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Sat 19/07/03 at 16:02
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USA is much better then the UK.
We have a better soccer side as shown in the world cup.
We speak in a proper accent
We are more superior in terms of power over other countries
We make better cars
We exercise our military right

USA thinks england is full of rich snobs who don't live in the real world. Any Ameriacns feel the same post your thoughts, and any Englishman can run.
Tue 26/08/03 at 19:55
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Skarra wrote:
> And slavery wasn't an issue in the Civil War, quite some time after
> the revolution?!?!?!

Slavery was a key issue in the formation of sides during both the Civil War and the Revolution - the divide being supporters and opposers.
Tue 26/08/03 at 19:44
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Skarra wrote:
> But it's also nice to see people with an awareness of the better days
> and accomplishments of the Empire. I'm not saying it was all good,
> but i know it wasn't all bad.

As long as you were a white skinned European rich person or merchant all was well... time to go back to the history books Skarra.
Tue 26/08/03 at 19:33
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Belldandy wrote:
> Skarra wrote:
> we practically created the slave trade and were instrumental in
> adapting it in ways which led to greater loss of life in exchange
> for
> greater profit.
>
> Yes, but the Americans didn't get rid of it all that quickly.
>
> Hmmm, one of the reasons for the American Revolution - abolition of
> slavery. Kinda destroys your point.

And slavery wasn't an issue in the Civil War, quite some time after the revolution?!?!?!


> we colonised half the planet and treated the native peoples like
> crap,
>
> Yes, but think of the good things too, would Canada, or Australia,
> or
> even the US be the state they are now if it wasn't for the UK.
>
> At what cost though ? The point is we'll never know, certainly Africa
> and the Middle East wouldn't be the mess they are now.

What, they didn't fight before the British got there? It's human nature to destroy, not the Union Flag. I'm not saying we didn't play a part in the problems of today, but you can't say if we didn't do what we did, there wouldn't be problems.

> we stole valuable treasures, resources, wealth...and much more, and
> most of that before 1900...
>
> Yes, but at the time, with that time's way of thinking, it was ok,
> and we did do somethin' to make up for that later on.
>
> Like what ? Only minimal reparations have been paid to relatives of
> slaves from that time, we've returned a few stolen pieces of art,
> usually in leverage for something we've wanted, and so forth. Still,
> it's nice to see someone with an awareness of our own country's not
> so glorious past.

But it's also nice to see people with an awareness of the better days and accomplishments of the Empire. I'm not saying it was all good, but i know it wasn't all bad.
Tue 26/08/03 at 18:01
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Skarra wrote:
> we practically created the slave trade and were instrumental in
> adapting it in ways which led to greater loss of life in exchange for
> greater profit.
>
> Yes, but the Americans didn't get rid of it all that quickly.

Hmmm, one of the reasons for the American Revolution - abolition of slavery. Kinda destroys your point.


> we colonised half the planet and treated the native peoples like
> crap,
>
> Yes, but think of the good things too, would Canada, or Australia, or
> even the US be the state they are now if it wasn't for the UK.

At what cost though ? The point is we'll never know, certainly Africa and the Middle East wouldn't be the mess they are now.

> we stole valuable treasures, resources, wealth...and much more, and
> most of that before 1900...
>
> Yes, but at the time, with that time's way of thinking, it was ok,
> and we did do somethin' to make up for that later on.

Like what ? Only minimal reparations have been paid to relatives of slaves from that time, we've returned a few stolen pieces of art, usually in leverage for something we've wanted, and so forth. Still, it's nice to see someone with an awareness of our own country's not so glorious past.
Tue 26/08/03 at 17:56
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RoJ wrote:
> By the way I got the Rise of Nations trial version. Pretty good game,
> yes? Anyway, how do you save it during a game? (Or can you?)

Press Esc to bring up the in game menu - click on save - I have a suspicion that the trial version will not let you save your progress though, if the option is not on the menu when you press Esc then MS has removed it. Well worth getting the full game when you can.
Tue 26/08/03 at 17:47
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Posts: 742
Belldandy wrote:

> We were the first nation to use concentration camps.

Really, the yanks were, but they called them Reservations. Plus, our reason for using them was a lot better, still not good, but better that the Yanks.

> we practically created the slave trade and were instrumental in adapting it in ways which led to greater loss of life in exchange for greater profit.

Yes, but the Americans didn't get rid of it all that quickly.


> we colonised half the planet and treated the native peoples like crap,

Yes, but think of the good things too, would Canada, or Australia, or even the US be the state they are now if it wasn't for the UK.

> we introduced diseases which people had no resistance to,

I don't think that was the intention, just lack of understanding.

> we stole valuable treasures, resources, wealth...and much more, and most of that before 1900...

Yes, but at the time, with that time's way of thinking, it was ok, and we did do somethin' to make up for that later on.
Tue 26/08/03 at 16:26
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Posts: 19,577
lalakersrule wrote:
> And the second most powerful man in this country is a moron too.
> Granted Prescott isn't as much of a danger to the world as Bush given
> our countries military might and the consequences his stupidity could
> bring but if you're going to have a go at Bush take a look a bit
> closer at home first.

Look at the Scottish Parliament. Donald Dewar was very capable. Then he passed away. Henry McLeish took over and he was OK. Now he has gone and we have Jack McConell as the most powerful man in Scotland.

It doesn't even require much effort to get elected and have power either. Look at Rosie Kane. MSP. From Pollok. Wanted to band the word Ned. NUMPTY!!!!
Tue 26/08/03 at 16:14
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"Not a Jew"
Posts: 7,532
By the way I got the Rise of Nations trial version. Pretty good game, yes? Anyway, how do you save it during a game? (Or can you?)
Tue 26/08/03 at 16:12
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"Not a Jew"
Posts: 7,532
Capital J.
Tue 26/08/03 at 16:07
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RoJ wrote:
> You forgot to mention that the British were the first nation to
> develop poisonous gas, and biowarfare, which they were planning to
> use against the Americans in the War of Independence.

Thanks Roj, forgot that one.

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