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Sun 20/10/02 at 22:08
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Has anyone seen the new video for You Know You're Right? I think it's pretty cool how they mixed up the clips - sorta like the Lithium video, but faster. Also, where did the footage of Kurt at the beginning come from (where he has red hair), it looks like he was in a white room and this part was in very high quality. Certainly proves there's a lot more home videos of Nirvana/Kurt floating around, waiting to be bootlegged.

Personally, I think the song's pretty good, but not as good as some of the other unreleased stuff. They did a good job with the video though.
Thu 31/10/02 at 19:07
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"Hmmm....."
Posts: 71
Flux wrote:
> Could you BE anymore ignorant or a spammer!?!?!?

I already apologized for why I "spammed" - I personally hate spammers and that's why I was horrified when I realised I muliple-posted. I don't like being labelled a spammer any more then the next guy and that is why I generally don't spam.

Also, wasn't this meant to be about the YKYR video? - not an excuse of a post for you to have a go at Blank. I think that you've blown up what was a 2-line post by him into a chance to get one up on him. And this in itself could be interpreted as spam.
Mon 28/10/02 at 18:08
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"twothousandandtits"
Posts: 11,024
Now you're trying to turn this around. Basically, you started having a go at me for saying something. I never said this something. You made it up. Maybe you like people doing this to you, but I don't. So please don't do it again.
Mon 28/10/02 at 10:10
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"The flux capacitor!"
Posts: 1,149
Vottanator wrote:
> Blank wrote:
> Flux wrote:
> Blank wrote:
> Flux wrote:
> Yes, I have heard of opinion, and I was giving mine. That's allowed,
> isn't it?
>
> Yes, but you're putting it into the context that it's a fact.
>
> Well if you can't distinguish fact from opinion that isn't my fault.
>
>
>
> But I disagree that people like Nirvana because *he* killed himself.
>
> Well they do. You can't deny it.....people do. They're stuff really
> isn't great when you listen to it.
>
>
>
> Errrrm....but that's an opinion. I can deny it. Their stuff isn't
> really that great when YOU listen to it. When I listen to Nelly I am
> tempted to go out to buy a gun and make an attempt on his life for
> polluting the musical world the way he does. Yet other people like it.
> I can't believe they do but they do. It's been said a thousand times
> before but it's true: IT'S ALL DOWN TO TASTE!

Thank you Vottanator! See my point yet Blank? He agrees.
Mon 28/10/02 at 10:08
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"The flux capacitor!"
Posts: 1,149
Blank wrote:
> Flux wrote:
> Blank wrote:
> Flux wrote:
> Yes, I have heard of opinion, and I was giving mine. That's allowed,
> isn't it?
>
> Yes, but you're putting it into the context that it's a fact.
>
> Well if you can't distinguish fact from opinion that isn't my fault.
>
> I can, but you're saying it in that type of context...
>
> But I disagree that people like Nirvana because *he* killed himself.
>
> Well they do. You can't deny it.....people do. They're stuff really
> isn't great when you listen to it.

SOME of them do, I will agree to that extent, but you can't say that everyone who likes Nirvana likes them because Kurt Cobain shot himself, because that isn't true.
>
> Ignorant ponce. Think before you type.
>
> Just a tad hypocritical.
>
> Not particularly. Anyway, I'm not going to argue, because if it was
> your opinion, it's better to put an IMHO or IMO before it...
>
> Woah. You called me an "ignorant ponce" after you had just
> had a go at me for saying something I never said. You completely made
> it up and slagged me off for saying it. When I didn't. Then you have
> the audacity to say that you weren't being hypocritical? I think you
> need to look it up in a dictionary.
>
No thanks, I'm quite capable. Look - here's what I'm saying. You can't say that everyone who likes Nirvana likes them because KC shot himself, because it just isn't true. It may be your opinion, but it's hardly a fact, is it? A tad ignorant, UNLESS it's your opinion, in which time you should state so...
>
> And I didn't ignore you, I didn't notice your reply.
>
> Well yes, I'm sure you didn't.

I didn't, whether you believe me or not.

This argument is stupid, it'll just keep dragging on. Let's just forget about it, unless you wish to continue in a slagging off match, which I do not. I didn't come here to make enemies.
Mon 28/10/02 at 09:46
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"Vote For Pedro"
Posts: 5,679
MeEkY wrote:

> Nirvana weren't punk rock - they were grunge rock

You obviously dont know too much. They were CALLED Grunge Rock by the media but THEY would always call themselves Punk Rock. Not in the sense of Blink 182 punk but original rock eg Sex Pistols.
Sat 26/10/02 at 23:33
Posts: 0
SHEEPY wrote:
> I think they're alright
>
> I like 'In Utero'
>
> You Know Your Right isn't their best and I'm sure it would never have
> been released if he hadn't killed himself. Just a way to make money,
> which is actually what Cobain hated... yet they do that etc blah blah

You also said that you think Nirvana & Kurt are very overrated

-You don't like Nirvana's music, so no wonder you dont like the new song. I like it, other people like it, its a good song. You just go around and listen to total crap like coldplay (As everyone can see for themselves in the "If you are listening to music at this moment.... forum)
Sat 26/10/02 at 23:22
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Flux wrote:
> Korg wrote:
> If they really liked Nirvana, they would be walking around for days
> without washing, in crusty old flannel shirts and old jeans with
> big,
> gaping holes in them, and trainers with torn up laces and the soles
> coming off! That's what punk rock stood for - not caring.
>
> Could you BE anymore ignorant or a spammer!?!?!?

Nirvana weren't punk rock - they were grunge rock
Sat 26/10/02 at 23:20
Posts: 0
You know why Nirvana were (and still are) loved? Because their songs; they were so simple, yet they played them to perfection. The music was also new, and just as many people now like them because people who were like 7 when Kurt Cobain died have discovered the greatness of Nirvana in the last few years: and that adds on to all the other original fans.

The music was simple, the lyrics were complicated: The result was some of the greatest songs ever written & some of the greatest riffs ever made
Sat 26/10/02 at 21:50
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"twothousandandtits"
Posts: 11,024
Vottanator wrote:
> Errrrm....but that's an opinion. I can deny it. Their stuff isn't
> really that great when YOU listen to it. When I listen to Nelly I am
> tempted to go out to buy a gun and make an attempt on his life for
> polluting the musical world the way he does. Yet other people like it.
> I can't believe they do but they do. It's been said a thousand times
> before but it's true: IT'S ALL DOWN TO TASTE!
>
> People loved Nirvana before Kurt killed himself. Because he killed
> himself, they are remembered more but it doesn't mean their music is
> poor.

The point I was trying to make is that the reason the band are still so popular is because he is no longer alive. If he had lived, and the badn had just faded away, they wouldn't be half as popular. Sure, I believe some people like them for the music, but you have to admit that a lot of people just do it for popularity or because they think of Kurt Cobain as some kind of martyr.

> And even if you don't like Nirvana, you have to lvoe the 'In Bloom'
> video. It's just so funny. In fact, Toby Maguire modelled himself on
> Kurt Cobain in that video. True.

I've seen two videos for that song, neither of which I found funny, maybe there's a third I haven't seen. And who's Toby Maguire?
Fri 25/10/02 at 21:52
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"Rong Xion Tong"
Posts: 5,237
Blank wrote:
> Flux wrote:
> Blank wrote:
> Flux wrote:
> Yes, I have heard of opinion, and I was giving mine. That's allowed,
> isn't it?
>
> Yes, but you're putting it into the context that it's a fact.
>
> Well if you can't distinguish fact from opinion that isn't my fault.
>
>
>
> But I disagree that people like Nirvana because *he* killed himself.
>
> Well they do. You can't deny it.....people do. They're stuff really
> isn't great when you listen to it.



Errrrm....but that's an opinion. I can deny it. Their stuff isn't really that great when YOU listen to it. When I listen to Nelly I am tempted to go out to buy a gun and make an attempt on his life for polluting the musical world the way he does. Yet other people like it. I can't believe they do but they do. It's been said a thousand times before but it's true: IT'S ALL DOWN TO TASTE!

People loved Nirvana before Kurt killed himself. Because he killed himself, they are remembered more but it doesn't mean their music is poor.

And even if you don't like Nirvana, you have to lvoe the 'In Bloom' video. It's just so funny. In fact, Toby Maguire modelled himself on Kurt Cobain in that video. True.

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