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Sat 12/07/03 at 21:26
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This is stupid now.

In the area I live, there are two gangs forming - a bigger one from Epsom, and a slightly smaller one from a small town near Epsom.

Now this is just annoying. Instead of having one or two people walking round, now pretty much every One-Stop has a group of about 25 people outside wearing Nickelson t-shirts and hats slanted up.

Now this isn't really a problem for me - I'm black, young, and fairly well built, so I don't get any trouble - people seem to respect black people more, so i usually just get a few nods and 'alright mate's if I cast my eyes round a crowd of them. However, it is still very intimidating, especially when approaching them or trying to get through them. It also means that at pretty much every train station and street corner there are these people, in bulk, being really loud and swearing a lot - and I've seen several people being terrorised by them.

I mean, it's ruidiculous. As I've said, it doesn't affect me in terms of intimidation or even them trying to raise me, but I do feel sorry for the people who aren't quite as sterotypically feared, as it must be very intimidating, sometimes even scary trying to walk past these people.

There is graffiti everywhere now - mainly people cussing the other gang or writing there gang's tag.

I know theres nothing I can do about it. I just wondered if any of you have stuff like this near you. And where will it lead? Are we going to see England's towns turned into a poor man's 1930's Chicago?
Tue 29/07/03 at 01:02
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SHEEPY wrote:
> Yeah, I would probably be killed in your area.
>
> Little, weak white middle class teenager as myself.

I'm probably smaller and weaker then you...I've just about managed to travel through Asher's town. The area where me and Ash live is generally rough, horrible. I love going to Cornwall each year (I'm Cornish...) as it's completely the opposite of where I live...so calm, peaceful. I wanna move to Spain when I finally reach 30. Get out of this country. I went a few miles up to High Wycombe on Saturday; known for it's rough image. Wrong. It was nice, no trouble, and that was the 'bad' parts. And I'm not being biased, as I support Wycombe and love the place. Heh. Nice stadium. ;c)
Tue 29/07/03 at 00:57
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Asher D wrote:
> I Live in the nice area of Leatherhead, near the Swan Centre. And
> Fetcham is a nice area, rich houses and stuff.

There is a nice area? ;c)

I know where you mean, I think. D'you ever go to Kingston then? Really bad now, for the crews etc. My area is getting worse and worse. I thought it was a nice area, too.

The other side of Kempton Park...*shudders*...they set fire to their own block of flats, the kids there.
Fri 25/07/03 at 16:49
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"Excommunicated"
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Yeah, I would probably be killed in your area.

Little, weak white middle class teenager as myself.
Wed 16/07/03 at 21:13
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Posts: 9,494
DW wrote:
> Hoho. Fine, I'll diss them and then say where I live. :c)
>
> Leatherhead is a right crap whole. Ashtead is the same. Leatherhead is
> not as bad as Ashtead IMO, but both still suck. Leatherhead is only as
> big as it is cos it's so like Junction 11 of the M25. And cos of
> Chessington World of Adventures. Never been to Bookham, nor have I
> been to Fetcham. Heard that the latter is a dump too. Dunno though.
>


I Live in the nice area of Leatherhead, near the Swan Centre. And Fetcham is a nice area, rich houses and stuff.
Sun 13/07/03 at 19:12
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Essex in some places is terrible with gangs..

Towns and villages all form their own 'crews' as they like to call it. In the schools they have little splinter crews and they all go against each other. It gets violent, little kids get roped into these gangs as peer pressure takes its toll.

It gets really violent as well, the towns have rucks - at billericay fair a friend of a friend got stabbed...my other mate was at a station when his mate got stabbed in the neck! It is mostly what we call 'trendys'...my boyfriend and his mates have had several incidents as well as me where prejudice forms and violence breaks out from the gangs towards people that arent seen as so trendy...

whole thing disgraceful, it aint safe to go anywhere alone and as a 17 year old female i hate walking alone in the evenings feel pretty damn vulnerable! some of my family live in Bethnal Green (east end of london) and everything is about ten times worse there due to racism etc. But, its slowly making its way out of the cities and heading towards towns and near by areas
Sun 13/07/03 at 18:33
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Hoho. Fine, I'll diss them and then say where I live. :c)

Leatherhead is a right crap whole. Ashtead is the same. Leatherhead is not as bad as Ashtead IMO, but both still suck. Leatherhead is only as big as it is cos it's so like Junction 11 of the M25. And cos of Chessington World of Adventures. Never been to Bookham, nor have I been to Fetcham. Heard that the latter is a dump too. Dunno though.

I live over the back of Kempton Park. :cD

Should I have said that? Erm, I was lying...yeah. I live in Kingston.

So, where do you live again Asher? :c|
Sun 13/07/03 at 18:03
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DW wrote:
> What's the town near Epson?
>
> Euell? Is that how it's spelt? :cD
>
> Where are you from Asher, other side of Kingston?

Leatherhead or Ashtead or Bookham or Fetcham.

Im not gonna diss these people then tell them where I live.
Sat 12/07/03 at 23:31
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We apparently had something like this on our estate today.

I was woken this morning by a helicopter hovering abuot 300 feet up and about 400 yards away, over our local shops.

I've since found out that it was - and I quote - "gang trouble". Earlier there had been a large group of white youths gathered outside the shops, and a little later, a gang of black youths.

Please note, I'm not trying to start any race discussions, I'm just repeating what I was told.

The white gang had been blasting music out of their car stereos, while the black gang had been blasting music out of a "ghetto blaster" (politically incorrect term I know, but at least you all know what I'm talking about).

Neither gang - so I'm told - had bothered anybody, but I've no doubt that people going to and from the shops found both gangs equally intimidating, and no doubt it was one or more of the shop owners who called the police.

Thing is, these two gangs seem to have appeared out of nowhere - we usually have groups of teenagers, but never large gangs as I'm told these were. Maybe they've been moved on from another nearby estate? Who knows?

But there hasn't been any trouble so far.

*Crosses fingers*
Sat 12/07/03 at 22:53
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"Best Price @ GAME :"
Posts: 3,812
We need zero tolerance policing to be brought into force across the country.
Sat 12/07/03 at 22:22
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"Not a Jew"
Posts: 7,532
Near me there is a small village, and a lot of new houses were built there in a huge estate - over 100 houses - and we got a lot of townies moiving in. They did a lot of vandalism, smashing shop widows etc. The police did F.A which is no surprise as the police in N.Ireland are crap. Anyway, the gang has cooled off a bit now, hopefully they won't start up again.

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