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Fri 31/01/03 at 21:50
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Role play.


You choose between coke and fanta. You choose coke. You drink it for five minutes.

If you went back in time five minutes and everything was exactly the same. There is no way you could of chose anything else. No choice= No free will. Everything affects everything.

Think about it.
Fri 31/01/03 at 22:16
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Bear in mind that it is an arguement so there are other sides.

Therefore the debate is: this party proposes that we have no free will.

Yes I am assuming that an experiment inside a vacuum done the same has same results. Universe=vacuum therefore from that arguement, no free will.
Fri 31/01/03 at 22:11
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You're assuming that the universe is purely deterministic. i.e. that if you set up a system with the same initial conditions as before, it will respond in the same manner.

If you're going to get all scientific, then I throw quantum uncertainty (for the microscopic view) and chaos theory (for the macroscopic view) in as arguments against determinism. Seeing as the human brain works on both levels (electron interaction in synapses following quantum theory, and the vast complexity displaying a level of chaotic behaviour), then no, it's likely that sometimes you'd choose fanta.

Unless you didn't like fizzy orange.
Fri 31/01/03 at 22:04
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"gsybe you!"
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Hmm.

I argue that you will never be able to prove that.
Fri 31/01/03 at 22:03
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anyone?
Fri 31/01/03 at 21:50
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Role play.


You choose between coke and fanta. You choose coke. You drink it for five minutes.

If you went back in time five minutes and everything was exactly the same. There is no way you could of chose anything else. No choice= No free will. Everything affects everything.

Think about it.

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