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The person writing the article isn't at all biased ... '... pity he didn't drown in it' ..
The person writing the article isn't at all biased ... '... pity he didn't drown in it' ..
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Seifer wrote:
> I've always been as against the death penalty for two main
> reasons
>
> 1.I dont believe that a civilized country should ever uphold
> murder as legally justified in any circumstances.
>
> 2.There are always mistakes made.
>
> Yeah but people who commit these crimes and ARE guilty because
> they've confessed or been found out, dont you think they deserve
> to die? they've just slaughtered somebody because they wanted too
> and what they get as a punishment is a room to live in with jobs
> inside the prison to give them money for luxuries. Look at
> Paedophiles, in my opinion the sickest of all crimes, they get
> days out and if you read up on cases they live in open prisons
> and have access to villages etc, in my opinion that isn't
> morally right, because hes committed a crime he should be
> punished accordingly, not with 5 years cut down too 2 because of
> good behaviour.
>
> Yes i believe mistakes are made but i also think that people who
> commit atrocities deserve to feel the pain that the victims and
> their families felt.
We became a civilized country the day that we abolished the death penalty. If you’re teaching people that killing is wrong by killing them it just doesn’t make sense. Added to that, a lot of these people commit suicide, what does that tell you? That death is considered the easy way out for them?
The best option is hard labour. Put them to work in the prisons to make money for the prison service.
> I've always been as against the death penalty for two main
> reasons
>
> 1.I dont believe that a civilized country should ever uphold
> murder as legally justified in any circumstances.
>
> 2.There are always mistakes made.
>
> Yeah but people who commit these crimes and ARE guilty because
> they've confessed or been found out, dont you think they deserve
> to die? they've just slaughtered somebody because they wanted too
> and what they get as a punishment is a room to live in with jobs
> inside the prison to give them money for luxuries. Look at
> Paedophiles, in my opinion the sickest of all crimes, they get
> days out and if you read up on cases they live in open prisons
> and have access to villages etc, in my opinion that isn't
> morally right, because hes committed a crime he should be
> punished accordingly, not with 5 years cut down too 2 because of
> good behaviour.
>
> Yes i believe mistakes are made but i also think that people who
> commit atrocities deserve to feel the pain that the victims and
> their families felt.
We became a civilized country the day that we abolished the death penalty. If you’re teaching people that killing is wrong by killing them it just doesn’t make sense. Added to that, a lot of these people commit suicide, what does that tell you? That death is considered the easy way out for them?
The best option is hard labour. Put them to work in the prisons to make money for the prison service.
You have a very rosey view of prison. You've also missed my point about getting the wrong person, it's happened in the past, it'll happen in the future. Just because someone is found guilty doesn't mean they are.
Flick the switch, there is no going back and how many innocent people will die then, just because of public bloodlust? Do you think it's ok to execute a couple of innocent people on the basis that most will be guilty, because i bloody dont!
Frankly we should be above demanding a life for a life and i'm amazed that you think murder by state is fine, just because it would be legal.
Flick the switch, there is no going back and how many innocent people will die then, just because of public bloodlust? Do you think it's ok to execute a couple of innocent people on the basis that most will be guilty, because i bloody dont!
Frankly we should be above demanding a life for a life and i'm amazed that you think murder by state is fine, just because it would be legal.
> I've always been as against the death penalty for two main
> reasons
>
> 1.I dont believe that a civilized country should ever uphold
> murder as legally justified in any circumstances.
>
> 2.There are always mistakes made.
Yeah but people who commit these crimes and ARE guilty because they've confessed or been found out, dont you think they deserve to die? they've just slaughtered somebody because they wanted too and what they get as a punishment is a room to live in with jobs inside the prison to give them money for luxuries. Look at Paedophiles, in my opinion the sickest of all crimes, they get days out and if you read up on cases they live in open prisons and have access to villages etc, in my opinion that isn't morally right, because hes committed a crime he should be punished accordingly, not with 5 years cut down too 2 because of good behaviour.
Yes i believe mistakes are made but i also think that people who commit atrocities deserve to feel the pain that the victims and their families felt.
> reasons
>
> 1.I dont believe that a civilized country should ever uphold
> murder as legally justified in any circumstances.
>
> 2.There are always mistakes made.
Yeah but people who commit these crimes and ARE guilty because they've confessed or been found out, dont you think they deserve to die? they've just slaughtered somebody because they wanted too and what they get as a punishment is a room to live in with jobs inside the prison to give them money for luxuries. Look at Paedophiles, in my opinion the sickest of all crimes, they get days out and if you read up on cases they live in open prisons and have access to villages etc, in my opinion that isn't morally right, because hes committed a crime he should be punished accordingly, not with 5 years cut down too 2 because of good behaviour.
Yes i believe mistakes are made but i also think that people who commit atrocities deserve to feel the pain that the victims and their families felt.
Ladybird wrote:
> Is he in a prison or asylum? I mean, if he plead mentally
> insane, he would get natural life in the pen, otherwise I wonder
> why they didn't put him on death row for what he's done..? Is
> there the death penalty in the UK?
>
>
> It seems Capital punishment was abolished in 1998:
I didn't know that. Thought it had been properly abolished in 65, Ruth Ellis last person i think.
As for Huntley, he's in prison.
I've always been as against the death penalty for two main reasons
1.I dont believe that a civilized country should ever uphold murder as legally justified in any circumstances.
2.There are always mistakes made.
> Is he in a prison or asylum? I mean, if he plead mentally
> insane, he would get natural life in the pen, otherwise I wonder
> why they didn't put him on death row for what he's done..? Is
> there the death penalty in the UK?
>
>
> It seems Capital punishment was abolished in 1998:
I didn't know that. Thought it had been properly abolished in 65, Ruth Ellis last person i think.
As for Huntley, he's in prison.
I've always been as against the death penalty for two main reasons
1.I dont believe that a civilized country should ever uphold murder as legally justified in any circumstances.
2.There are always mistakes made.
Is he in a prison or asylum? I mean, if he plead mentally insane, he would get natural life in the pen, otherwise I wonder why they didn't put him on death row for what he's done..? Is there the death penalty in the UK?
It seems Capital punishment was abolished in 1998: See here
This is really interesting to me as well..
(Since Freeola won't let me link it, I'll just write it out and hope it flies.
http://www.richard.clark32.btinternet.co.uk/overview.html
It seems like the US is in the ranking with those Middle Eastern countries. and China, just less violent with killings by injection.
Some people believe that being "kept" whether in a prison or by a husband is all easy street, but I'm sure if you sat down to listen to their story, you'll learn they live in their own private hell. The thing I can't agree on is for the burden of this kept convict to fall on society. My children survive on less annually, than what the government spends to keep him! Somethings not right with that picture.
It is true that a lot of people can't make it on the outside so they commit a crime to be cared for by the government in a prison. Sometimes it's a better environment than what they live on the outside, believe it or not. At least they have three hots and a cot.
The shame isn't that he didn't drown, it's that we'd keep him to begin with. Now we have to spend more money on his medical costs. Pft.
It seems Capital punishment was abolished in 1998: See here
This is really interesting to me as well..
(Since Freeola won't let me link it, I'll just write it out and hope it flies.
http://www.richard.clark32.btinternet.co.uk/overview.html
It seems like the US is in the ranking with those Middle Eastern countries. and China, just less violent with killings by injection.
Some people believe that being "kept" whether in a prison or by a husband is all easy street, but I'm sure if you sat down to listen to their story, you'll learn they live in their own private hell. The thing I can't agree on is for the burden of this kept convict to fall on society. My children survive on less annually, than what the government spends to keep him! Somethings not right with that picture.
It is true that a lot of people can't make it on the outside so they commit a crime to be cared for by the government in a prison. Sometimes it's a better environment than what they live on the outside, believe it or not. At least they have three hots and a cot.
The shame isn't that he didn't drown, it's that we'd keep him to begin with. Now we have to spend more money on his medical costs. Pft.
Alfonse wrote:
> :| How would you know how bad it would be to be in prison?
That's a fair comment ... I'm only going off what I hear in the media or information which is passed on from others.
Seifer wrote:
> It costs our government 37 500 thousand pounds a year to keep one
> prisoner. Imagine high risk prisoners and the money thats spent
> on them.
£37k on one prisoner. :S
> :| How would you know how bad it would be to be in prison?
That's a fair comment ... I'm only going off what I hear in the media or information which is passed on from others.
Seifer wrote:
> It costs our government 37 500 thousand pounds a year to keep one
> prisoner. Imagine high risk prisoners and the money thats spent
> on them.
£37k on one prisoner. :S
It costs our government 37 500 thousand pounds a year to keep one prisoner. Imagine high risk prisoners and the money thats spent on them.
Mob justice, thats what we need!
I am of course being sarcastic. Thankfully the law isn't so hot-headed and vicious in it's punishments as some people would like it to be. Having said that it's not tough enough either.
I am of course being sarcastic. Thankfully the law isn't so hot-headed and vicious in it's punishments as some people would like it to be. Having said that it's not tough enough either.
:| How would you know how bad it would be to be in prison?
Aye, like you say, death can be an easy way out. But then our Prisons need to be run like Prisons, and not holiday camps. In thailand and places like that ... Prisoners work extremely hard every day, working in fields etc. It's a terrible exhausting life, where they face injury and illness every day.
That is punishment ... not having your meals made for you, living in a comfortable cell in a heated building. No doubt with a communal TV to watch, literature to read, other luxuries ...
That is punishment ... not having your meals made for you, living in a comfortable cell in a heated building. No doubt with a communal TV to watch, literature to read, other luxuries ...
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