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George Worst more like.
What an utterly useless, ungrateful, selfish piece of human trash he is.
What a shame that they can't remove his new liver and give it to someone who deserves it, before he ruins it.
There was probably a young kid somewhere with a future who could have made far better use of that liver, and would actually have been grateful for the chance of a new life.
How must the relatives of the donor feel? I know I'd be livid. They would have been comforted to think that the death of a loved one had at least meant that someone else was given a chance. Maybe comforted even more by the knowledge that part of their loved one was living on in that person.
Instead they see this scum p!ssing it all away and poisoning the gift he has been given.
It just backs up my opinion that those with self-induced problems should be excluded from consideration for organ transplants.
Give them to those who can't help it, like accident victims etc. - those who might actually appreciate the a second chance.
Let trash like Best put up with the consequences of his lifestyle.
What an utterly useless, ungrateful, selfish piece of human trash he is.
What a shame that they can't remove his new liver and give it to someone who deserves it, before he ruins it.
There was probably a young kid somewhere with a future who could have made far better use of that liver, and would actually have been grateful for the chance of a new life.
How must the relatives of the donor feel? I know I'd be livid. They would have been comforted to think that the death of a loved one had at least meant that someone else was given a chance. Maybe comforted even more by the knowledge that part of their loved one was living on in that person.
Instead they see this scum p!ssing it all away and poisoning the gift he has been given.
It just backs up my opinion that those with self-induced problems should be excluded from consideration for organ transplants.
Give them to those who can't help it, like accident victims etc. - those who might actually appreciate the a second chance.
Let trash like Best put up with the consequences of his lifestyle.
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Show that t!rd whose boss Wooks! :D
I'm in agreement here - Best is a twonk. I say someone should give him that last sodding drink...
I'm in agreement here - Best is a twonk. I say someone should give him that last sodding drink...
Twiddly wrote:
> Do you also look down on smokers, people with eating disorders or drug
> addictions?
An eating disorder isn't an addiction, it can't be helped, but an addiction is a silly human function that idiots get themselves into.
> Do you also look down on smokers, people with eating disorders or drug
> addictions?
An eating disorder isn't an addiction, it can't be helped, but an addiction is a silly human function that idiots get themselves into.
loki wrote:
> Wookiee, I can't help but hope that in the future your life falls
> apart and that you turn to some form of substance abuse so you know
> what a stunning lack of understanding or compassion you're
> demonstrating.
A (now dead) cousin who was a junkie.
A (long dead) grandfather who was a drunk AND a gambler and lost TWO businesses because of it.
An aunt who was addicted to Valium for many years.
Another aunt who is still with the husband who once beat her so badly while he was drunk that she could never have kids of her own.
A best friend whose dad requires a heart transplant, and whose girlfriend's dad is dying of cancer.
A dad who had a nervous breakdown before I was born, still suffers obssessive-compulsive behaviour today, had a gambling problem, hasn't been able to work for over 20 years, and whose disability living allowance the authorities now want to stop paying because all of a sudden after 20-odd years 'he doesn't qualify'.
I know all about addiction, mental illness, pain, suffering and despair, thank you very much, loki, and I don't need any more of it wished upon me or my family. I know only too well what damage it can do, not only to the individuals afflicted, but to the family and friends too.
Have you ever had to visit an addict aunt in a psychiatric hospital while she tries to clean up?
Ever had lengthy discussions with a best friend about his dad's failing quadruple heart bypass, to try and put his mind at rest?
Seen your dad pick things up and put them down again a dozen or more times for no apparent reason?
Had people call your dad names in the street because he sometimes acts a little strangely in public?
Watched your mum slowly getting to the end of her tether because she can't take it any more?
Taken all that and more on board, in addition to your own problems such as being bullied at school, having 4 major operations and the collapse of a long-term relationship?
Because I sure as hell have.
Some of these people had their chances and have taken them well, others failed miserably, and the rest are still waiting for their lucky break.
So you'll forgive me if I'm a little low on compassion for those who throw away golden opportunities for a second chance at a normal life - particularly those who have already had a comparatively cushy life.
But I know enough people who deserve such a break, yet have never had the good fortune to have the opportunity handed to them on a plate.
Don't worry, I'm not looking for sympathy votes. I don't want or need them.
And I'm certainly not going to be the slightest bit concerned that a glorified sales monkey with a holier-than-thou attitude has a low opinion of me, despite knowing sweet F.A. about me other than a couple of opinions posted on a forum.
It's because of these people I knew/know and their individual successes, failures and hopes that I have the attitude I have, and why I have little time or patience for those who can't be bothered to help themselves after friends, relatives and in some cases complete strangers, have busted a gut for them.
I have sympathy for many people with many problems, but I have no time for people who take the kindness and generosity of others and throw it back in their faces, which is what I see Best as doing on a major scale. And at least three other people here agree with me. Do you consider them low-life too?
> Half the time you just sound to me like one of those sad, embittered
> little reactionaries that find themselves writing in to the Daily Mail
> on a regular basis.
And half the time you sound to me like one of those bleeding-heart "Aww, poor sod, just give him one more chance and he'll be good" liberals.
I may be sad, I'm definitely embittered about this particular story, but I'm hardly a reactionary. I gave an honest opinion on something I feel strongly about.
If strong personal opinions aren't to your liking, maybe you shouldn't be reading this particular forum.
You don't know me at all, and I suspect that's something for which we will both be eternally grateful.
> Wookiee, I can't help but hope that in the future your life falls
> apart and that you turn to some form of substance abuse so you know
> what a stunning lack of understanding or compassion you're
> demonstrating.
A (now dead) cousin who was a junkie.
A (long dead) grandfather who was a drunk AND a gambler and lost TWO businesses because of it.
An aunt who was addicted to Valium for many years.
Another aunt who is still with the husband who once beat her so badly while he was drunk that she could never have kids of her own.
A best friend whose dad requires a heart transplant, and whose girlfriend's dad is dying of cancer.
A dad who had a nervous breakdown before I was born, still suffers obssessive-compulsive behaviour today, had a gambling problem, hasn't been able to work for over 20 years, and whose disability living allowance the authorities now want to stop paying because all of a sudden after 20-odd years 'he doesn't qualify'.
I know all about addiction, mental illness, pain, suffering and despair, thank you very much, loki, and I don't need any more of it wished upon me or my family. I know only too well what damage it can do, not only to the individuals afflicted, but to the family and friends too.
Have you ever had to visit an addict aunt in a psychiatric hospital while she tries to clean up?
Ever had lengthy discussions with a best friend about his dad's failing quadruple heart bypass, to try and put his mind at rest?
Seen your dad pick things up and put them down again a dozen or more times for no apparent reason?
Had people call your dad names in the street because he sometimes acts a little strangely in public?
Watched your mum slowly getting to the end of her tether because she can't take it any more?
Taken all that and more on board, in addition to your own problems such as being bullied at school, having 4 major operations and the collapse of a long-term relationship?
Because I sure as hell have.
Some of these people had their chances and have taken them well, others failed miserably, and the rest are still waiting for their lucky break.
So you'll forgive me if I'm a little low on compassion for those who throw away golden opportunities for a second chance at a normal life - particularly those who have already had a comparatively cushy life.
But I know enough people who deserve such a break, yet have never had the good fortune to have the opportunity handed to them on a plate.
Don't worry, I'm not looking for sympathy votes. I don't want or need them.
And I'm certainly not going to be the slightest bit concerned that a glorified sales monkey with a holier-than-thou attitude has a low opinion of me, despite knowing sweet F.A. about me other than a couple of opinions posted on a forum.
It's because of these people I knew/know and their individual successes, failures and hopes that I have the attitude I have, and why I have little time or patience for those who can't be bothered to help themselves after friends, relatives and in some cases complete strangers, have busted a gut for them.
I have sympathy for many people with many problems, but I have no time for people who take the kindness and generosity of others and throw it back in their faces, which is what I see Best as doing on a major scale. And at least three other people here agree with me. Do you consider them low-life too?
> Half the time you just sound to me like one of those sad, embittered
> little reactionaries that find themselves writing in to the Daily Mail
> on a regular basis.
And half the time you sound to me like one of those bleeding-heart "Aww, poor sod, just give him one more chance and he'll be good" liberals.
I may be sad, I'm definitely embittered about this particular story, but I'm hardly a reactionary. I gave an honest opinion on something I feel strongly about.
If strong personal opinions aren't to your liking, maybe you shouldn't be reading this particular forum.
You don't know me at all, and I suspect that's something for which we will both be eternally grateful.
Goatboy wrote:
> I overcame my jeans.
> She was furious, I felt inadequate. But happy.
> Then I went to sleep.
Ah, a much-needed humour injection has been applied to the thread. Excellent.
Not that I in any way believe the issues being discussed here to be unworthy of sustained serious consideration.
Amen.
> I overcame my jeans.
> She was furious, I felt inadequate. But happy.
> Then I went to sleep.
Ah, a much-needed humour injection has been applied to the thread. Excellent.
Not that I in any way believe the issues being discussed here to be unworthy of sustained serious consideration.
Amen.
Wookiee, I can't help but hope that in the future your life falls apart and that you turn to some form of substance abuse so you know what a stunning lack of understanding or compassion you're demonstrating.
This is not the first time I thought you were ridiculous because of your views expressed on these forums. I seem to remember that after the 9/11 attacks you said some things that gave me pretty much the same low opinion of you. Half the time you just sound to me like one of those sad, embittered little reactionaries that find themselves writing in to the Daily Mail on a regular basis.
But we're all entitled to our opinions I guess.
This is not the first time I thought you were ridiculous because of your views expressed on these forums. I seem to remember that after the 9/11 attacks you said some things that gave me pretty much the same low opinion of you. Half the time you just sound to me like one of those sad, embittered little reactionaries that find themselves writing in to the Daily Mail on a regular basis.
But we're all entitled to our opinions I guess.
How long has he had the new liver?
How many times has he abused it?
How well do you know him and his problems?
How are you able to judge someone without being in the same situation?
I thought this was just a hiccup and not a major thing, he certainly looked fit and healthy in his own garden yesterday.
How can anyone possibly state that giving it to a young person with their whole life ahead of them would have been a better decision. Are we getting in to realms of 'Minority Report' here. I haven't seen the film but wasn't it something to do with arresting people before they committed a crime. Are we now able to see into the future and decide that this life we are not going to save because they will become a murderer / rapist / arsonist etc or abuse the gift but we will save this life because they will lead a quite sheltered life and cause no harm or offence?
It wasn't given to him because he was famous, it was given to him because he was ill and needed a life saving operation.
I agree with DebUK, at the moment either everyone is entitled to treatment or no one is. It is only in the future when treatment for illness will become elitist.
How many times has he abused it?
How well do you know him and his problems?
How are you able to judge someone without being in the same situation?
I thought this was just a hiccup and not a major thing, he certainly looked fit and healthy in his own garden yesterday.
How can anyone possibly state that giving it to a young person with their whole life ahead of them would have been a better decision. Are we getting in to realms of 'Minority Report' here. I haven't seen the film but wasn't it something to do with arresting people before they committed a crime. Are we now able to see into the future and decide that this life we are not going to save because they will become a murderer / rapist / arsonist etc or abuse the gift but we will save this life because they will lead a quite sheltered life and cause no harm or offence?
It wasn't given to him because he was famous, it was given to him because he was ill and needed a life saving operation.
I agree with DebUK, at the moment either everyone is entitled to treatment or no one is. It is only in the future when treatment for illness will become elitist.
I think I'd have to agree with Wookiee - the way I see it once you get SOMEONE ELSE'S liver, then you have to stop. It's not really excusable. To say you have an addiction doesn't seem to hold much water when thousands have overcome theirs.
However I say "I'd have to" because it seems to me as if he had a few drinks one day, and it's been blown out of proportion by the media. Not the massive "falling off the wagon" I was led to believe - although to be honest I'm still not sure on the details here.
However I say "I'd have to" because it seems to me as if he had a few drinks one day, and it's been blown out of proportion by the media. Not the massive "falling off the wagon" I was led to believe - although to be honest I'm still not sure on the details here.
Sorry but I have to stick up for Wookiee here because I can definitely see where he's coming from.
Whether Best can help it or not is not really the point, the fact is there are people out there who probably deserve it more than him - young accident victims, probably kids, who have their whole lives in front of them and won't spend most of their years down the pub drinking their lives away.
Obviously, being who he is though, Best got the new liver. And now, even despite the fact that it will make him feel sick and it will probably kill him, he's back down the pub and apparently drinking again. As Wookiee said, it's an insult to the family of the donor.
Lets hope Best can regain himself, because otherwise it will be a waste of a good liver that could have gone to somebody far more deserving in my opinion.
Whether Best can help it or not is not really the point, the fact is there are people out there who probably deserve it more than him - young accident victims, probably kids, who have their whole lives in front of them and won't spend most of their years down the pub drinking their lives away.
Obviously, being who he is though, Best got the new liver. And now, even despite the fact that it will make him feel sick and it will probably kill him, he's back down the pub and apparently drinking again. As Wookiee said, it's an insult to the family of the donor.
Lets hope Best can regain himself, because otherwise it will be a waste of a good liver that could have gone to somebody far more deserving in my opinion.
I'm not paid to have an opinion.
But...
His other Liver lasted him 30 years of pretty solid drinking, so this one should last him till he dies of somthin else.
But...
His other Liver lasted him 30 years of pretty solid drinking, so this one should last him till he dies of somthin else.
Or†ega wrote:
> Aye, Wookiee doesnt discriminate like that. I remember him saying the
> same sort of things about highbury "legend" David O'leary
> after he pointed out that Ashley Cole is prone to falling over blades
> of grass!
Good. I'm glad to hear it.
Now why don't you give your opinion on what he wrote, instead of harping on about how wonderfully indiscriminating he is.
> Aye, Wookiee doesnt discriminate like that. I remember him saying the
> same sort of things about highbury "legend" David O'leary
> after he pointed out that Ashley Cole is prone to falling over blades
> of grass!
Good. I'm glad to hear it.
Now why don't you give your opinion on what he wrote, instead of harping on about how wonderfully indiscriminating he is.
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