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Thu 22/05/03 at 23:13
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The first Matrix I am talking about. Having seen Reloaded three times, just for the hell of still wanting to claim its just an 'ok' film. I thought of something when seeing the far superior original.

Cypher. Yeah.. how did he enter the Matrix to talk with Agent Smith in the first film without any of the others knowing. Even though he clearly has to have help unplugging himself.

Hope that ruins the film for you.


Stupid philobabble crap.

Cause and Effect. Pff.

:)
Sun 25/05/03 at 00:04
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er-no wrote:
> Fool. They could have taken anything in (going on the logic they can
> have anything that exists in the Matrix from a computer programme).
> Infact, they could have taken in robots - more to the bloody point. If
> the Animatrix has episodes of ROBOTS (Sentinals) on the 'truth' side -
> surely this should have been used.

What the hell would they have done with a huge robot in a building, anyway? Perhaps, if there was a massive outdoors fight - it could've been feasible - but guns were what they needed for the task. A robot would've been slightly conspicuous under Neo's jacket as he's asked to

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Sun 25/05/03 at 00:00
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er-no wrote:
> I have it 4.6GB. I rock. I sell it outside the cinema makes me
> sponduli.
>
> Its not illegal if it makes you happy.

If you are selling, im interested in buying.
Sat 24/05/03 at 23:59
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Mr Snuggly wrote:
> "It's so obviously CGI"
>
> That's because there's one hundred of the same person beating someone
> up. That can't happen in real life. Obviously.

The technical term is Virtual Cinematography. It's an original technique created by the Wachowski brothers in the hope that it won't be viciously plagiarised a la their excellent Bullet Time.
Sat 24/05/03 at 23:57
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J-42 wrote:
>
> Oh, and for that person who asked, they cannot create 'huge robots' as
> they do not have the skills to program that in - the only one who can
> rewrite the Matrix on such a scale is Neo, and he must do so from
> inside.
>
> As for Cypher getting in and out during the meeting with the agent..
> that's got me stumped. I'll give it another watch soon and maybe I'll
> have an answer.

Fool. They could have taken anything in (going on the logic they can have anything that exists in the Matrix from a computer programme). Infact, they could have taken in robots - more to the bloody point. If the Animatrix has episodes of ROBOTS (Sentinals) on the 'truth' side - surely this should have been used.

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Sat 24/05/03 at 23:55
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Mr Snuggly wrote:
> What I want to know is, why don't they eat stuff in the Construct? If
> it's practically real in there, why not stuff your face in an 'eating'
> program, fooling your brain that you've been well fed? I'd argue
> further, but I don't really care.

The idea is that Morpheus and co. have free minds - they can therefore differentiate between what is, and what isn't real and so, can pull of some uber high jumps and the like. But then to think, no - this world is real, I'm eating properly.. it wouldn't work.
Sat 24/05/03 at 23:52
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BEARDS. wrote:
> Why does he have to use guns? Would non-leathal weaponry not have
> sufficed? I thought he was meant to be saving the people inside the
> Matrix, not brutally killing them.

Morpheus explained that any unplugged person was a potential threat - an enemy - during the 'Lady In Red' training. It's also a way of showing that the cause they're fighting for is so meaningful, that sacrifices have to be made. Besides, what non-lethal, long range weapons did you have in mind?

Oh, and for that person who asked, they cannot create 'huge robots' as they do not have the skills to program that in - the only one who can rewrite the Matrix on such a scale is Neo, and he must do so from inside.

As for Cypher getting in and out during the meeting with the agent.. that's got me stumped. I'll give it another watch soon and maybe I'll have an answer.
Sat 24/05/03 at 23:41
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Kiriyama wrote:
> Goatboy wrote:
> Mr Snuggly wrote:
> "It's so obviously CGI"
> --
>
> I've heard people saying that about The Hulk trailer.
> No kidding? CGI you say? Yeah, because when I watched a 13ft green
> angry man run past my house last week, I was saying "Man,
> they'll
> never make one look as real as that"
>
> CGI when 100 same-man fighting? Get away...
>
> LOL!
>
> I have the DVD (2.1GB :D) and it rocks :D

I have it 4.6GB. I rock. I sell it outside the cinema makes me sponduli.

Its not illegal if it makes you happy.
Sat 24/05/03 at 19:11
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Goatboy wrote:
> Mr Snuggly wrote:
> "It's so obviously CGI"
> --
>
> I've heard people saying that about The Hulk trailer.
> No kidding? CGI you say? Yeah, because when I watched a 13ft green
> angry man run past my house last week, I was saying "Man, they'll
> never make one look as real as that"
>
> CGI when 100 same-man fighting? Get away...

LOL!

I have the DVD (2.1GB :D) and it rocks :D
Sat 24/05/03 at 16:49
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RM18 wrote:
> Did anyone stay for the Revolutions trailer? I wanted to, but the
> deafness-inducing music during the credits forced me out

I saw Reloaded today and my mate insisted we stay for the Revolutions trailer... It appears there are several thousand Agent Smiths lining a city street at one point...
Sat 24/05/03 at 11:46
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Who cares.

Its a film.

FILM DAMMIT!

Just enjoy it and stop nit-picking on everything.

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