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"T3 - Nowt special *spoilers*"

Just seen an advanced preview thing. And it's an alright action film, but it's not the Terminator film I was expecting. It was two machines firing at each other.

Everyone was saying 'bout a year and a half ago that without James Cameron, this film wouldn't be good. And they were absolutely right. THis Mustow guy hasn't got a clue how to recreate the gloomy Terminator of T1 & T2.

Another thing. The character development. Clare Danes was OK, but just T2 Sarah Connor rehashed. Nick Stahl was probably the best thing about the film, being pretty much spot on with John Connor. But there was no build-up to Ah-nuld at all. No major interaction with John Connor, just special effects. Yup, you've crashed him through a building in a chase that ultimately wasn't nearly as compelling as the (much cheaper) T-1000 in a chopper chase/T-1000 in a lorry Vs Ah-nuld on his motorbike, or even Michael Beihn going crazy in a 80's crapwagon. The T-X was a gimmick, nothing more.

"Ahaha, we've got a woman, check her out." "Alright, shes fit. What next?" "Um..."

Her being able to form weapons with her hands isn't nearly as menacing as the T-1000 and his "knivvves und stabbing objeckts". Robert Patrick was superb, Kristanna Loken wasn't.

That being said, the film did have its good points. The whole "No fate but what we make for ourselves" angle is explored, and Judgement Day is well represented. Not enough though.

T3 - Nowt special.

But they do make a crane do a flip. So it must be better.

But in The Terminator, what they did actually caused it all to happen, so if Sky Net hadn't sent the T-800 back, they wouldn't have NEEDED to, because Reese wouldn't have gone back, got Sarah up the duff, and that kid wouldn't have destroyed Sky Net. But they DID send the T-800 back, which is the paradox.

In T3, they throw that theory out the window and it becomes a Back To The Future style time travel story where what you do can change the future. Bah.

Classic paradox, really.

That's only in the special edition, Stryke. In the normal version his CPU is a "A learning computer."

There's worse stuff than that, though. In T3, they said what they did in T2 actually affected the future. So that means whatever they do in the present can change what's going to happen. But that wasn't the case in the first two films. If it was, who was John Connor's father BEFORE he sent Reese back? Think about it.

maddmun wrote:
> The guy at the club tells him to "Talk to the hand" when he
> "asks" for his clothes.

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Yep, so he learnt that line off the guy. What I'm saying is that Arnie explains in T2 that all Skynet chips are reset prior to being sent out on a mission so they don't think too much. They have to reset it in T2 so he can learn Asta la Vista and all that. So by that logic he shouldn't have been able to learn lines like Talk To Zer Hand. I'm just being picky, I know.

Saw it last night. Not bad, but I had been waiting to see it for a long time, so my expectations were very high. The way they destroyed the T-X was brilliant though.

"You're terminated."

BOOM! Brilliant. There was hardly any actual BGM in the film, which was disappointing, and a few CGI effects didn't look great. A final complaint is that it took too long to get started. It could've done with being half an hour longer so that we could have at least one more major action scene.

8/10. Just.

i gave 6.5 out of 10

It wasnt amazing but it wasnt bad, the fact that it was funny in places surprised me. But i felt Arnie was too deadpan in this one, almost like he was just going through the motions.

3.5 / 5

The guy at the club tells him to "Talk to the hand" when he "asks" for his clothes.

Fantastic thaqt bit was.

"Macho macho macho man, I wanna be, a macho man"

Being a geek here, but if all chips in Terminators are reset prior to being sent out (T2), how can he "learn" that talking to the hand line?

More importantly, I don't really care.