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Q. Why are the Fire Brigade Union Asking For a new pay deal ?
A. Fire fighters and Emergency Fire control operators have their pay set by a formula that is 25 years old and doesn't give a fair wage for the job they do.
Q. Do Fire fighters and Emergency Fire control operators get extra pay for working Nights and Weekends ?
A. No Fire fighters and Emergency Fire control operators get no shift/weekend/night allowance unlike most people who work a shift system.
Q. Fire fighters and Emergency Fire control operators do get a lot of time off don't they?
A. Fire fighters and Emergency Fire control operators work a 42 hour week not the standard 38 hours worked in industry.
Q. So how much do Fire fighters and Emergency Fire control operators earn ?
A. A fully qualified Fire Fighter after four years training earns £21,531 with the starting pay at under £17,000. An Emergency Fire control operator earns £19,827 with the minimum starting pay at £14,163.
Q. Isn't £21,531 a fair wage ?
A. Fire Fighters have 11% of their wages deducted for their pension scheme for when they retire at a maximum of 55 or 60 for officers. They also work more hours per week than normal so their hourly pay is in fact lower and so is their take home pay.
Q. Wouldn't an extra payment help Fire fighters and Emergency Fire control staff who can't afford to live in some areas of the country ?
A. Fire fighters and Emergency Fire control staff do the same job protecting the public across the country and the risks they face are the same from Cornwall to Scotland. Fire fighters and Emergency Fire control staff should all be paid a fair rate for the job they do and that job is the same no matter where they serve.
Q Don't some Fire fighters and Emergency Fire control staff work on their three days off ?
A. Some Fire fighters and Emergency Fire control staff do have to work on some of their rest days to earn enough to live where they are sent to work. A fair rate of pay would mean they didn't have to work on their rest days to make ends meet.
Q. Do Fire service employers think that Fire fighters and Emergency Fire control staff are underpaid ?
A. Fire service employers have agreed to a joint approach to the government to ensure Fire fighters and Emergency Fire control staff are fairly paid for the job they do.
Q. Has the Fire fighters job changed that much since their last pay formula claim in 1977 ?
A. Fire fighters today face all sorts of incidents from terrorist acts to chemical spills, from car and rail crashes to property fires. Fire fighters also undertake safety inspections, do community education programmes for children and adults, and still complete their training courses and exams as well as fitness training and lectures on a daily basis. The training of a fire fighter continues throughout their 30 year career.
Q. What is a fair rate of pay for a Fire fighter ?
A. A rate of pay that recognises that Fire fighters have to train for four years to qualify and which reflects a fair wage for people who put their lives on the line and their skills to the test every time they arrive at your local station for another shift.
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Now, please do me 1 favour.
Before you start posting your views here and then wander off for a coffee?
Any questions or statements of blinding political truth, email them here
[email protected]
That's the Fireman's Union email address.
Email them your comments and post the replies instead of arguing about it on a forum populated by (mostly) kids that dont care about it.
I honestly want to see how many people here that are lambasting the Fire Service have the courage to address the issue directly.
A. Fire fighters and Emergency Fire control operators have their pay set by a formula that is 25 years old and doesn't give a fair wage for the job they do.
Q. Do Fire fighters and Emergency Fire control operators get extra pay for working Nights and Weekends ?
A. No Fire fighters and Emergency Fire control operators get no shift/weekend/night allowance unlike most people who work a shift system.
Q. Fire fighters and Emergency Fire control operators do get a lot of time off don't they?
A. Fire fighters and Emergency Fire control operators work a 42 hour week not the standard 38 hours worked in industry.
Q. So how much do Fire fighters and Emergency Fire control operators earn ?
A. A fully qualified Fire Fighter after four years training earns £21,531 with the starting pay at under £17,000. An Emergency Fire control operator earns £19,827 with the minimum starting pay at £14,163.
Q. Isn't £21,531 a fair wage ?
A. Fire Fighters have 11% of their wages deducted for their pension scheme for when they retire at a maximum of 55 or 60 for officers. They also work more hours per week than normal so their hourly pay is in fact lower and so is their take home pay.
Q. Wouldn't an extra payment help Fire fighters and Emergency Fire control staff who can't afford to live in some areas of the country ?
A. Fire fighters and Emergency Fire control staff do the same job protecting the public across the country and the risks they face are the same from Cornwall to Scotland. Fire fighters and Emergency Fire control staff should all be paid a fair rate for the job they do and that job is the same no matter where they serve.
Q Don't some Fire fighters and Emergency Fire control staff work on their three days off ?
A. Some Fire fighters and Emergency Fire control staff do have to work on some of their rest days to earn enough to live where they are sent to work. A fair rate of pay would mean they didn't have to work on their rest days to make ends meet.
Q. Do Fire service employers think that Fire fighters and Emergency Fire control staff are underpaid ?
A. Fire service employers have agreed to a joint approach to the government to ensure Fire fighters and Emergency Fire control staff are fairly paid for the job they do.
Q. Has the Fire fighters job changed that much since their last pay formula claim in 1977 ?
A. Fire fighters today face all sorts of incidents from terrorist acts to chemical spills, from car and rail crashes to property fires. Fire fighters also undertake safety inspections, do community education programmes for children and adults, and still complete their training courses and exams as well as fitness training and lectures on a daily basis. The training of a fire fighter continues throughout their 30 year career.
Q. What is a fair rate of pay for a Fire fighter ?
A. A rate of pay that recognises that Fire fighters have to train for four years to qualify and which reflects a fair wage for people who put their lives on the line and their skills to the test every time they arrive at your local station for another shift.
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Now, please do me 1 favour.
Before you start posting your views here and then wander off for a coffee?
Any questions or statements of blinding political truth, email them here
[email protected]
That's the Fireman's Union email address.
Email them your comments and post the replies instead of arguing about it on a forum populated by (mostly) kids that dont care about it.
I honestly want to see how many people here that are lambasting the Fire Service have the courage to address the issue directly.
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I'm called Gareth too. Also from Wales. Point proven.
Yes. Wales.
*hangs head in shame*
*hangs head in shame*
Insane Bartender wrote:
> Where I come from, there are more Gareth's than sheep.
>
> Where I come from, there are many, many sheep.
Wales?
> Where I come from, there are more Gareth's than sheep.
>
> Where I come from, there are many, many sheep.
Wales?
But MY e-mail was sent with High importance...
Insane Bartender wrote:
> no reply as yet. I'm guessing it's either not been read, it's been
> ignored, or someone read the first few lines and held down shift
> before pressing delete.
Or that they recieve hundreds of emails an hour from people all over the country and they reply when they can? It's only been an hour.
Or they laugh at the idea of people arguing over the internet about it and treat it with the respect we deserve?
> no reply as yet. I'm guessing it's either not been read, it's been
> ignored, or someone read the first few lines and held down shift
> before pressing delete.
Or that they recieve hundreds of emails an hour from people all over the country and they reply when they can? It's only been an hour.
Or they laugh at the idea of people arguing over the internet about it and treat it with the respect we deserve?
Where I come from, there are more Gareth's than sheep.
Where I come from, there are many, many sheep.
Where I come from, there are many, many sheep.
A nicely thought out Email there IB, i didnt know your name was Gareth, thats also my cousins name. A startling revelation i know.
no reply as yet. I'm guessing it's either not been read, it's been ignored, or someone read the first few lines and held down shift before pressing delete.
Possibly. I'll just keep my eye on the news and wait and see if a move to Hull is on the cards.
Probably, but it's doing a bit more than arguing with the same 3 faces on here.
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