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Tue 15/07/03 at 12:58
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Ok, I tried to read it last night, I really did. I got as far as him with some giant, taking him round a shop to choose a wand or something.

Christ almighty, what you are people doing reading this for? Sure, there's some imagination there but the style?
"Harry picked up his hat and tried it on, he moved it about and it fit just fine"
??????????
That's the sound of Rainman writing a story, I bet the editors put the punctuation in whilst Rowling just muuuuhed into a dictaphone with no pauses for breath

"and then the wizard said i dont like you but then harry ran down the path and he ran into a bush and it hurt him and he said owee and then wizard said there there thats ok and harry cried but used magic to make himself feel better and then they went to hogwarts" etc etc.

Read decent books unless you are a child. Or a retarded adult.
Decent books like Catch-22, Bukowski, Edward Bunker, Shakespeare.
It makes me furious that grown-ups read this drivel and think it makes them clever
I'm amazed more of you dont fall down a lot when walking.

Harry Potter? I'd like to throw them into the sea and send adults to Borders with a list of adult authors.
"Oh come on, it's just fun"
Yes, badly written fun. Try Phillip Pullman for fantasy writings, or try reading Dashiel Hammett, Elmore Leonard, ANYTHING but a poorly written children's book.

Next time you see an adult reading one, walk over and say "Has mummy or daddy left you here alone?"
"...what?"
"Would you like me to help you find them?"
"....what??"
Then knock the book from their hands, push them to the floor and walk away muttering "####ing retard"
Tue 15/07/03 at 16:41
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*swoons*
Tue 15/07/03 at 16:40
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Listen, I may read Shakespeare and Auden, Larkin and Auden but I can still moody with the best of them.

I aint no fairy
Tue 15/07/03 at 16:40
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MoJoJoJo wrote:
> "And Shakespeare rules"
>
> I'm sorry but I simply can't agree. It's been well over a decade since
> you were FORCED to read it. Your opinion may have changed (people
> remember things as better than they were) or you're reading them
> currently, and actually get it, but as a kid, Shakespeare is as evil
> as Satan and George W Bush put together.

I'm not sure about that. Hamlet and The Merchant of Venice are excellent plays.
Just finished "Great Expectations" for the first time and I was moved at the style of language and the eloquence of Dickens. He's truly a great author.
I'm now reading "The Life of Pi" at the moment. Quite an intruiging read and very different from what I normally read. But I'm finding it very engrossing.
Tue 15/07/03 at 16:39
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*falls in love with the all sensitive Goatboy*
Tue 15/07/03 at 16:38
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I hated it at school, but then I hated eating at school. Anything I'm forced to do I loathe. I went back on my own time and absolutely love reading them now.
And not just the plays, but the sonnets, letters and prose he wrote.
The way it's taught kills it, reading so much into it that sucks.

Midsummer's Night Dream - is played out here daily with the "I like her but she doesnt like me" posts. Dimitrius, the meanass hateful fighter besting Lysander. Fantastic.

I remember at college, my lecturer said "Ok, who wants to study a play about incest, murder, insanity, fratricide, war, villainy, ghosts, revenge, mayhem and death?"
30 hands shoot up.
"Good. Hamlet it is then"
"....eh?"
He taught it like it was written yesterday, and Hamlet is like olde worlde Tarantino.

Approach at your leisure and you may find it reveals itself.
Tue 15/07/03 at 16:37
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Here's what I'm saying man:

http://news.bbc.co.uk /1/hi/entertainment/1224264.stm

hmmm just like the whole Dune and Starwars plagarism malarkey.
Tue 15/07/03 at 16:37
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I went through my crisis of faith around the time I finished resd His Dark Materials, I don't think the two are linked, but it's a funny coincidence
Tue 15/07/03 at 16:37
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The sagacious one wrote:
> Read: The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant, The Unbeliever.

If you want decent fantasy, Stephen Donaldson's your man.
Tue 15/07/03 at 16:34
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"And Shakespeare rules"

I'm sorry but I simply can't agree. It's been well over a decade since you were FORCED to read it. Your opinion may have changed (people remember things as better than they were) or you're reading them currently, and actually get it, but as a kid, Shakespeare is as evil as Satan and George W Bush put together.
Tue 15/07/03 at 16:32
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Ok, I've read through some of the replies:

I'm not saying kids shouldn't read it, I agree if it gets kids reading then that's good.
Kids, not adults.
Grown people reading it. Sure, read what you want. Just dont start telling me "Oh it's so good" and getting offended when I say "No, it's not. It's generic fantasy, badly written for children. Now please leave me alone until you can read books designed for over 15 year olds. You muggleassclown"

And Shakespeare rules. They're not plays either, they're "texts" if you want to get pedantic, Mr Wordy.
Language that will serve you well in wooing, teaches 3-act scripts if you consider yourself a writer, shows fantastic character development through speech and can tell a more complex story in less than 5 editions.
And go read Titus Andronicus if you think it's all "A rose by any other name"

Get some class, get some education and appreciate classical literature before you start to judge Harry bloody Potter as a "good read"
It's not.
Poor desciptive ability, step-by-step prose "It was sunny. The sun beat down upon the grass. Harry lay on the grass, enjoying the coolness" and godawful, cliche ideas.

Here endeth the lesson.
And I will not engage in a debate with a person that says Pullman brainwashes kids into atheism, that's about as valid as those red-faced cow people in Arkansas that want to ban Potter books because they promote devil worship.

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