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Fri 04/10/02 at 21:50
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!! PC the best console yet!!
because name a console that does all the games like ECT, grand theft auto 1,2,3,london , resident evil 1,2,3 what do u think??? cos i think PC the best . because i think the Xbox wont do this nor will gamecube or will it?? its done the resident evil.1 better will it do number 2 like it? (i hope u can understand this)
Wed 09/10/02 at 15:03
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"Eric The Half A Bee"
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FantasyMeister wrote:
> The simple fact is, to get the most out of today's top PC games, you
> need to spend at least £700 on a decent PC. Even then it's
> doubtful if you'd get the best settings on UT2003, which is possibly
> the highest specced game out there at the moment.


Covering the same point again.. I run the latest games, at a 1024x768 res on my 1998 PC?
Wed 09/10/02 at 10:49
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This is why I don't want to play games on a pc.
MS has released an upgrade to Windows XP. Service pack1 is now available, but XP has not been around very long and they are on the upgrade path already. Some may say it's to correct problems. But if this is the case, why didn't MS get it right in the first place.
Tue 08/10/02 at 16:21
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A 1996 PC - that's like a 20 year old car. A bet you had to upgrade the motherboard, then install a newer CPU, add USB cards, replace audio + video cards, put in a new hard disc, add lots more memory, buy a modem or/and ethernet card, then install lots of software many times over. R U running Windows XP yet? Can it run DOOM 3 when it arrives? The only thing original on this pc must be the plastic case.
Tue 08/10/02 at 15:46
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FantasyMeister wrote:
> The simple fact is, to get the most out of today's top PC games, you
> need to spend at least £700 on a decent PC. Even then it's
> doubtful if you'd get the best settings on UT2003, which is possibly
> the highest specced game out there at the moment.

that isnt necassarily (spelt wrong) true, ive had the same pc since 1996 but ive upgraded it many time in total ive spent about 200 quid and its as fast as pentium 4, if not better
Tue 08/10/02 at 15:03
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The simple fact is, to get the most out of today's top PC games, you need to spend at least £700 on a decent PC. Even then it's doubtful if you'd get the best settings on UT2003, which is possibly the highest specced game out there at the moment.

On top of that, you'll have to continue to upgrade every 24 months with a new sound/gfx card, because even the latest Geforce 4 gfx cards will be nearly obsolete by then.

It's true that these games running on these kinds of systems are going to kick all console games into touch in terms of graphical power, but for some people (like me), installing and configuring a PC game to get it running 'just right' is just too much trouble, plus there's the added problem of having to learn 2398320348390432 hot keys and keyboard commands for each game.

The one advantage that consoles have always had is their ability to just pop in a disc and play, knowing that you're getting the most out of your game from the word go. (N64 Expansion Paks being an exception to the rule). You also know that a console is going to last you a good 5-7 years from the day you bought it, you also know that if you stick to a particular brand of console from generation to generation that you are going to continue to get updates of games that you enjoy playing.

So I'd say PC's do provide the best in gaming, as long as you're prepared to pay through the nose for the privilege of being able to play the latest titles at their optimum settings.

Consoles do the same job, but sacrifice a small amount (we ARE talking small amount these days) of graphical power. But then the potential savings are immense.
Tue 08/10/02 at 14:50
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"Eric The Half A Bee"
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Dave RJR wrote:
> If the PC is so great for games, why did all those people buy PS2,
> GameCube, and XBox? Perhaps they were going to buy them to use as door
> stops and keep using their PC’s to play games. The fact that so many
> people have bought a next gen console means that they must be using
> them. They may use their PC for other stuff (work?), and possibly a
> couple of good games which are PC only. But in the main, it’s consoles
> for games all the way.

No body is saying that the GC, X-Box, PS2, etc.. arn't fantastic machines... Nobody is saying that they arnt spectacularly fun to play games on... Consoles are made for playing games, and are damn good at it too... I don't think anyone was attacking consoles specifically... so its okay, no need to hyperventalate... Like I say, if you enjoy your console, it should'nt really bother you that much what anyone else thinks, vive la difference! ;)
Tue 08/10/02 at 14:45
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Dave RJR wrote:
> Thing is, if you are going to play the latest PC games, do you save
> money now and by a lower spec PC but risk needing lots of upgrades
> sooner, or spend more money now on a better spec PC and don't worry
> about upgrades for say 2 years. Don't think I would go for anything
> less than a 2.0Ghz P4 with 512Mb Ram for a machine that I wanted to
> play all the latest games on right now. You can get away with less -
> but it will be out of date sooner rather than later.

Not at all... I picked up my machine in 1998, I happily play modern games (e.g. GTA3, Morrowwind, Spiderman) at a minimum res of 1024x768 and minimum settings of high (though I generally try for giher settings)

I have upgraded my PC memory, twice, but since it was £13 for 128MB both times (cheaper than memory cards?) I don't see it as a problem...

I have a machine I bought several years before the PS2 was launched, that is capible of playing titles to a superior specification to the PS2 today?

> PC games do cost less - but i don't believe this is enough to make up
> for the extra cost of the hardware.

At £15-20 price difference per title, you don't have to be a serious games player to benifit from the price difference?
Tue 08/10/02 at 14:37
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If the PC is so great for games, why did all those people buy PS2, GameCube, and XBox? Perhaps they were going to buy them to use as door stops and keep using their PC’s to play games. The fact that so many people have bought a next gen console means that they must be using them. They may use their PC for other stuff (work?), and possibly a couple of good games which are PC only. But in the main, it’s consoles for games all the way.
Tue 08/10/02 at 13:27
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Thing is, if you are going to play the latest PC games, do you save money now and by a lower spec PC but risk needing lots of upgrades sooner, or spend more money now on a better spec PC and don't worry about upgrades for say 2 years. Don't think I would go for anything less than a 2.0Ghz P4 with 512Mb Ram for a machine that I wanted to play all the latest games on right now. You can get away with less - but it will be out of date sooner rather than later.

PC games do cost less - but i don't believe this is enough to make up for the extra cost of the hardware.
Tue 08/10/02 at 13:15
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"Eric The Half A Bee"
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Semajal wrote:
> a- PC gaming is expensive, you need a PC, and a good one would set you
> back at least £1000.

a 2.X gig PCs are around 599?

> c- i totally disagree. There are so many quality games on the gamecube
> that i have run out of money buying them. Ps2 has GTA3 and i hope GTa4
> will be multi format.

The PC also has GTA3 (and GTA4)... I don't think anyone was saying that the GC doesnt have good titles (except possibly PS2 and X-Box owners)... at the end of the day, if your happy with your system, what does it matter what other people think?

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