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*Spoilers From Reloaded*
A lot of my friends including me were entirely baffled by most of what the Architect said. I'm watching the film again tonight but I have found a transcript of that entire scene for people who have seen it to piF**k at:
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The Architect - Hello, Neo.
Neo - Who are you?
The Architect - I am the Architect. I created the matrix. I've been waiting for you. You have many questions, and although the process has altered your consciousness, you remain irrevocably human. Ergo, some of my answers you will understand, and some of them you will not. Concordantly, while your first question may be the most pertinent, you may or may not realize it is also irrelevant.
Neo - Why am I here?
The Architect - Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the programming of the matrix. You are the eventuality of an anomaly, which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision. While it remains a burden to sedulously avoid it, it is not unexpected, and thus not beyond a measure of control. Which has led you, inexorably, here.
Neo - You haven't answered my question.
The Architect - Quite right. Interesting. That was quiF**ker than the others.
*The responses of the other Ones appear on the monitors: "Others? What others? How many? Answer me!"*
The Architect - The matrix is older than you know. I prefer counting from the emergence of one integral anomaly to the emergence of the next, in which case this is the sixth version.
*Again, the responses of the other Ones appear on the monitors: "Five versions? Three? I've been lied too. This is b******t."*
Neo: There are only two possible explanations: either no one told me, or no one knows.
The Architect - Precisely. As you are undoubtedly gathering, the anomaly's systemic, creating fluctuations in even the most simplistic equations.
*Once again, the responses of the other Ones appear on the monitors: "You can't control me! F*F**k you! I'm going to kill you! You can't make me do anything!*
Neo - Choice. The problem is choice.
*The scene cuts to Trinity fighting an agent, and then baF**k to the Architect's room*
The Architect - The first matrix I designed was quite naturally perfect, it was a work of art, flawless, sublime. A triumph equaled only by its monumental failure. The inevitability of its doom is as apparent to me now as a consequence of the imperfection inherent in every human being, thus I redesigned it based on your history to more accurately reflect the varying grotesqueries of your nature. However, I was again frustrated by failure. I have since come to understand that the answer eluded me because it required a lesser mind, or perhaps a mind less bound by the parameters of perfection. Thus, the answer was stumbled upon by another, an intuitive program, initially created to investigate certain aspects of the human psyche. If I am the father of the matrix, she would undoubtedly be its mother.
Neo - The Oracle.
The Architect - Please. As I was saying, she stumbled upon a solution whereby nearly 99.9% of all test subjects accepted the program, as long as they were given a choice, even if they were only aware of the choice at a near unconscious level. While this answer functioned, it was obviously fundamentally flawed, thus creating the otherwise contradictory systemic anomaly, that if left uncheF**ked might threaten the system itself. Ergo, those that refused the program, while a minority, if uncheF**ked, would constitute an escalating probability of disaster.
Neo - This is about Zion.
The Architect - You are here because Zion is about to be destroyed. Its every living inhabitant terminated, its entire existence eradicated.
Neo - Bullsh!t.
*The responses of the other Ones appear on the monitors: "Bullsh1t!"*
The Architect - Denial is the most predictable of all human responses. But, rest assured, this will be the sixth time we have destroyed it, and we have become exceedingly efficient at it.
*Scene cuts to Trinity fighting an agent, and then baF**k to the Architects room.*
The Architect - The function of the One is now to return to the source, allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry, reinserting the prime program. After which you will be required to select from the matrix 23 individuals, 16 female, 7 male, to rebuild Zion. Failure to comply with this process will result in a cataclysmic system crash killing everyone connected to the matrix, which coupled with the extermination of Zion will ultimately result in the extinction of the entire human race.
Neo - You won't let it happen, you can't. You need human beings to survive.
The Architect - There are levels of survival we are prepared to accept. However, the relevant issue is whether or not you are ready to accept the responsibility for the death of every human being in this world.
*The Architect presses a button on a pen that he is holding, and images of people from all over the matrix appear on the monitors*
The Architect - It is interesting reading your reactions. Your five predecessors were by design based on a similar predication, a contingent affirmation that was meant to create a profound attachment to the rest of your species, facilitating the function of the one. While the others experienced this in a very general way, your experience is far more specific. Vis-a-vis, love.
*Images of Trinity fighting the agent from Neo's dream appear on the monitors*
Neo - Trinity.
The Architect - Apropos, she entered the matrix to save your life at the cost of her own.
Neo - No!
The Architect - Which brings us at last to the moment of truth, wherein the fundamental flaw is ultimately expressed, and the anomaly revealed as both beginning, and end. There are two doors. The door to your right leads to the source, and the salvation of Zion. The door to the left leads baF**k to the matrix, to her, and to the end of your species. As you adequately put, the problem is choice. But we already know what you're going to do, don't we? Already I can see the chain reaction, the chemical precursors that signal the onset of emotion, designed specifically to overwhelm logic, and reason. An emotion that is already blinding you from the simple, and obvious truth: she is going to die, and there is nothing that you can do to stop it.
*Neo walks to the door on his left*
The Architect - Humph. Hope, it is the quintessential human delusion, simultaneously the source of your greatest strength, and your greatest weakness.
Neo - If I were you, I would hope that we don't meet again.
The Architect - We won't.
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Does he have to use such big words? And why did the guy look like Col. Sanders? This explanes why his chiF**ken is not real, yet tastes so good (just like the Cypher steak :D). So he made the Matrix to peddle his non-chiF**ken food, NOW THIS SHOULD BE THE PLOT...OR IS IT REALLY THE PLOT?
I bet when Neo wakes up he want some "chiF**ken". Heh.
:D
A lot of my friends including me were entirely baffled by most of what the Architect said. I'm watching the film again tonight but I have found a transcript of that entire scene for people who have seen it to piF**k at:
---------------
The Architect - Hello, Neo.
Neo - Who are you?
The Architect - I am the Architect. I created the matrix. I've been waiting for you. You have many questions, and although the process has altered your consciousness, you remain irrevocably human. Ergo, some of my answers you will understand, and some of them you will not. Concordantly, while your first question may be the most pertinent, you may or may not realize it is also irrelevant.
Neo - Why am I here?
The Architect - Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the programming of the matrix. You are the eventuality of an anomaly, which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision. While it remains a burden to sedulously avoid it, it is not unexpected, and thus not beyond a measure of control. Which has led you, inexorably, here.
Neo - You haven't answered my question.
The Architect - Quite right. Interesting. That was quiF**ker than the others.
*The responses of the other Ones appear on the monitors: "Others? What others? How many? Answer me!"*
The Architect - The matrix is older than you know. I prefer counting from the emergence of one integral anomaly to the emergence of the next, in which case this is the sixth version.
*Again, the responses of the other Ones appear on the monitors: "Five versions? Three? I've been lied too. This is b******t."*
Neo: There are only two possible explanations: either no one told me, or no one knows.
The Architect - Precisely. As you are undoubtedly gathering, the anomaly's systemic, creating fluctuations in even the most simplistic equations.
*Once again, the responses of the other Ones appear on the monitors: "You can't control me! F*F**k you! I'm going to kill you! You can't make me do anything!*
Neo - Choice. The problem is choice.
*The scene cuts to Trinity fighting an agent, and then baF**k to the Architect's room*
The Architect - The first matrix I designed was quite naturally perfect, it was a work of art, flawless, sublime. A triumph equaled only by its monumental failure. The inevitability of its doom is as apparent to me now as a consequence of the imperfection inherent in every human being, thus I redesigned it based on your history to more accurately reflect the varying grotesqueries of your nature. However, I was again frustrated by failure. I have since come to understand that the answer eluded me because it required a lesser mind, or perhaps a mind less bound by the parameters of perfection. Thus, the answer was stumbled upon by another, an intuitive program, initially created to investigate certain aspects of the human psyche. If I am the father of the matrix, she would undoubtedly be its mother.
Neo - The Oracle.
The Architect - Please. As I was saying, she stumbled upon a solution whereby nearly 99.9% of all test subjects accepted the program, as long as they were given a choice, even if they were only aware of the choice at a near unconscious level. While this answer functioned, it was obviously fundamentally flawed, thus creating the otherwise contradictory systemic anomaly, that if left uncheF**ked might threaten the system itself. Ergo, those that refused the program, while a minority, if uncheF**ked, would constitute an escalating probability of disaster.
Neo - This is about Zion.
The Architect - You are here because Zion is about to be destroyed. Its every living inhabitant terminated, its entire existence eradicated.
Neo - Bullsh!t.
*The responses of the other Ones appear on the monitors: "Bullsh1t!"*
The Architect - Denial is the most predictable of all human responses. But, rest assured, this will be the sixth time we have destroyed it, and we have become exceedingly efficient at it.
*Scene cuts to Trinity fighting an agent, and then baF**k to the Architects room.*
The Architect - The function of the One is now to return to the source, allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry, reinserting the prime program. After which you will be required to select from the matrix 23 individuals, 16 female, 7 male, to rebuild Zion. Failure to comply with this process will result in a cataclysmic system crash killing everyone connected to the matrix, which coupled with the extermination of Zion will ultimately result in the extinction of the entire human race.
Neo - You won't let it happen, you can't. You need human beings to survive.
The Architect - There are levels of survival we are prepared to accept. However, the relevant issue is whether or not you are ready to accept the responsibility for the death of every human being in this world.
*The Architect presses a button on a pen that he is holding, and images of people from all over the matrix appear on the monitors*
The Architect - It is interesting reading your reactions. Your five predecessors were by design based on a similar predication, a contingent affirmation that was meant to create a profound attachment to the rest of your species, facilitating the function of the one. While the others experienced this in a very general way, your experience is far more specific. Vis-a-vis, love.
*Images of Trinity fighting the agent from Neo's dream appear on the monitors*
Neo - Trinity.
The Architect - Apropos, she entered the matrix to save your life at the cost of her own.
Neo - No!
The Architect - Which brings us at last to the moment of truth, wherein the fundamental flaw is ultimately expressed, and the anomaly revealed as both beginning, and end. There are two doors. The door to your right leads to the source, and the salvation of Zion. The door to the left leads baF**k to the matrix, to her, and to the end of your species. As you adequately put, the problem is choice. But we already know what you're going to do, don't we? Already I can see the chain reaction, the chemical precursors that signal the onset of emotion, designed specifically to overwhelm logic, and reason. An emotion that is already blinding you from the simple, and obvious truth: she is going to die, and there is nothing that you can do to stop it.
*Neo walks to the door on his left*
The Architect - Humph. Hope, it is the quintessential human delusion, simultaneously the source of your greatest strength, and your greatest weakness.
Neo - If I were you, I would hope that we don't meet again.
The Architect - We won't.
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Does he have to use such big words? And why did the guy look like Col. Sanders? This explanes why his chiF**ken is not real, yet tastes so good (just like the Cypher steak :D). So he made the Matrix to peddle his non-chiF**ken food, NOW THIS SHOULD BE THE PLOT...OR IS IT REALLY THE PLOT?
I bet when Neo wakes up he want some "chiF**ken". Heh.
:D
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yes i think we all realise that Bain is being controlled by an Agent Smith.
Dude!
The guy at the end of the movie that was in a comma next to Neo, is BAIN!
Don't you remember when Agent Smith took Over Bain's body in the MAtrix and then entered the phone into the real world in Bain's head?
Don't forget it was Bain that tried to kill Neo in the hallway before they (Morpheus and crew),set off again.
Also during the Council trials when one of the Leaders asked for help to find the NEBECONEZZER, remember BAin begged his Capt. to go out and help, before he was told to STFU!
The guy at the end of the movie that was in a comma next to Neo, is BAIN!
Don't you remember when Agent Smith took Over Bain's body in the MAtrix and then entered the phone into the real world in Bain's head?
Don't forget it was Bain that tried to kill Neo in the hallway before they (Morpheus and crew),set off again.
Also during the Council trials when one of the Leaders asked for help to find the NEBECONEZZER, remember BAin begged his Capt. to go out and help, before he was told to STFU!
Nah, he was just a messenger. Don't hate him.
:-D
He had spent 10 years in the real world and was sick of it, he wanted everything back to the way it was before, except, better, he wanted be someone importat, like an actor.
=D
:-D
He had spent 10 years in the real world and was sick of it, he wanted everything back to the way it was before, except, better, he wanted be someone importat, like an actor.
=D
What if Cypher's a virus, Agent Smith styleee
Cypher was killed by Tank in the first one.
It's just some lookalike.
Lots of people look like him.
FOr example:
My friends uncle looks alarmingly like him.
It's just some lookalike.
Lots of people look like him.
FOr example:
My friends uncle looks alarmingly like him.
*spoiler*
Cypher,
Where does he come into this. He must mean something since he's at the end of the film.
Is he just another virus?
Wasn't he meant to have 'gone back to sleep', according to his deal wih sgent Smith?
Could be the next One?
Could he be a previous One?
Is he the One?
Cypher's a confusing chracter
Cypher,
Where does he come into this. He must mean something since he's at the end of the film.
Is he just another virus?
Wasn't he meant to have 'gone back to sleep', according to his deal wih sgent Smith?
Could be the next One?
Could he be a previous One?
Is he the One?
Cypher's a confusing chracter
Ok this is my speel.
There are some things that the Dub Bros(Warshowski's) love in their movies. Comics, Sci-fi action, and Video GAmes. If you are truely a gamer,been to a couple of Comic Conventions, and watched every STar WArs, Star Trek, StarGAte SG1, or any movie that has the word 'Star' in it, you can pretty much see all of this in the Matrix movies. SO far so good?
NOw for the gamers; Did anyone notice how many Streetfighter moves Morpheus put on the Agent on top of the big rig trailer scene?
He did Guile's Sonic Kick
Chun Li's Spinning bird kick
and all of this was put to an end by the Agent using Ryu's Ha-Doken punch!
LOL
As far as Sci-fi movies;
How many times do we have to see someone or something fly out of a burning structure at the last minute before it's complete and unbelievable destruction. (i.e Neo flying out of the Architect building/ Millileum Falcon out of the Death Star/ Ripley escaping (3x) in Alien movies from explosions of ships or planets.
And then of course comics;
Angled camera shots, Foreground/background skewing, Multiple qoute lines in a single shot, extreme close ups of character faces, darkness everywhwere, etc,etc,etc.....
And for my final rant;
I saw the movie 3 times and I learn something new each time. And also with the help of you guys and gals, I wondered if you noticed this one part or not.
In the scence just after the Keymaker met his maker, he told Morpheus which door he should take and which door Neo to take. Even though you don't actually see Morpheus leave the room, he does get back to 'Reality' on the Nebenconezzer(sp).
NOw IN THAT SCENCE, when Morpheus is rising up in his chair he opens his eyes BEFORE he is diconnected form the jack in the back of his head by dude from OZ.
and then....
Maybe a cut scene after, they show it again, BUT THIS TIME, dude from OZ is behind Morpheus ready to un-Jack him as Morpheus is still rising up,AND MORPHEUS STILL HAS HIS EYES CLOSED until he in un-Jacked from the MAtrix. UUUUUUuuuhhhhh......hmmmmmmm.....WTF?
Is that an editing flaw?
Does that have meaning to the rest of the movie from that point?
Or am I off tangent and looking too deep down the rabbit hole?
Oh, I think an EMP pulse from the other hovercraft is what stopped the Sentinels from getting NEO and the others at the last second.
There are some things that the Dub Bros(Warshowski's) love in their movies. Comics, Sci-fi action, and Video GAmes. If you are truely a gamer,been to a couple of Comic Conventions, and watched every STar WArs, Star Trek, StarGAte SG1, or any movie that has the word 'Star' in it, you can pretty much see all of this in the Matrix movies. SO far so good?
NOw for the gamers; Did anyone notice how many Streetfighter moves Morpheus put on the Agent on top of the big rig trailer scene?
He did Guile's Sonic Kick
Chun Li's Spinning bird kick
and all of this was put to an end by the Agent using Ryu's Ha-Doken punch!
LOL
As far as Sci-fi movies;
How many times do we have to see someone or something fly out of a burning structure at the last minute before it's complete and unbelievable destruction. (i.e Neo flying out of the Architect building/ Millileum Falcon out of the Death Star/ Ripley escaping (3x) in Alien movies from explosions of ships or planets.
And then of course comics;
Angled camera shots, Foreground/background skewing, Multiple qoute lines in a single shot, extreme close ups of character faces, darkness everywhwere, etc,etc,etc.....
And for my final rant;
I saw the movie 3 times and I learn something new each time. And also with the help of you guys and gals, I wondered if you noticed this one part or not.
In the scence just after the Keymaker met his maker, he told Morpheus which door he should take and which door Neo to take. Even though you don't actually see Morpheus leave the room, he does get back to 'Reality' on the Nebenconezzer(sp).
NOw IN THAT SCENCE, when Morpheus is rising up in his chair he opens his eyes BEFORE he is diconnected form the jack in the back of his head by dude from OZ.
and then....
Maybe a cut scene after, they show it again, BUT THIS TIME, dude from OZ is behind Morpheus ready to un-Jack him as Morpheus is still rising up,AND MORPHEUS STILL HAS HIS EYES CLOSED until he in un-Jacked from the MAtrix. UUUUUUuuuhhhhh......hmmmmmmm.....WTF?
Is that an editing flaw?
Does that have meaning to the rest of the movie from that point?
Or am I off tangent and looking too deep down the rabbit hole?
Oh, I think an EMP pulse from the other hovercraft is what stopped the Sentinels from getting NEO and the others at the last second.
No-one remembers the previous Zions because they've never heard of it. Everyone inside the current Zion is destroyed, and Neo then unplugs 23 people (16 females, 7 males) to rebuild Zion again. As the Architect said, the only way the Matrix works is because the people inside have a choice (albeit a very, very small one) to stay inside or leave. Only very few people are aware of the Matrix, and it's those 0.1% that Morpheus does the whole 'red pill, blue pill' scene. So the Architect needs Zion to give the humans a choice, and for the Matrix to survive.
Another thing that's confusing me is how Neo could control the Sentinels at the end of the film...it's just going to be one of those thing's that everyone's going to have a theory about but there are no real clues until the next film. Roll on November...
Another thing that's confusing me is how Neo could control the Sentinels at the end of the film...it's just going to be one of those thing's that everyone's going to have a theory about but there are no real clues until the next film. Roll on November...
The Architect - Please. As I was saying, she stumbled upon a solution whereby nearly 99.9% of all test subjects accepted the program, as long as they were given a choice, even if they were only aware of the choice at a near unconscious level. While this answer functioned, it was obviously fundamentally flawed, thus creating the otherwise contradictory systemic anomaly, that if left unchecked might threaten the system itself.
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If The One were to stay connected to The Matrix at all times he would threaten The entire Matrix, and would be unstoppable. Allowing Zion to exist gives somewhere for him to go, while at the same time taking care of the 0.1% (I was wrong before).
When he chooses the 17, the process simply repeats itself and the Ones code is re-inserted into the Matrix.
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If The One were to stay connected to The Matrix at all times he would threaten The entire Matrix, and would be unstoppable. Allowing Zion to exist gives somewhere for him to go, while at the same time taking care of the 0.1% (I was wrong before).
When he chooses the 17, the process simply repeats itself and the Ones code is re-inserted into the Matrix.
Somewhere for the 1% to go? Again you didn't really answer my question. Why do they let them go? They could just kill the 1% of people who don't accept it, therefore no Zion. And whats the point of letting them build it for them only to destroy it years down the line?
The machines could destroy zion before it ever gets built again maening to ships to hack into the matrix which means neo couldn't be freed.
I think this is a stupid ending for an otherwise great premice.
The machines could destroy zion before it ever gets built again maening to ships to hack into the matrix which means neo couldn't be freed.
I think this is a stupid ending for an otherwise great premice.
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