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So, this morning whilst watching Sky News they ran the piece about the lack of support from France, Germany, Russia and China. My Mum - who I sadly admit does read the Daily Mail - said;
"Well that's the end of that, they can't do it without allies."
Most of you know me, and what I was likely to say. I pointed out that America had us, and could do it themselves if they had to, and have said that all along. She then said the greatest bit of Daily Mail thinking yet;
"Well if there's a war they'll start calling people your age up, how'd you like that ?"
At that I let it drop, and because she'd gone to work. Me ? I'm thinking working as a classroom assistant surounded by the appalingly behaved kids they have where she works is finally getting to her.
Even so, the idea of call ups for the Gulf is slightly ridiculous. Why ? Well here's Belldandy's 5 point reasoning on this;
1* It's going to be an American led operation, sure, we've put a quarter of the army in and other assets, but the tip of the spear is the USA at this point. In a non UN campagin the USA will want to take the major places itself where possible, thus absorbing the brunt of the casualties.
2* So far only specialist units have gone out there, reserves are being used for non combatant roles like signals, engineering e.t.c, but the other units are commando (45?), the desert rats armoured division e.t.c. Not regular units, like what happened in the Gulf War. Elite style units take less casualties as they are not used in equal odds fights. Same goes for american deployments.
3* Any campaign will be begun by air strikes, suggested at 1 week minimum.
4* If casualties did spiral to the point where this was suggested then there isn't public support for it anyway, especially not in the UK. Over half the nation doesn't even want to go there let alone send a generation off to war their. In this scenario I think one of two things most likely; a withdrawal from Iraq, or the use of tactical nuclear weapons. Think about it, a situation where our forces are getting massacred this badly would have to be pretty dire, to tip the balance I really do believe that, in the face of mass casualties and a need to quickly win, we'd use the weapons.
5* Mass casualties would, unless WMDs are used, result from a prolonged war. Does anyone seriously think that, in a full on attack, Iraq can hold out any better than last time ? I don't, even if they go urban they ar finished.
So there you have it. Feel free to reply, point by point, to it, or ignore it, or something. Remember it's all about the oil kids..*sigh* Incidentally, again, Sky News played some footage from a protest about the possible war in Iraq, and there were some people from the Fire Brigade with their messages painted on stop the war coalition sign. What has better pay e.t.c got to do with Iraq ? Er...nothing. If the firefighters want to play silly b&ggers like that then let them, but don't be surprised if they lose more support all the time.
~~Belldandy~~
"Well that's the end of that, they can't do it without allies."
Most of you know me, and what I was likely to say. I pointed out that America had us, and could do it themselves if they had to, and have said that all along. She then said the greatest bit of Daily Mail thinking yet;
"Well if there's a war they'll start calling people your age up, how'd you like that ?"
At that I let it drop, and because she'd gone to work. Me ? I'm thinking working as a classroom assistant surounded by the appalingly behaved kids they have where she works is finally getting to her.
Even so, the idea of call ups for the Gulf is slightly ridiculous. Why ? Well here's Belldandy's 5 point reasoning on this;
1* It's going to be an American led operation, sure, we've put a quarter of the army in and other assets, but the tip of the spear is the USA at this point. In a non UN campagin the USA will want to take the major places itself where possible, thus absorbing the brunt of the casualties.
2* So far only specialist units have gone out there, reserves are being used for non combatant roles like signals, engineering e.t.c, but the other units are commando (45?), the desert rats armoured division e.t.c. Not regular units, like what happened in the Gulf War. Elite style units take less casualties as they are not used in equal odds fights. Same goes for american deployments.
3* Any campaign will be begun by air strikes, suggested at 1 week minimum.
4* If casualties did spiral to the point where this was suggested then there isn't public support for it anyway, especially not in the UK. Over half the nation doesn't even want to go there let alone send a generation off to war their. In this scenario I think one of two things most likely; a withdrawal from Iraq, or the use of tactical nuclear weapons. Think about it, a situation where our forces are getting massacred this badly would have to be pretty dire, to tip the balance I really do believe that, in the face of mass casualties and a need to quickly win, we'd use the weapons.
5* Mass casualties would, unless WMDs are used, result from a prolonged war. Does anyone seriously think that, in a full on attack, Iraq can hold out any better than last time ? I don't, even if they go urban they ar finished.
So there you have it. Feel free to reply, point by point, to it, or ignore it, or something. Remember it's all about the oil kids..*sigh* Incidentally, again, Sky News played some footage from a protest about the possible war in Iraq, and there were some people from the Fire Brigade with their messages painted on stop the war coalition sign. What has better pay e.t.c got to do with Iraq ? Er...nothing. If the firefighters want to play silly b&ggers like that then let them, but don't be surprised if they lose more support all the time.
~~Belldandy~~
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Not totally relevant but check out FatMikes new sit, punkvoter.com
It's a serious, though rather amusing butt at President Bush. Just look at some of the images...
Locky
It's a serious, though rather amusing butt at President Bush. Just look at some of the images...
Locky
Ah s*d it, you're right. A lot of people in this country watch mindless crap like Eastenders and Coronation Street, and actually care about the characters. If either area was real the entire population would have moved out long ago with mass depression.....
Our papers have some stupid stuff as headlines, like someone has said earlier, who gives a toss about Popidol ? The same happens each time; winner goes to number 1, whoever was runner up(s) releases songs, sells more, gets number 1, gets knocked off number 1 one week later...repeat every six or so months.
Movies ? God, we're easier to sell to than grass to cows.
In fact when it comes to buying stuff people can be total retards and pay miles more than they should do, simply because they cannot be bothered to look around. I myself am capitalising on this and buying Beyblades - stupid kids toys that's a fancy spinning top - from work, with discount, then reselling to stupid parents on Ebay. On many of them I am making £16 a time for something I buy for £4.80. They could go out and find them, but oh no the sad people sit there and buy from Ebay. Okay, os not everyone in the shop was a moron but I bet it was a 80/20 split...
In fact earning money from Ebay is far more rewarding than my job, which finally ends tomorrow (had to give 4 weeks notice :( ) No longer do I have to serve these morons, talk to them, laugh at their often plain stupidity, but now I get to rip them off where I see the opportunity.
Most excellent, like, I think IB said, this is a world of opportunity.
~~Belldandy~~
Our papers have some stupid stuff as headlines, like someone has said earlier, who gives a toss about Popidol ? The same happens each time; winner goes to number 1, whoever was runner up(s) releases songs, sells more, gets number 1, gets knocked off number 1 one week later...repeat every six or so months.
Movies ? God, we're easier to sell to than grass to cows.
In fact when it comes to buying stuff people can be total retards and pay miles more than they should do, simply because they cannot be bothered to look around. I myself am capitalising on this and buying Beyblades - stupid kids toys that's a fancy spinning top - from work, with discount, then reselling to stupid parents on Ebay. On many of them I am making £16 a time for something I buy for £4.80. They could go out and find them, but oh no the sad people sit there and buy from Ebay. Okay, os not everyone in the shop was a moron but I bet it was a 80/20 split...
In fact earning money from Ebay is far more rewarding than my job, which finally ends tomorrow (had to give 4 weeks notice :( ) No longer do I have to serve these morons, talk to them, laugh at their often plain stupidity, but now I get to rip them off where I see the opportunity.
Most excellent, like, I think IB said, this is a world of opportunity.
~~Belldandy~~
That's a damn sight more interesting than the synopsis you get in the paper for each episode of whatever soap
"Barry makes an interesting discovery about his sister"
"Alf loses his keys and finds a secret admirer"
*head thumps onto desk*
"Barry makes an interesting discovery about his sister"
"Alf loses his keys and finds a secret admirer"
*head thumps onto desk*
OK since you asked:Let's see them recreate the morbundity of Eastenders with a cast of mormons, set in Utah.
Synopsis of Episode one: the whole state is up in arms after someone is found drinking cola. The respected Mr Bobby Smith is diagnosed with a disease only curable with a blood tansfusion the day after being accepted to Harvard, winning the lottery and his fiance had agreed to marry him. A gargantuan version of Harry Ramsdens opens in Salt lake city, draining the area of it's most abundant resource.
Some purdy lady spills some vinegar on her lovely frock. Grubby, the plucky orphan child, befriends a horse called "N", which later appears on the frontage of Harry Ramsdens chip emporium, it's throat slit.
Cryptically the large sign over the door says "Real" then there is a piece of rock salt stuck to the sign, a dead horse and a spolied frock, then the words "served here". Ransden defends his actions by saying paint isn't cheap, especially the sort containing toxic levels of lead that he uses that will poison the City's inhabitants in episode three.
FADE TO OBLIVION
Synopsis of Episode one: the whole state is up in arms after someone is found drinking cola. The respected Mr Bobby Smith is diagnosed with a disease only curable with a blood tansfusion the day after being accepted to Harvard, winning the lottery and his fiance had agreed to marry him. A gargantuan version of Harry Ramsdens opens in Salt lake city, draining the area of it's most abundant resource.
Some purdy lady spills some vinegar on her lovely frock. Grubby, the plucky orphan child, befriends a horse called "N", which later appears on the frontage of Harry Ramsdens chip emporium, it's throat slit.
Cryptically the large sign over the door says "Real" then there is a piece of rock salt stuck to the sign, a dead horse and a spolied frock, then the words "served here". Ransden defends his actions by saying paint isn't cheap, especially the sort containing toxic levels of lead that he uses that will poison the City's inhabitants in episode three.
FADE TO OBLIVION
Has anyone read my post on eastenders as played by mormons?
You know that, I know that. I'm not an intellectual giant, but I dont want my world spoon-fed to me.
It's like being Alice in Wonderland with "Read me" "Watch me" on everything.
But it's not just television/soap operas.
It's this whole thing about life seems to be just surface level for so many people these days. I dont understand why so many people are stupid and it frightens me.
It scares me that people respect Jade from Big Brother or think "She's a good role model" or "has a heart of gold". She may be a nice person, but she's stupid as food. And she's been elevated to celebrity, words that come out of her are reported as if she has anything of value to add to anything at all at any point about anything.
Obsession with celebrity. Celebrity hairdressers, celeb chefs, celeb traffic wardens, celeb woman-who-can't-drive????? Is that what we aspire to be now? Instead of trying to create literature and music that is more than "ooh baby", I should aspire to be Shane Ritchie? An entertainer?
Rory Bremner, Bill Hicks, Lenny Bruce, George Carlin, Richard Pryor, John Simpson....these should be household names and NOT The Mitchell Brothers or Jamie Oliver.
We have our priorities wrong and we're going to pay for it.
It's like being Alice in Wonderland with "Read me" "Watch me" on everything.
But it's not just television/soap operas.
It's this whole thing about life seems to be just surface level for so many people these days. I dont understand why so many people are stupid and it frightens me.
It scares me that people respect Jade from Big Brother or think "She's a good role model" or "has a heart of gold". She may be a nice person, but she's stupid as food. And she's been elevated to celebrity, words that come out of her are reported as if she has anything of value to add to anything at all at any point about anything.
Obsession with celebrity. Celebrity hairdressers, celeb chefs, celeb traffic wardens, celeb woman-who-can't-drive????? Is that what we aspire to be now? Instead of trying to create literature and music that is more than "ooh baby", I should aspire to be Shane Ritchie? An entertainer?
Rory Bremner, Bill Hicks, Lenny Bruce, George Carlin, Richard Pryor, John Simpson....these should be household names and NOT The Mitchell Brothers or Jamie Oliver.
We have our priorities wrong and we're going to pay for it.
Insane Bartender wrote:
> It's not that people don't have the "2" button, but more
> because the mutants can't spare the calorie it takes to switch
> channels.
But if I'm being honest, the real reason is this. I've seen people do this, so I can say it is "the truth".
People look in the TV mag to see what's on. "Nothing on BBC1, nothing on the next channel i look at, ITV, either. Let's see what's on Sky..."
BBC2 is just not even put in contention. The general feeling is that if it's on BBC2, it's because it's not good enough to be on BBC1.
> It's not that people don't have the "2" button, but more
> because the mutants can't spare the calorie it takes to switch
> channels.
But if I'm being honest, the real reason is this. I've seen people do this, so I can say it is "the truth".
People look in the TV mag to see what's on. "Nothing on BBC1, nothing on the next channel i look at, ITV, either. Let's see what's on Sky..."
BBC2 is just not even put in contention. The general feeling is that if it's on BBC2, it's because it's not good enough to be on BBC1.
I watch it because for half an hour a night I can forget stuff and laugh and Shane Ritchie being fat.
I watch so that I can forget about my coursework for half an hour. It is, actually, 1 of only two things I watch on BBC. The other is Life of Mammals. Next weeks is about monkey's, by the way.
I find myself watching less and less television. Only things like Bremner, Bird and Fortune, The Office (obviously not any more) and, ummmm, that's about it.
I hardly ever watch ITV. I even watch Channel 4's news, because it's better than the others.
People watch soap operas because they want to escape something. Most of the time its their own drab lives, but they're too embarrassed to admit it.
I watch so that I can forget about my coursework for half an hour. It is, actually, 1 of only two things I watch on BBC. The other is Life of Mammals. Next weeks is about monkey's, by the way.
I find myself watching less and less television. Only things like Bremner, Bird and Fortune, The Office (obviously not any more) and, ummmm, that's about it.
I hardly ever watch ITV. I even watch Channel 4's news, because it's better than the others.
People watch soap operas because they want to escape something. Most of the time its their own drab lives, but they're too embarrassed to admit it.
It's not that people don't have the "2" button, but more because the mutants can't spare the calorie it takes to switch channels.
I read an article about Soap Operas and how they can basically be used to teach what is, unfortunately, an audience of largely stupid people how to act and what to think on certain issues.
There was a soap opera that had a storyline about abortion. And the woman screaming "It was a real life, and you persuaded me to kill it, I hate you!"
"But we couldnt afford it"
"But it was a living person, I'm a murderer!"
"But...I didn't...."
"A MURDERER!"
There was no counterpoint offered to the pro-life screaming at all. And take a look at something like Eastenders.
Adultery, incest, murder, blackmail...this is entertainment? This is all pre-watershed yet deals with the most lascivious subject matters.
Why watch it? What is the point in watching a pretend set of lives being acted out, 4-5 nights a week, with situations that never occur?
I dont see the appeal in watching abject misery being inflicted on barely-sketched caricatures.
And I don't think I'm far wrong to condemn a majority of regular watchers as clueless apes. The actors talk about people calling them by their character names in the street, or if a villain, getting yelled at by passers-by.
It's not entertainment, it's something bright moving to keep the infant-adults happy till bedtime.
BBC2 and Channel 4 have interesting programmes and excellent comedy. But what are the highest viewing figures? About a quarter (if that) of BBC1 and ITV. They're still considered "snobby" channels. And when a show becomes a hit on 2, it's moved across to BBC1 so more people can watch it.
WHY? Do certain people not have the button marked "2" on their remote? Or is it that most prime-time programmes on BBC1 and ITV are mindless, Mcprogrammes about celebrity chefs, quiz shows and Blind Date. A show where adults go on television and compete for a date.
*shakes head*
There was a soap opera that had a storyline about abortion. And the woman screaming "It was a real life, and you persuaded me to kill it, I hate you!"
"But we couldnt afford it"
"But it was a living person, I'm a murderer!"
"But...I didn't...."
"A MURDERER!"
There was no counterpoint offered to the pro-life screaming at all. And take a look at something like Eastenders.
Adultery, incest, murder, blackmail...this is entertainment? This is all pre-watershed yet deals with the most lascivious subject matters.
Why watch it? What is the point in watching a pretend set of lives being acted out, 4-5 nights a week, with situations that never occur?
I dont see the appeal in watching abject misery being inflicted on barely-sketched caricatures.
And I don't think I'm far wrong to condemn a majority of regular watchers as clueless apes. The actors talk about people calling them by their character names in the street, or if a villain, getting yelled at by passers-by.
It's not entertainment, it's something bright moving to keep the infant-adults happy till bedtime.
BBC2 and Channel 4 have interesting programmes and excellent comedy. But what are the highest viewing figures? About a quarter (if that) of BBC1 and ITV. They're still considered "snobby" channels. And when a show becomes a hit on 2, it's moved across to BBC1 so more people can watch it.
WHY? Do certain people not have the button marked "2" on their remote? Or is it that most prime-time programmes on BBC1 and ITV are mindless, Mcprogrammes about celebrity chefs, quiz shows and Blind Date. A show where adults go on television and compete for a date.
*shakes head*
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