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This is stupid now.

In the area I live, there are two gangs forming - a bigger one from Epsom, and a slightly smaller one from a small town near Epsom.

Now this is just annoying. Instead of having one or two people walking round, now pretty much every One-Stop has a group of about 25 people outside wearing Nickelson t-shirts and hats slanted up.

Now this isn't really a problem for me - I'm black, young, and fairly well built, so I don't get any trouble - people seem to respect black people more, so i usually just get a few nods and 'alright mate's if I cast my eyes round a crowd of them. However, it is still very intimidating, especially when approaching them or trying to get through them. It also means that at pretty much every train station and street corner there are these people, in bulk, being really loud and swearing a lot - and I've seen several people being terrorised by them.

I mean, it's ruidiculous. As I've said, it doesn't affect me in terms of intimidation or even them trying to raise me, but I do feel sorry for the people who aren't quite as sterotypically feared, as it must be very intimidating, sometimes even scary trying to walk past these people.

There is graffiti everywhere now - mainly people cussing the other gang or writing there gang's tag.

I know theres nothing I can do about it. I just wondered if any of you have stuff like this near you. And where will it lead? Are we going to see England's towns turned into a poor man's 1930's Chicago?

Essex in some places is terrible with gangs..

Towns and villages all form their own 'crews' as they like to call it. In the schools they have little splinter crews and they all go against each other. It gets violent, little kids get roped into these gangs as peer pressure takes its toll.

It gets really violent as well, the towns have rucks - at billericay fair a friend of a friend got stabbed...my other mate was at a station when his mate got stabbed in the neck! It is mostly what we call 'trendys'...my boyfriend and his mates have had several incidents as well as me where prejudice forms and violence breaks out from the gangs towards people that arent seen as so trendy...

whole thing disgraceful, it aint safe to go anywhere alone and as a 17 year old female i hate walking alone in the evenings feel pretty damn vulnerable! some of my family live in Bethnal Green (east end of london) and everything is about ten times worse there due to racism etc. But, its slowly making its way out of the cities and heading towards towns and near by areas

DW wrote:
> Hoho. Fine, I'll diss them and then say where I live. :c)
>
> Leatherhead is a right crap whole. Ashtead is the same. Leatherhead is
> not as bad as Ashtead IMO, but both still suck. Leatherhead is only as
> big as it is cos it's so like Junction 11 of the M25. And cos of
> Chessington World of Adventures. Never been to Bookham, nor have I
> been to Fetcham. Heard that the latter is a dump too. Dunno though.
>


I Live in the nice area of Leatherhead, near the Swan Centre. And Fetcham is a nice area, rich houses and stuff.

Yeah, I would probably be killed in your area.

Little, weak white middle class teenager as myself.

Asher D wrote:
> I Live in the nice area of Leatherhead, near the Swan Centre. And
> Fetcham is a nice area, rich houses and stuff.

There is a nice area? ;c)

I know where you mean, I think. D'you ever go to Kingston then? Really bad now, for the crews etc. My area is getting worse and worse. I thought it was a nice area, too.

The other side of Kempton Park...*shudders*...they set fire to their own block of flats, the kids there.

SHEEPY wrote:
> Yeah, I would probably be killed in your area.
>
> Little, weak white middle class teenager as myself.

I'm probably smaller and weaker then you...I've just about managed to travel through Asher's town. The area where me and Ash live is generally rough, horrible. I love going to Cornwall each year (I'm Cornish...) as it's completely the opposite of where I live...so calm, peaceful. I wanna move to Spain when I finally reach 30. Get out of this country. I went a few miles up to High Wycombe on Saturday; known for it's rough image. Wrong. It was nice, no trouble, and that was the 'bad' parts. And I'm not being biased, as I support Wycombe and love the place. Heh. Nice stadium. ;c)

asher. tell the police and get your mum etc. to tell them aswell to make sure they know about it. tell them about the graffiti. if the coppas think they can nick them then they might take action. if the gangs keep getting done: more and more serious actions will be taken, they might be straightened out a bit and they might be broken up. if you dont do anything, nothing happens.

its unhappy to see this stuff is happening everywhere. theyre trying to act hard and rude, but really theyre just sad and cowardly for picking on peoples fears. after all you never see them take on a couple of big men, because in truth they would end up as bad as the big guys.

A tazer is the answer.
And an army of cats/bats/molested rats if you can manage it.

Clazon wrote:
> asher. tell the police and get your mum etc. to tell them

Heh, that made me laugh. I'm 23 you know, and I'm not sad.

in response to the rest, the only way it'll evr cease is if we transport half of The Bronx here, then all the silly whiteboys will stay inside all day.

a) sorry for thinking you were younger than 23
b) my point was if the police get enough complaints theyll do something in the end (train muggings at my station were reported by 20+ people so coppas turn up there everynowandagain for a couple of months)
c) take a baseball bat and hit them all upside the head if you think your tough enough. theyll respect you for it and when youre on the inside, you can say

pweese mr.gangster, can you relocate your assossiates and yourself pweese?

sorry but thats all the advice i have.

gerrid wrote:
> A tazer is the answer.
> And an army of cats/bats/molested rats if you can manage it.

Nay, a taser has only one shot in it. Now a can of pepper spray, that could take down a whole gang.