,038
Pringle28 wrote:
> and why didnt he say "astalavista baby" when he blew up the
> tx!
> "youve been terminated" just dosnt work!

Actually, it's:

Hasta La Vista, but, I'll let you away with it.

That was a different T-101.
Sat 02/08/03 at 23:16
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"aka memo aaka gayby"
Posts: 11,948
Psyİho Fox wrote:
> cliche'.

You mean cliché?
Sat 02/08/03 at 23:10
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"Its all me,me,me,me"
Posts: 1,055
Hey i never said matrix reloaded was worse than t3! i said it was equal! and come to think of it maybe i was a little over the top. T3 aint as good as matrix reloaded but I prefered some of the action scenes definately.
Sat 02/08/03 at 21:09
"The Will of D."
Posts: 5,643
Pringle28 wrote:
> Overall i thought it was great! Not as good as T2 but i thought that
> it efinately equalled the matrix reloaded!

Hold it a minute! I may be calmer now but that is just not on, the Martix wasn't worse than T3 by far at all.

> and why didnt he say "astalavista baby" when he blew up the
> tx! "youve been terminated" just dosnt work!

I actually agree with you on that point, astalavista was one of Arnie's many catchphase, and the only one that wasn't turned into a humourous cliche'.

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