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There is more evidence to prove the exsistence of Jesus Christ than there is evidence of Julius Ceaser...
Boy, is this an interesting thread! (i really mean that, no ;-) in sight)
There are many arguements for and against the events of the Bible really taking place. The last programme on part of the subject (Moses) was really interesting.
History, any kind, whether it be from the Bible or otherwise, is written by the victors and each author has their own historical slant. To understand the Bible (either as a work of fiction or fact) you have to go back to the time and understand who wrote it, for what purpose and under what conditions.
Yes, there are a lot of social elements that find their way into both books, the Apocrypha texts are probably the least watered down and most 'accurate' of any and worth reading to fill in the gaps.
There are many arguements for and against the events of the Bible really taking place. The last programme on part of the subject (Moses) was really interesting.
History, any kind, whether it be from the Bible or otherwise, is written by the victors and each author has their own historical slant. To understand the Bible (either as a work of fiction or fact) you have to go back to the time and understand who wrote it, for what purpose and under what conditions.
Yes, there are a lot of social elements that find their way into both books, the Apocrypha texts are probably the least watered down and most 'accurate' of any and worth reading to fill in the gaps.
Insane Bartender wrote:
> I love biblical "evidence".
>
> God exists. But is he the kind man of the New testament, or the
> ravaging, anger prone destroyer of the old? Is he one God, or many?
Old testament - early human - equivilant of a baby.
Is taught by raw reward and punishment.
Shouted at when something is done wrong, smiled upon/given a cookie when something is done right.
New testament - human has grown - equivilant of child.
Still needs rules, to be told what's right or wrong, but doesn't need the raw reward/punishment system as much. They have to learn to do something because it's right, not because they'll get punished.
Modern day - after struggling through a confused adolescence (Spannish Inquisition torture and Catholics and Prodestants killing each other over how to worship the Lord wasn't exactly what he had in mind for his Kingdom on Earth...), human has become an adult, and should know what's right and wrong rather than try to bend and quote the simplistic rules they were taught as kids (that's why it's so stupid, sometimes, when people try to quote the bible rather than understand it!).
God's nurtured us through our childhood and we've now grown independant.
Ofcourse, we can still call on him if we need help, but I'd like to think that we can atleast TRY to look after ourselves nowdays...
> I love biblical "evidence".
>
> God exists. But is he the kind man of the New testament, or the
> ravaging, anger prone destroyer of the old? Is he one God, or many?
Old testament - early human - equivilant of a baby.
Is taught by raw reward and punishment.
Shouted at when something is done wrong, smiled upon/given a cookie when something is done right.
New testament - human has grown - equivilant of child.
Still needs rules, to be told what's right or wrong, but doesn't need the raw reward/punishment system as much. They have to learn to do something because it's right, not because they'll get punished.
Modern day - after struggling through a confused adolescence (Spannish Inquisition torture and Catholics and Prodestants killing each other over how to worship the Lord wasn't exactly what he had in mind for his Kingdom on Earth...), human has become an adult, and should know what's right and wrong rather than try to bend and quote the simplistic rules they were taught as kids (that's why it's so stupid, sometimes, when people try to quote the bible rather than understand it!).
God's nurtured us through our childhood and we've now grown independant.
Ofcourse, we can still call on him if we need help, but I'd like to think that we can atleast TRY to look after ourselves nowdays...
Somebody better tell that to the Irish.
The bible is kinda like the literary equivalent of cannabis - a way to make yourself feel your own existence is worthwhile. It's a feel-good thing - Christians act like the righteous Christian should, and they subsequently feel good about themselves.
And good for them.
And good for them.
Neo Elimin@tor 2015 wrote:
> Jesus christ isn't real
Yes he was, and is.
and the entire bible was made up as a
> entertaining adults book
No it wasn't you imbecile. Even if you have no faith in God you must understand that it is a great historical reference ?
, but something went wrong, they took it
> seriously.
Pfffttt....
> Jesus christ isn't real
Yes he was, and is.
and the entire bible was made up as a
> entertaining adults book
No it wasn't you imbecile. Even if you have no faith in God you must understand that it is a great historical reference ?
, but something went wrong, they took it
> seriously.
Pfffttt....
The Bible, The Apocrypha and countless other historical books, documents, scrolls etc.
John.J wrote:
>Jesus did exist but he might not have been our saviour and there is
> evidence that he did exist.
Like what exactly?
>Jesus did exist but he might not have been our saviour and there is
> evidence that he did exist.
Like what exactly?
Strafex wrote:
> People just don't get what the bible is all about.
>
> Evolution seems obvious to us in this day and age, but back when God
> gave stories for the bible, it would've been a concept a bit difficult
> for the simple farmers to grasp and it would have confused them
> unnecesarily.
> God COULD have spent ages teaching it to them, or he could just give
> them the important bits of how to behave.
>
> It's like...
>
> ok, do parents tell their children the full details of how they were
> born?
> No. They simplify it down to the bare essentials - baby comes out of
> mummy - and leave the rest until they are older and ready.
>
> That's why it's so stupid when some people quote the bible to prove a
> point. The rules were written to be followed by simple people in a
> simple world.
>
> In todays complex world, using these set rules is impractical and
> silly.
> That's why people should try to understand WHY God lay down these
> rules, so we can work out how he'd want us to live in the modern
> world.
>
>
>
> The fact that the Spannish Inquisition went around burning people
> because they didn't believe in God pretty much shows that they didn't
> quite "get it"...
Is IB the only one who read this?
> People just don't get what the bible is all about.
>
> Evolution seems obvious to us in this day and age, but back when God
> gave stories for the bible, it would've been a concept a bit difficult
> for the simple farmers to grasp and it would have confused them
> unnecesarily.
> God COULD have spent ages teaching it to them, or he could just give
> them the important bits of how to behave.
>
> It's like...
>
> ok, do parents tell their children the full details of how they were
> born?
> No. They simplify it down to the bare essentials - baby comes out of
> mummy - and leave the rest until they are older and ready.
>
> That's why it's so stupid when some people quote the bible to prove a
> point. The rules were written to be followed by simple people in a
> simple world.
>
> In todays complex world, using these set rules is impractical and
> silly.
> That's why people should try to understand WHY God lay down these
> rules, so we can work out how he'd want us to live in the modern
> world.
>
>
>
> The fact that the Spannish Inquisition went around burning people
> because they didn't believe in God pretty much shows that they didn't
> quite "get it"...
Is IB the only one who read this?
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