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America have an annoying President, and a very big army.
England have an annoying Prime Minister and a very big army.
Iraq have some very dangerous weapons.
They seem even enough for this to escalate to much more.
If it's a war, I have 14 serious illnesses, I'm allergic to Clothing and I'm a very tall 4-year old.
England have an annoying Prime Minister and a very big army.
Iraq have some very dangerous weapons.
They seem even enough for this to escalate to much more.
If it's a war, I have 14 serious illnesses, I'm allergic to Clothing and I'm a very tall 4-year old.
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If the bombs "start dropping" he won't have a chance to strike back, which is why we need to go to war. You say he'll strike back yes ? Then you obviously think he'll use his weapons against us. Which is the whole point of a pre emptive strike !!
~~Belldandy~~
~~Belldandy~~
About Osama, the possibility of him being dead is the same as him being alive, so no-one knows, but he hasn't been brought to justice.
"The war is against Saddam Hussein and not Iraq"- Seems familiar...
The war on terrorism (aimed at Bin Laden) killed many civilians of Afghanistan, and a war against Saddam Hussein will kill more (civilians).I do not think that Saddam has motives to attack, but if the bombs start dropping, I think that he will attack, that is why i think there is no point in having a war.
"The war is against Saddam Hussein and not Iraq"- Seems familiar...
The war on terrorism (aimed at Bin Laden) killed many civilians of Afghanistan, and a war against Saddam Hussein will kill more (civilians).I do not think that Saddam has motives to attack, but if the bombs start dropping, I think that he will attack, that is why i think there is no point in having a war.
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Lombardo wrote:
> Do you really think that bombing Iraq will solve the problem?
> Osama Bin Laden has not even been caught yet, but thousands of
> civilians have been killed. I'm not saying that Saddam Hussein is
> friendly, I'm saying that although the US has the right motives (to
> bring peace), their methods are dubious, and often kill many
> civilians.
Has anyone actually said we're going to just sit back and bomb ? Er no, nobody except the media.... There are several whole carrier groups in the sea right now, there are elements of the 82nd, 101st, USOCOM, Rangers, SAS, Paras, armoured brigades e.t.c all stationed around neghbouring countries and bases. That doesn't suggest an air war like Afghanistan.
Again, to reiterate for the nth time, the war isn't against IRaq, it's Saddam and his support mechanism.
Methods are dubious ? They haven't even attacked yet so thats unsubstantiated don't ya think ?
As for Osama, anyone prove he's alive right now ? Nope. Last tape intel has recovered dates to early November. It's quite possible tht Osama lies dead in the Tora Bora mountains right now.
~~Belldandy~~
> Do you really think that bombing Iraq will solve the problem?
> Osama Bin Laden has not even been caught yet, but thousands of
> civilians have been killed. I'm not saying that Saddam Hussein is
> friendly, I'm saying that although the US has the right motives (to
> bring peace), their methods are dubious, and often kill many
> civilians.
Has anyone actually said we're going to just sit back and bomb ? Er no, nobody except the media.... There are several whole carrier groups in the sea right now, there are elements of the 82nd, 101st, USOCOM, Rangers, SAS, Paras, armoured brigades e.t.c all stationed around neghbouring countries and bases. That doesn't suggest an air war like Afghanistan.
Again, to reiterate for the nth time, the war isn't against IRaq, it's Saddam and his support mechanism.
Methods are dubious ? They haven't even attacked yet so thats unsubstantiated don't ya think ?
As for Osama, anyone prove he's alive right now ? Nope. Last tape intel has recovered dates to early November. It's quite possible tht Osama lies dead in the Tora Bora mountains right now.
~~Belldandy~~
Do you really think that bombing Iraq will solve the problem?
Osama Bin Laden has not even been caught yet, but thousands of civilians have been killed. I'm not saying that Saddam Hussein is friendly, I'm saying that although the US has the right motives (to bring peace), their methods are dubious, and often kill many civilians.
Osama Bin Laden has not even been caught yet, but thousands of civilians have been killed. I'm not saying that Saddam Hussein is friendly, I'm saying that although the US has the right motives (to bring peace), their methods are dubious, and often kill many civilians.
It's about as close to an enemy as you'll get !
Lets see, Saddam has;
1) Publicly stated that Israel and the jewish race should be destroyed.
2) Tried to acquire nuclear material.
3) Developed other WMDS, and then "lost" them, like you lose that much anthrax....
4) Previously attacked his own people, Iran, Kuwait, Israel.
5) Failed to release 600 Gulf War prisoners, they have disappeared without trace.
6) Broken UN resolutions for 11 years.
7) Offered cash payments for the dead bodies of US and UK servicemen patrolling the No Fly zone.
8) Sheltered terrorists of various groups.
9) Paid money to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers.
10) Attempted to construct a "super gun" in secret.
11) Had political opponents murdered, women raped and murdered, children of his enemies tortured, and even members of his own family killed.
Er, just what does he have to do to become an enemy in your eyes, nuke someone ? Oh yeah, thats why we're going to attack, to stop him doing that in the future....
~~Belldandy~~
Lets see, Saddam has;
1) Publicly stated that Israel and the jewish race should be destroyed.
2) Tried to acquire nuclear material.
3) Developed other WMDS, and then "lost" them, like you lose that much anthrax....
4) Previously attacked his own people, Iran, Kuwait, Israel.
5) Failed to release 600 Gulf War prisoners, they have disappeared without trace.
6) Broken UN resolutions for 11 years.
7) Offered cash payments for the dead bodies of US and UK servicemen patrolling the No Fly zone.
8) Sheltered terrorists of various groups.
9) Paid money to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers.
10) Attempted to construct a "super gun" in secret.
11) Had political opponents murdered, women raped and murdered, children of his enemies tortured, and even members of his own family killed.
Er, just what does he have to do to become an enemy in your eyes, nuke someone ? Oh yeah, thats why we're going to attack, to stop him doing that in the future....
~~Belldandy~~
What Bush seems to be doing is much like poking a sleeping lion in the testicles, which could anger this otherwise neutral lion.
By that I mean that if George Bush attacks Iraq, this could cause Saddam Hussein to use chemical or biological weapons, which he probably won't do unless he is under serious threat. Who saw that speech yesterday? If you did, did you hear a single valid point, as to why George Bush plans to take military action against Iraq unless Saddam resigns? It went a bit like this: He is "evil" and "dangerous", we want "freedom" for our "great and peaceful country".
Hitler influenced some Germans against the Jews in a similar way, blaming them for existing problems and calling them "evil", then saying that the German people would be safer without them. This was seriously wrong, and i think that Bush is seriously wrong. That speech yesterday was propaganda, to make the residents of the US see Saddam Hussein (and Iraq) as an enemy.
Lombardo
By that I mean that if George Bush attacks Iraq, this could cause Saddam Hussein to use chemical or biological weapons, which he probably won't do unless he is under serious threat. Who saw that speech yesterday? If you did, did you hear a single valid point, as to why George Bush plans to take military action against Iraq unless Saddam resigns? It went a bit like this: He is "evil" and "dangerous", we want "freedom" for our "great and peaceful country".
Hitler influenced some Germans against the Jews in a similar way, blaming them for existing problems and calling them "evil", then saying that the German people would be safer without them. This was seriously wrong, and i think that Bush is seriously wrong. That speech yesterday was propaganda, to make the residents of the US see Saddam Hussein (and Iraq) as an enemy.
Lombardo
Goatboy wrote:
> You cannot discard 350,000 people's opinions as a mob that needs a
> brain-scan.
> It's personal belief and conviction.
>
> I understand your views on this, but please try to refrain from
> sneering at those that wish to express another viewpoint to this whole
> pantomime.
>
> Cheers mate.
Er, sorry, should have amde myself more clear. "Yesterday" referred to Tuesday, not the SUnday of that march...anyways..... I was referring to Hans Blix claiming a victory in Vienna for getting Iraq to accept inspectors in all sites, apart from 8. Now I'm not great at maths, but all minus 8 does not equal all, does it ? Which is why it was no victory and why anyone who thinks Blix's little triumpth is a victory needs a brainscan. Protestors don't need a brainscan, they can say and think what they like because we live in a democracy, unlike the Iraqi people.....
~~Belldandy~~
> You cannot discard 350,000 people's opinions as a mob that needs a
> brain-scan.
> It's personal belief and conviction.
>
> I understand your views on this, but please try to refrain from
> sneering at those that wish to express another viewpoint to this whole
> pantomime.
>
> Cheers mate.
Er, sorry, should have amde myself more clear. "Yesterday" referred to Tuesday, not the SUnday of that march...anyways..... I was referring to Hans Blix claiming a victory in Vienna for getting Iraq to accept inspectors in all sites, apart from 8. Now I'm not great at maths, but all minus 8 does not equal all, does it ? Which is why it was no victory and why anyone who thinks Blix's little triumpth is a victory needs a brainscan. Protestors don't need a brainscan, they can say and think what they like because we live in a democracy, unlike the Iraqi people.....
~~Belldandy~~
I think bush has gone to far now!
If he goes ahead and attacks Iraq the effects it would have on his country and the rest of the world would be devestating!
Bush seems hellbent on war!
If he goes ahead and attacks Iraq the effects it would have on his country and the rest of the world would be devestating!
Bush seems hellbent on war!
I'm not worried about the war... The only thing I'm worried about is the weapons which he has which when breathed in melt your insides and stuff, you tellin me you wanna go out like that. You may aswell go out in a blaze of glory with a gun or somit.
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