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"George Best"

George Worst more like.

What an utterly useless, ungrateful, selfish piece of human trash he is.

What a shame that they can't remove his new liver and give it to someone who deserves it, before he ruins it.

There was probably a young kid somewhere with a future who could have made far better use of that liver, and would actually have been grateful for the chance of a new life.

How must the relatives of the donor feel? I know I'd be livid. They would have been comforted to think that the death of a loved one had at least meant that someone else was given a chance. Maybe comforted even more by the knowledge that part of their loved one was living on in that person.

Instead they see this scum p!ssing it all away and poisoning the gift he has been given.

It just backs up my opinion that those with self-induced problems should be excluded from consideration for organ transplants.

Give them to those who can't help it, like accident victims etc. - those who might actually appreciate the a second chance.

Let trash like Best put up with the consequences of his lifestyle.

WòókieeMøn§†€® wrote:
> Black Glove wrote:
> And would you be saying this if George Best was an Arsenal legend?
>
> Well, that must be the single most pathetic comment I've read on these
> forums.
>
> What the hell has that got to do with anything? You think I'm saying
> any this because he was a Manchester United player? That really is
> sad.


Aye, Wookiee doesnt discriminate like that. I remember him saying the same sort of things about highbury "legend" David O'leary after he pointed out that Ashley Cole is prone to falling over blades of grass!

Comment from his wife that wsa on local radio here;

"He's a national hero whose been drunk for twenty years, yet still they like him."

I thought it was rather fitting.

well wookie, I can see your point mate, and in a way I agree.

But too many people consider alcoholism to be a flaw in someones personality, when in fact it is far more akin to a disease.

People who drink themselves to death know they are doing it, but are trapped in an endless cycle that they can't get out of.

It is like when someone kills themself with a bullet to the head. People don't say "ah sod him, it was his own choice", they say "what must this poor man have been going through to choose to end his life?" Its similar with alcoholism. these people want/need to be helped, but most of the general public just say "ah, it's self inflicted, sod him".

I do agree that it is a shame that the liver couldn't have gone to someone younger, who hasn't already had a good 'innings' and therefore is in a way more deserving of it.

I just hope he finds the strength of character to do something about it before he throws his last chance of life away. Only he can do it.

I've just realised that gay people are a victim of their homosomes.

I overcame my jeans.
She was furious, I felt inadequate. But happy.
Then I went to sleep.

Twiddly wrote:

> And you're right, at the end of the day, quitting is all about
> willpower, which is an individual trait.

A genetic trait. It's not easy to overcome your genes.

WòókieeMøn§†€® wrote:
> Okay, maybe "scum" was far too strong a word, but I couldn't
> think of another at the time.

Well you did use "trash" as well :p
But seriously, I know where you're coming with this, but when it comes to saving someone's life then I think everyone should receive equal treatment regardless of lifestyle/weaknesses/addictions.

If it came to the point where doctors had to inform relatives that they can't operative on their son/daughter/whatever because they don't meet the necessary criteria, then that would be a bad state-of-affairs.

People get addicted to drinking in the same way that people get addicted to chewing the inside of their lip, biting their nails cutting slits in their skin to watch it bleed - because humans can get addictde to ANYTHING, pain included. To blame an individual for something which is essentially a common human trait is daft.

And you're right, at the end of the day, quitting is all about willpower, which is an individual trait.

Lack the willpower, you will struggle to quit, regardless of the consequences on your health. This is evident in people who harm themselves repeatedly for pleasure. They know only too well that it's potentially lethal, but they do it anyway. Why? Because they just can't stop.

I know lacking willpower is an undesirable trait, but to cast down judgement from above claiming that because someone has become addicted something, they're "scum" or whatever, is more than a little harsh.

Can't someone take the middle ground here? I believe that EVERYONE had a right to treatment, such as a transplant, regardless of their past. Doctors are doctors, not judges.

However, I also believe that George Best should now be refused a second transplant, should he need one and should be made to pay for his previous operation (which was carried out for free on the NHS)

As was said on The Wright Stuff- perhaps the breweries should also pay towards transplants since they aim their advertising on young, vulnerable people (eg 'alcopops')

Black Glove wrote:
> Pathetic it may be, but it's not as pathetic as labelling someone
> "scum". I find that 10 times more pathetic.

Okay, maybe "scum" was far too strong a word, but I couldn't think of another at the time.