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I am not laughing at Rare, Rare were my third favourite company and my first favourite company kicked 'em out to you guys. Oh no I'm laughing at the fact that Microsoft expect Rare to release 5 games in 2 years....
Trust me it won't happen.
Trust me it won't happen.
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Savatt78 wrote:
> Maverick42 wrote:
> Nintendo are the richest company in gaming, they just don't spend as
> much as Microsoft like to, and charge reasonable prices.
>
> I wouldn't say Nintendo are angels when it comes to pricing. Of
> course the GC console is cheaper - but only because it has to be. If
> not for the X-Box price drop, you lot would have been paying
> £170 on release day.
Nintendo's finacial advisors expected Microsoft to drop their price in panic which is why Nintendo were so swift. Ever wonder how those boards declaring the price drop appeared so quickly?
> They're games are around the same price as X-Box titles and extra
> money is made back through things like the memory card which is an
> essential purchase. What differs with the GC's memory card though is
> that its has very little space, so its not long before you end up
> needing another one.
Memory Card 251 is huge, the Memory card 59 is tiny but i can save all ten of my games on the 251 with still half the memory left.
> I mean look back at the N64 - £250 on release, with a memory
> card that saved next to sod all and games entering the regions of
> £60, even £70 ! Bloody criminal.
True but hey it was cartridge based.
> The GC has come out with cheaper prices because really, its had to in
> order to compete. I'm not saying Microsoft are wonderful either, in
> my opinion all the companys charge a shed load. But Nintendo
> certainly don't show anymore love for the consumer than the
> competition.
Cheapest Software and Cheapest console on the market.
> Afterall, they've had quite the reputation for not giving a crap about
> Europe in the past.
Just not now as if you bothered to look at the Japanese state of affairs Nintendo's new effort in the west has changed... dramatically.
> Maverick42 wrote:
> Nintendo are the richest company in gaming, they just don't spend as
> much as Microsoft like to, and charge reasonable prices.
>
> I wouldn't say Nintendo are angels when it comes to pricing. Of
> course the GC console is cheaper - but only because it has to be. If
> not for the X-Box price drop, you lot would have been paying
> £170 on release day.
Nintendo's finacial advisors expected Microsoft to drop their price in panic which is why Nintendo were so swift. Ever wonder how those boards declaring the price drop appeared so quickly?
> They're games are around the same price as X-Box titles and extra
> money is made back through things like the memory card which is an
> essential purchase. What differs with the GC's memory card though is
> that its has very little space, so its not long before you end up
> needing another one.
Memory Card 251 is huge, the Memory card 59 is tiny but i can save all ten of my games on the 251 with still half the memory left.
> I mean look back at the N64 - £250 on release, with a memory
> card that saved next to sod all and games entering the regions of
> £60, even £70 ! Bloody criminal.
True but hey it was cartridge based.
> The GC has come out with cheaper prices because really, its had to in
> order to compete. I'm not saying Microsoft are wonderful either, in
> my opinion all the companys charge a shed load. But Nintendo
> certainly don't show anymore love for the consumer than the
> competition.
Cheapest Software and Cheapest console on the market.
> Afterall, they've had quite the reputation for not giving a crap about
> Europe in the past.
Just not now as if you bothered to look at the Japanese state of affairs Nintendo's new effort in the west has changed... dramatically.
Silent85 wrote:
> Whitestripes wrote:
> One other thing.
>
> 4 controller ports.
>
> Okay so the PSOne has a multi-tap, but not many games at all used
> it.
> In fact when the PSOne was first released you actually had to have
> two
> consoles and link them together to play 2 player Wipeout!
>
> With the N64 Nintendo unleashed multi-player gaming on the world,
> and
> there still the leaders of it today. 4 player scplit screen play
> is,
> in most peoples opinions (mine included) a lot more fun than online
> gaming.
>
>*********
>
> Yea and because of xbox's sale reward thing I have 3 YEY!!!!
3 N64s?
> Whitestripes wrote:
> One other thing.
>
> 4 controller ports.
>
> Okay so the PSOne has a multi-tap, but not many games at all used
> it.
> In fact when the PSOne was first released you actually had to have
> two
> consoles and link them together to play 2 player Wipeout!
>
> With the N64 Nintendo unleashed multi-player gaming on the world,
> and
> there still the leaders of it today. 4 player scplit screen play
> is,
> in most peoples opinions (mine included) a lot more fun than online
> gaming.
>
>*********
>
> Yea and because of xbox's sale reward thing I have 3 YEY!!!!
3 N64s?
Savatt78 wrote:
> Maverick42 wrote:
> Nintendo are the richest company in gaming, they just don't spend as
> much as Microsoft like to, and charge reasonable prices.
>
> I wouldn't say Nintendo are angels when it comes to pricing. Of
> course the GC console is cheaper - but only because it has to be. If
> not for the X-Box price drop, you lot would have been paying
> £170 on release day.
>
> They're games are around the same price as X-Box titles and extra
> money is made back through things like the memory card which is an
> essential purchase. What differs with the GC's memory card though is
> that its has very little space, so its not long before you end up
> needing another one.
>
> I mean look back at the N64 - £250 on release, with a memory
> card that saved next to sod all and games entering the regions of
> £60, even £70 ! Bloody criminal.
>
> The GC has come out with cheaper prices because really, its had to in
> order to compete. I'm not saying Microsoft are wonderful either, in
> my opinion all the companys charge a shed load. But Nintendo
> certainly don't show anymore love for the consumer than the
> competition.
> Afterall, they've had quite the reputation for not giving a crap about
> Europe in the past.
And lets be honest they still dont give a crap no tv adverts no more and ADVERTS ON A BUS!!!!
:p
> Maverick42 wrote:
> Nintendo are the richest company in gaming, they just don't spend as
> much as Microsoft like to, and charge reasonable prices.
>
> I wouldn't say Nintendo are angels when it comes to pricing. Of
> course the GC console is cheaper - but only because it has to be. If
> not for the X-Box price drop, you lot would have been paying
> £170 on release day.
>
> They're games are around the same price as X-Box titles and extra
> money is made back through things like the memory card which is an
> essential purchase. What differs with the GC's memory card though is
> that its has very little space, so its not long before you end up
> needing another one.
>
> I mean look back at the N64 - £250 on release, with a memory
> card that saved next to sod all and games entering the regions of
> £60, even £70 ! Bloody criminal.
>
> The GC has come out with cheaper prices because really, its had to in
> order to compete. I'm not saying Microsoft are wonderful either, in
> my opinion all the companys charge a shed load. But Nintendo
> certainly don't show anymore love for the consumer than the
> competition.
> Afterall, they've had quite the reputation for not giving a crap about
> Europe in the past.
And lets be honest they still dont give a crap no tv adverts no more and ADVERTS ON A BUS!!!!
:p
I have noticed for the past 5 years that PC games have ALSO increased their prices, back quite a while ago the new games were £30, now they are £35-£40 for a new game. That increased had probably started as soon as MS decided to make the Xbox.
See they did need to increase their prices on something as well.
See they did need to increase their prices on something as well.
Maverick42 wrote:
> Nintendo are the richest company in gaming, they just don't spend as
> much as Microsoft like to, and charge reasonable prices.
I wouldn't say Nintendo are angels when it comes to pricing. Of course the GC console is cheaper - but only because it has to be. If not for the X-Box price drop, you lot would have been paying £170 on release day.
They're games are around the same price as X-Box titles and extra money is made back through things like the memory card which is an essential purchase. What differs with the GC's memory card though is that its has very little space, so its not long before you end up needing another one.
I mean look back at the N64 - £250 on release, with a memory card that saved next to sod all and games entering the regions of £60, even £70 ! Bloody criminal.
The GC has come out with cheaper prices because really, its had to in order to compete. I'm not saying Microsoft are wonderful either, in my opinion all the companys charge a shed load. But Nintendo certainly don't show anymore love for the consumer than the competition.
Afterall, they've had quite the reputation for not giving a crap about Europe in the past.
> Nintendo are the richest company in gaming, they just don't spend as
> much as Microsoft like to, and charge reasonable prices.
I wouldn't say Nintendo are angels when it comes to pricing. Of course the GC console is cheaper - but only because it has to be. If not for the X-Box price drop, you lot would have been paying £170 on release day.
They're games are around the same price as X-Box titles and extra money is made back through things like the memory card which is an essential purchase. What differs with the GC's memory card though is that its has very little space, so its not long before you end up needing another one.
I mean look back at the N64 - £250 on release, with a memory card that saved next to sod all and games entering the regions of £60, even £70 ! Bloody criminal.
The GC has come out with cheaper prices because really, its had to in order to compete. I'm not saying Microsoft are wonderful either, in my opinion all the companys charge a shed load. But Nintendo certainly don't show anymore love for the consumer than the competition.
Afterall, they've had quite the reputation for not giving a crap about Europe in the past.
Whitestripes wrote:
> One other thing.
>
> 4 controller ports.
>
> Okay so the PSOne has a multi-tap, but not many games at all used it.
> In fact when the PSOne was first released you actually had to have two
> consoles and link them together to play 2 player Wipeout!
>
> With the N64 Nintendo unleashed multi-player gaming on the world, and
> there still the leaders of it today. 4 player scplit screen play is,
> in most peoples opinions (mine included) a lot more fun than online
> gaming.
Yea and because of xbox's sale reward thing I have 3 YEY!!!!
> One other thing.
>
> 4 controller ports.
>
> Okay so the PSOne has a multi-tap, but not many games at all used it.
> In fact when the PSOne was first released you actually had to have two
> consoles and link them together to play 2 player Wipeout!
>
> With the N64 Nintendo unleashed multi-player gaming on the world, and
> there still the leaders of it today. 4 player scplit screen play is,
> in most peoples opinions (mine included) a lot more fun than online
> gaming.
Yea and because of xbox's sale reward thing I have 3 YEY!!!!
Savatt78 wrote:
> Nintendo wanted to ditch Rare then thats their loss - don't see how
> Ninty's can stamp their feet and hate Rare when its Nintendo they
> should be having a go at for it.
I don't think you've got it quite right there, Savatt. Nintendo refused to buy out Rare because it didn't seem profitable when they looked at how Rare's sales accounted for their income. They didn't tell Rare to leave, or 'ditch' them, they just didn't want to splash a load of money around unnecessarily.
> If news came through that Nintendo have just bought Sega or Capcom,
> the Ninties would be jumping for joy and praising it as a superb move.
> What you lot don't like is that Microsoft have the bigger wallet and
> have successfully used it.
That's just the thing. Though I haven't said anything against Microsoft about the Rare buyout (hey, it's just business for christ's sake) I can see why some people may get annoyed:
Microsoft, richest company in the world decide to go into gaming. They have no experience at all, and though they make a suitable console, they don't know the first thing about making games. They get their wallet out and start pumping cash into the X-Box and developers, only using their previous sucess as a safety net instead of succeeding. People just may be annoyed that without the still overpriced Windows software, Microsoft would have fallen out of the gaming world long ago.
> Its a sad case of jealousy basically because Ninties wish Nintendo
> could have the bank account that Microsoft has access to.
Nintendo are the richest company in gaming, they just don't spend as much as Microsoft like to, and charge reasonable prices.
> The reaction over Rare from Ninties alone shows how good a move it
> was.
That will be confirmed when Kameo is released.
> Nintendo wanted to ditch Rare then thats their loss - don't see how
> Ninty's can stamp their feet and hate Rare when its Nintendo they
> should be having a go at for it.
I don't think you've got it quite right there, Savatt. Nintendo refused to buy out Rare because it didn't seem profitable when they looked at how Rare's sales accounted for their income. They didn't tell Rare to leave, or 'ditch' them, they just didn't want to splash a load of money around unnecessarily.
> If news came through that Nintendo have just bought Sega or Capcom,
> the Ninties would be jumping for joy and praising it as a superb move.
> What you lot don't like is that Microsoft have the bigger wallet and
> have successfully used it.
That's just the thing. Though I haven't said anything against Microsoft about the Rare buyout (hey, it's just business for christ's sake) I can see why some people may get annoyed:
Microsoft, richest company in the world decide to go into gaming. They have no experience at all, and though they make a suitable console, they don't know the first thing about making games. They get their wallet out and start pumping cash into the X-Box and developers, only using their previous sucess as a safety net instead of succeeding. People just may be annoyed that without the still overpriced Windows software, Microsoft would have fallen out of the gaming world long ago.
> Its a sad case of jealousy basically because Ninties wish Nintendo
> could have the bank account that Microsoft has access to.
Nintendo are the richest company in gaming, they just don't spend as much as Microsoft like to, and charge reasonable prices.
> The reaction over Rare from Ninties alone shows how good a move it
> was.
That will be confirmed when Kameo is released.
One other thing.
4 controller ports.
Okay so the PSOne has a multi-tap, but not many games at all used it. In fact when the PSOne was first released you actually had to have two consoles and link them together to play 2 player Wipeout!
With the N64 Nintendo unleashed multi-player gaming on the world, and there still the leaders of it today. 4 player scplit screen play is, in most peoples opinions (mine included) a lot more fun than online gaming.
4 controller ports.
Okay so the PSOne has a multi-tap, but not many games at all used it. In fact when the PSOne was first released you actually had to have two consoles and link them together to play 2 player Wipeout!
With the N64 Nintendo unleashed multi-player gaming on the world, and there still the leaders of it today. 4 player scplit screen play is, in most peoples opinions (mine included) a lot more fun than online gaming.
After the Rare buyout some nintys have taken a really bad attitude towards Microsoft and Rare.
Microsoft were just doing buisness, I congratulate the move.
Microsoft were just doing buisness, I congratulate the move.
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