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As you know I can't reply so I'm posting my point as a new topic:
It was mentioned on SR that PS2 games can't currently even come near to the quality and playability, etc of Dreamcast games!
In my opinion I think that PS2 games will get better! There graphics will be improved upon, the sound quality will get better, games will be more playable and so on!
Remember the PS2 which I will not touch with radiation proof gloves has only been out for less than a month so the games will have been rushed a lot like the console was for it's release!
However this does not mean I have changed my opinion at all about Sony! I still hate their console market! I've got a great diskman from them though!
It was mentioned on SR that PS2 games can't currently even come near to the quality and playability, etc of Dreamcast games!
In my opinion I think that PS2 games will get better! There graphics will be improved upon, the sound quality will get better, games will be more playable and so on!
Remember the PS2 which I will not touch with radiation proof gloves has only been out for less than a month so the games will have been rushed a lot like the console was for it's release!
However this does not mean I have changed my opinion at all about Sony! I still hate their console market! I've got a great diskman from them though!
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Dan2K1 wrote:
> I've just been playing VF2 on the Sega Saturn, and although the
> graphics are dated and the characters seem to fly when they jump,
> the game is still a superbly playable affair! It took me ages to
> find out how to throw, but the game is very impressive, but still
> ultimately lacking.
I don't think there are any perfect games on
> any console - we will always find things to pick at, however I must
> say NiGHTS was pretty close to pefection.
Ant, I
> despair:
'Errrrr...may I just point out the some of the PS2 games
> out at the moment are awesome??
I don't care what people say,
> TTT rules, Smuggler's Run kicks @ss, and in a few weeks we'll have
> the best driving game EVER-GT3!!!'
1. Gran Turismo 3 is out in
> June in the UK, and I doubt if it will live up to theose screen
> shots at game revolution.com.
2. TTT is so poor! But then you
> don't know what Soul Calibur is like.
3. Smuggler's run.
> Hmmm.
4. None of the games on PS2 are awesome in my view, but
> they are in yours because you don't know about the Dreamcast games
> which are on a whole new better level than PS2 games.
It's like a
> group of people - they've been trapped in the UK for all their lives
> waiting for a day of sunshine - eventually they get a few hours of
> Brightness, but then drizzle rules over it. These people are nearly
> always miserable - like the weather.
Then there's another group,
> they have chosen to move away from the UK and now live in Florida -
> they have Sunshine everyday! These people are so much happier than
> the rainy people! Ok, so there are occasional Tornados etc with this
> group (i.e. Roadsters), but the majority is sunshine.
One group
> are Dreamcast owners - the others - they are PS2 owners.
You
> know what I'm trying to say.
Blah blah blah TTT kicks @ss, at least the PS2 will still have new games coming out in March AND Smuggler's Run is rather fun.
I can't be bothered to reply to people who just can't take that the PS2 is the best console and will for a while to come.
> I've just been playing VF2 on the Sega Saturn, and although the
> graphics are dated and the characters seem to fly when they jump,
> the game is still a superbly playable affair! It took me ages to
> find out how to throw, but the game is very impressive, but still
> ultimately lacking.
I don't think there are any perfect games on
> any console - we will always find things to pick at, however I must
> say NiGHTS was pretty close to pefection.
Ant, I
> despair:
'Errrrr...may I just point out the some of the PS2 games
> out at the moment are awesome??
I don't care what people say,
> TTT rules, Smuggler's Run kicks @ss, and in a few weeks we'll have
> the best driving game EVER-GT3!!!'
1. Gran Turismo 3 is out in
> June in the UK, and I doubt if it will live up to theose screen
> shots at game revolution.com.
2. TTT is so poor! But then you
> don't know what Soul Calibur is like.
3. Smuggler's run.
> Hmmm.
4. None of the games on PS2 are awesome in my view, but
> they are in yours because you don't know about the Dreamcast games
> which are on a whole new better level than PS2 games.
It's like a
> group of people - they've been trapped in the UK for all their lives
> waiting for a day of sunshine - eventually they get a few hours of
> Brightness, but then drizzle rules over it. These people are nearly
> always miserable - like the weather.
Then there's another group,
> they have chosen to move away from the UK and now live in Florida -
> they have Sunshine everyday! These people are so much happier than
> the rainy people! Ok, so there are occasional Tornados etc with this
> group (i.e. Roadsters), but the majority is sunshine.
One group
> are Dreamcast owners - the others - they are PS2 owners.
You
> know what I'm trying to say.
Blah blah blah TTT kicks @ss, at least the PS2 will still have new games coming out in March AND Smuggler's Run is rather fun.
I can't be bothered to reply to people who just can't take that the PS2 is the best console and will for a while to come.
TTT doesn't even touch SC - i'd like to see someone try and beat me with button bashing tactics !
As for Shenmue, i don't think you can really class the games as sequals. Its a story thats been broken down into many parts - a lot like star wars. Most sequals are something that is just added on later with new this and new that with the main female characters going up by another 3 or 4 bra sizes.
Final Fantasy games are sequals because the stories to that series are stand alone games rather than follow ups. But Shenmue is something different in that its not something thats followed up because the original has become popular. Its always been planned to cover over an amount of games because it is such a big story.
As for Shenmue, i don't think you can really class the games as sequals. Its a story thats been broken down into many parts - a lot like star wars. Most sequals are something that is just added on later with new this and new that with the main female characters going up by another 3 or 4 bra sizes.
Final Fantasy games are sequals because the stories to that series are stand alone games rather than follow ups. But Shenmue is something different in that its not something thats followed up because the original has become popular. Its always been planned to cover over an amount of games because it is such a big story.
FF8 had a much more fiddly junctioning system, but once I got the hang of it I realised that there were many more ways to develop the team characters then in 7, plus some of those FMV sequences were out of this world.
FF7 and more sub-quests, but FF8 just edged it for all those twiddly bits, which I like in a game.
Twiddly should be defined as an integral function of any gameplay. IMHO. It's not for everyone though.
FF7 and more sub-quests, but FF8 just edged it for all those twiddly bits, which I like in a game.
Twiddly should be defined as an integral function of any gameplay. IMHO. It's not for everyone though.
FantasyMeister wrote:
> In order of preference for me, after having played them all:
>1) Final Fantasy VIII
>2) Shenmue
>3) Final Fantasy VII
Do you really think FF8 is better than FF7?
I thought it looked better, but was far too short in comparison to all then other FFs
-IB
> In order of preference for me, after having played them all:
>1) Final Fantasy VIII
>2) Shenmue
>3) Final Fantasy VII
Do you really think FF8 is better than FF7?
I thought it looked better, but was far too short in comparison to all then other FFs
-IB
Since Shenmue was released (an original title) there has been much speak of the next part in the saga.
Sequels are not a bad thing!
It depends if the sequel is exactly the same as the first - in the case of FIFA and Tomb Raider - sequels are a bad thing. Shenmue doesn't really have a sequel - it'll be different. Ok so, Ridge Racer - many sequels, but still it changed throughout, still poor though.
SC is so much better than TTT, but then thats my opinion.
Sequels are not a bad thing!
It depends if the sequel is exactly the same as the first - in the case of FIFA and Tomb Raider - sequels are a bad thing. Shenmue doesn't really have a sequel - it'll be different. Ok so, Ridge Racer - many sequels, but still it changed throughout, still poor though.
SC is so much better than TTT, but then thats my opinion.
In order of preference for me, after having played them all:
1) Final Fantasy VIII
2) Shenmue
3) Final Fantasy VII
And for me to put a DC game above a FF game, that's saying something, but it still wasn't as playable for me as FF8. Great graphics though.
1) Final Fantasy VIII
2) Shenmue
3) Final Fantasy VII
And for me to put a DC game above a FF game, that's saying something, but it still wasn't as playable for me as FF8. Great graphics though.
1. Gran Turismo 3 is out in
June in the UK, and I doubt if it will live up to theose screen shots at game revolution.com.
Oh, I think it will!!
2. TTT is so poor! But then you don't know what Soul Calibur is like.
I've played Soul Calibur on the DC an while it's good, it's too easy and a bit dull after a while. The graphics are good, but there's little skill involved - button bashing really!
TTT has flaws, but is a more involving and playable game. The graphics are better (Probably) than SC and if I had to choose one it'de have to be TTT.
June in the UK, and I doubt if it will live up to theose screen shots at game revolution.com.
Oh, I think it will!!
2. TTT is so poor! But then you don't know what Soul Calibur is like.
I've played Soul Calibur on the DC an while it's good, it's too easy and a bit dull after a while. The graphics are good, but there's little skill involved - button bashing really!
TTT has flaws, but is a more involving and playable game. The graphics are better (Probably) than SC and if I had to choose one it'de have to be TTT.
***[email protected]*** wrote:
> The PS2 is a good console but it will probably be getting sequels
> after sequels, why????? new ideas please.
Since Shenmue was released (an original title) there has been much speak of the next part in the saga.
Sequels are not a bad thing!
> The PS2 is a good console but it will probably be getting sequels
> after sequels, why????? new ideas please.
Since Shenmue was released (an original title) there has been much speak of the next part in the saga.
Sequels are not a bad thing!
I've just been playing VF2 on the Sega Saturn, and although the graphics are dated and the characters seem to fly when they jump, the game is still a superbly playable affair! It took me ages to find out how to throw, but the game is very impressive, but still ultimately lacking.
I don't think there are any perfect games on any console - we will always find things to pick at, however I must say NiGHTS was pretty close to pefection.
Ant, I despair:
'Errrrr...may I just point out the some of the PS2 games out at the moment are awesome??
I don't care what people say, TTT rules, Smuggler's Run kicks @ss, and in a few weeks we'll have the best driving game EVER-GT3!!!'
1. Gran Turismo 3 is out in June in the UK, and I doubt if it will live up to theose screen shots at game revolution.com.
2. TTT is so poor! But then you don't know what Soul Calibur is like.
3. Smuggler's run. Hmmm.
4. None of the games on PS2 are awesome in my view, but they are in yours because you don't know about the Dreamcast games which are on a whole new better level than PS2 games.
It's like a group of people - they've been trapped in the UK for all their lives waiting for a day of sunshine - eventually they get a few hours of Brightness, but then drizzle rules over it. These people are nearly always miserable - like the weather.
Then there's another group, they have chosen to move away from the UK and now live in Florida - they have Sunshine everyday! These people are so much happier than the rainy people! Ok, so there are occasional Tornados etc with this group (i.e. Roadsters), but the majority is sunshine.
One group are Dreamcast owners - the others - they are PS2 owners.
You know what I'm trying to say.
I don't think there are any perfect games on any console - we will always find things to pick at, however I must say NiGHTS was pretty close to pefection.
Ant, I despair:
'Errrrr...may I just point out the some of the PS2 games out at the moment are awesome??
I don't care what people say, TTT rules, Smuggler's Run kicks @ss, and in a few weeks we'll have the best driving game EVER-GT3!!!'
1. Gran Turismo 3 is out in June in the UK, and I doubt if it will live up to theose screen shots at game revolution.com.
2. TTT is so poor! But then you don't know what Soul Calibur is like.
3. Smuggler's run. Hmmm.
4. None of the games on PS2 are awesome in my view, but they are in yours because you don't know about the Dreamcast games which are on a whole new better level than PS2 games.
It's like a group of people - they've been trapped in the UK for all their lives waiting for a day of sunshine - eventually they get a few hours of Brightness, but then drizzle rules over it. These people are nearly always miserable - like the weather.
Then there's another group, they have chosen to move away from the UK and now live in Florida - they have Sunshine everyday! These people are so much happier than the rainy people! Ok, so there are occasional Tornados etc with this group (i.e. Roadsters), but the majority is sunshine.
One group are Dreamcast owners - the others - they are PS2 owners.
You know what I'm trying to say.
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