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I've not been here the longest time, but I've heard a lot of people talking about how forums have changed. How the quality of posts and posters has dropped, and how it seems to be spreading from forum to forum like some sort of disease.
So, what are the symptoms? How does this disease propagate itself?
Do the newbie's bring it in with them? Are certain ignorant individuals the prime carriers? And above all, how can we stop it?
I have a theory.
Among the symptoms is a certain amount of spamming. I think that this is just a side effect however, or one of the main causes. The forums are being choked. Choked by their own popularity.
What I'm referring to I can only describe as "legal spam threads".
For example the “movie chain” thread, and the “what music are you listening to right now?” thread in the Movies Forum.
PS2 Longest Thread
Word Association
Even the recent Puzzle Thread, which I have enjoyed immensely.
And why are they choking the forums? Well, because if you list the chat rooms, and try and pick out where the new posts are happening often you're not interested in the PS2 longest thread, or the word association thread.
Also these threads often dominate the post lists, remaining at the top and making it less obvious where people have been posting in other threads.
As a consequence after a while people no longer check those forums, the decent posters move elsewhere, and the forums collapse.
Like I said, choked by their own popularity.
So how could we stop this?
Well, I do think that it would be a shame to stop these threads. Perhaps the answer is to try and contain them. Maybe one solution would be to create a new forum for them. A "fast moving threads" forum. Containing these threads means that decent posts will be easier to pick out from all the other forums.
What do you think?
Could this be the cause of some forum's demise?
and could this be a potential solution?
So, what are the symptoms? How does this disease propagate itself?
Do the newbie's bring it in with them? Are certain ignorant individuals the prime carriers? And above all, how can we stop it?
I have a theory.
Among the symptoms is a certain amount of spamming. I think that this is just a side effect however, or one of the main causes. The forums are being choked. Choked by their own popularity.
What I'm referring to I can only describe as "legal spam threads".
For example the “movie chain” thread, and the “what music are you listening to right now?” thread in the Movies Forum.
PS2 Longest Thread
Word Association
Even the recent Puzzle Thread, which I have enjoyed immensely.
And why are they choking the forums? Well, because if you list the chat rooms, and try and pick out where the new posts are happening often you're not interested in the PS2 longest thread, or the word association thread.
Also these threads often dominate the post lists, remaining at the top and making it less obvious where people have been posting in other threads.
As a consequence after a while people no longer check those forums, the decent posters move elsewhere, and the forums collapse.
Like I said, choked by their own popularity.
So how could we stop this?
Well, I do think that it would be a shame to stop these threads. Perhaps the answer is to try and contain them. Maybe one solution would be to create a new forum for them. A "fast moving threads" forum. Containing these threads means that decent posts will be easier to pick out from all the other forums.
What do you think?
Could this be the cause of some forum's demise?
and could this be a potential solution?
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locky1133 wrote:
> What makes you think we want him? He was chosen from a flippant
> democratic vote. I used to have respect for IB, he used to be one of
> us, but now he seems to want to defect. I'm sure he'll smoke me for
> this, and I'll get a load of insults from the n00bs wanting to stick
> up for their precious, superficial notable system, but I don't care.
Now, I'm not chastising you for not wanting IB here. I think the forum benefits from his opinion, whether I agree or not. The forum benefits from anyone who is able to form an opinion on their own. I'm just intrigued how a few posts ago you were decorating a notable with 'pressures' of Notability, and now your claiming it to be a superficial notable system.
> What makes you think we want him? He was chosen from a flippant
> democratic vote. I used to have respect for IB, he used to be one of
> us, but now he seems to want to defect. I'm sure he'll smoke me for
> this, and I'll get a load of insults from the n00bs wanting to stick
> up for their precious, superficial notable system, but I don't care.
Now, I'm not chastising you for not wanting IB here. I think the forum benefits from his opinion, whether I agree or not. The forum benefits from anyone who is able to form an opinion on their own. I'm just intrigued how a few posts ago you were decorating a notable with 'pressures' of Notability, and now your claiming it to be a superficial notable system.
What do you want to find? Independent, self-contented, revolutionary
intellectual, brave, strong and scholarly people? Good luck. It is a chat forum. When you chat with friends, do you use standard English. No, use use slang, colloquialism and idiolect.
intellectual, brave, strong and scholarly people? Good luck. It is a chat forum. When you chat with friends, do you use standard English. No, use use slang, colloquialism and idiolect.
I get, you're Tony!!! hiya Ton, how's it going?
locky1133 wrote:
> What makes you think we want him? He was chosen from a flippant
> democratic vote. I used to have respect for IB, he used to be one of
> us, but now he seems to want to defect. I'm sure he'll smoke me for
> this, and I'll get a load of insults from the n00bs wanting to stick
> up for their precious, superficial notable system, but I don't care.
*shrug*
I'm not fan of the notable system, and to date I've stuck to my word and turned down the "perks" of being anotable, which a number of my counterparts regularly make use of. I could have played the system to the value of £100 by now, and got a couple of people banned that I grossly disliked.
Have I done either? No. I'm acting as I would without the "notable label". I haven't changed, but, and I can't stress this strongly enough, a lot of other people have changed their opinion of me just because I'm a notable.
I've never respected anyone any more or any less for being a notable. The colour of your name on an internet chat forum doesn't dictate what kind of person you are. Sure it attributes a little to ego in some cases, but the whole notable election is designed in such a way as to be a blatant ego massage for the most popular members of the forum.
I could play this site like a two bit piccolo, and run away with free games while at the same time choosing who gets to chat with me on here.
Do I go about doing that?
No.
> What makes you think we want him? He was chosen from a flippant
> democratic vote. I used to have respect for IB, he used to be one of
> us, but now he seems to want to defect. I'm sure he'll smoke me for
> this, and I'll get a load of insults from the n00bs wanting to stick
> up for their precious, superficial notable system, but I don't care.
*shrug*
I'm not fan of the notable system, and to date I've stuck to my word and turned down the "perks" of being anotable, which a number of my counterparts regularly make use of. I could have played the system to the value of £100 by now, and got a couple of people banned that I grossly disliked.
Have I done either? No. I'm acting as I would without the "notable label". I haven't changed, but, and I can't stress this strongly enough, a lot of other people have changed their opinion of me just because I'm a notable.
I've never respected anyone any more or any less for being a notable. The colour of your name on an internet chat forum doesn't dictate what kind of person you are. Sure it attributes a little to ego in some cases, but the whole notable election is designed in such a way as to be a blatant ego massage for the most popular members of the forum.
I could play this site like a two bit piccolo, and run away with free games while at the same time choosing who gets to chat with me on here.
Do I go about doing that?
No.
WHAT THE F*F**K DO YOU WANT?
Insane Bartender wrote:
> but there is only so much I can take of
> chatting to illiterate and ignorant morons.
Maybe people won't like being called illiterate and ignorant and will ignore you.
And where in the world on the Internet is there a chat room for aloof mofos like you?
> but there is only so much I can take of
> chatting to illiterate and ignorant morons.
Maybe people won't like being called illiterate and ignorant and will ignore you.
And where in the world on the Internet is there a chat room for aloof mofos like you?
What do you want to find IB?
looking for a place to fit in, full of adherent people with the same objective? A family to cling to and call brethren . Where truth is determined by consensus, full of codified arbitrary directives?
looking for a place to fit in, full of adherent people with the same objective? A family to cling to and call brethren . Where truth is determined by consensus, full of codified arbitrary directives?
What makes you think we want him? He was chosen from a flippant democratic vote. I used to have respect for IB, he used to be one of us, but now he seems to want to defect. I'm sure he'll smoke me for this, and I'll get a load of insults from the n00bs wanting to stick up for their precious, superficial notable system, but I don't care.
monkey_man wrote:
> OMG, *world's smallest violin*, what a blatant attempt at trying to
> get our attention and sympathy! You ain't getting it that easily!
Take it however you like, but there is only so much I can take of chatting to illiterate and ignorant morons. Sooner or later I have to either accept that I don't belong here and move on, or become an illiterate and ignorant moron myself.
> OMG, *world's smallest violin*, what a blatant attempt at trying to
> get our attention and sympathy! You ain't getting it that easily!
Take it however you like, but there is only so much I can take of chatting to illiterate and ignorant morons. Sooner or later I have to either accept that I don't belong here and move on, or become an illiterate and ignorant moron myself.
locky1133 wrote:
> Then ask to be re-iniated among the sheep. Swop places with the second
> runner. Or sign up under a different name. If all you want to do is
> chat, get a new identity, free from the 'pressures' of Notability.
Notability doesn't have any pressures, bar the occasional person who believes there's more to being a notable than a gold/yellow name.
And I have a number of alternative accounts which grace the forum regularly.
> Then ask to be re-iniated among the sheep. Swop places with the second
> runner. Or sign up under a different name. If all you want to do is
> chat, get a new identity, free from the 'pressures' of Notability.
Notability doesn't have any pressures, bar the occasional person who believes there's more to being a notable than a gold/yellow name.
And I have a number of alternative accounts which grace the forum regularly.
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