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Ok, this is sort of on-topic here but not related to Rosalind's situation.
Porno.
It's a fact of life and has been around ever since we painted on cave-walls. I promise you that UG & OG got bored with drawing buffalo and scribbled a naughty pic of Mrs IG and UG & OG.
I don't understand the big deal with it myself. I was allowed to look at porno mags from the age of about 14, initially I thought "Cool!" but got bored of them after a while.
Why?
Illicit thrill - exactly what has upset Ros. It's not looking at naked people, it's the thought that you shouldn't be. It adds a dimension to it, spices it up if you like.
But why should that be an "illicit" thrill.
Can someone explain what exactly is wrong, in any context, about an adult watching/looking at pics of other consenting adults engaged in an ancient pastime?
It's not like I'm trying to watch execution videos, I'm indulging in a passive enjoyment of an act most of humanity pursues/thinks about with a fervour unmatched since Gold Rush Fever.
I like porno. I don't have to look at it every day, but if I want to then sure,I'll log on to a site and have a go.
*claps hands to face*
Oh my god, he's admitting to masturbation! Right, like I'm the only person on this planet to do that.
"But it's wrong/dirty" - why?
What is wrong with a little jolly when I feel like it? It's not like I have a tug on a bus or at the cinema.
It's a perfectly normal reaction - to be exposed to pornographic material is to stimulate a response.
That's the entire point of it.
You can keep your Channel 5 "Erotic Drama", if I want plot or acting then I'll go watch The Godfather.
There are times, and I'm sorry kids, when I just want to watch a couple of people making each other very, very happy.
Where's the guilt in that? Anyone?
But why is "hardcore" sex so frowned upon in today's society?
Why can I go to the Warnervillage Cineplex and watch a film about a serial killer that offs teenage girls, yet I cannot go to a similar place and watch a man and woman (or man & man/woman & woman if that's your thing) indulge in primal pleasure?
And if you follow that ancient argument about "Imitating what you see", I'd rather people went to porno movies and came out horny as hell instead of having just watched a movie where a guy has slaughtered 12 girls.
Especially with the recent horrors of murdered girls.
Why am I allowed to watch a fictional version of that for entertainment, yet I can't watch two adults murdering nobody/blowing no buildings up/kicking nobody in the head?
Porno is harmless. It promotes warm, sexy feelings. Explain why that is a bad thing?
I'm not going to delve into child-porn, just as a discussion about movies would not venture into snuff movies.
I'm talking about 2 (or more) adults, enjoying each other and everyone getting paid and going home for a nice meal.
But it envokes sniggers and gasps from people.
It's just sex.
I think if more people watched porno than Scream 20, we'd have a much more relaxed world.
With rubbish perms and moustaches, granted - but you cant have everything.
Porno.
It's a fact of life and has been around ever since we painted on cave-walls. I promise you that UG & OG got bored with drawing buffalo and scribbled a naughty pic of Mrs IG and UG & OG.
I don't understand the big deal with it myself. I was allowed to look at porno mags from the age of about 14, initially I thought "Cool!" but got bored of them after a while.
Why?
Illicit thrill - exactly what has upset Ros. It's not looking at naked people, it's the thought that you shouldn't be. It adds a dimension to it, spices it up if you like.
But why should that be an "illicit" thrill.
Can someone explain what exactly is wrong, in any context, about an adult watching/looking at pics of other consenting adults engaged in an ancient pastime?
It's not like I'm trying to watch execution videos, I'm indulging in a passive enjoyment of an act most of humanity pursues/thinks about with a fervour unmatched since Gold Rush Fever.
I like porno. I don't have to look at it every day, but if I want to then sure,I'll log on to a site and have a go.
*claps hands to face*
Oh my god, he's admitting to masturbation! Right, like I'm the only person on this planet to do that.
"But it's wrong/dirty" - why?
What is wrong with a little jolly when I feel like it? It's not like I have a tug on a bus or at the cinema.
It's a perfectly normal reaction - to be exposed to pornographic material is to stimulate a response.
That's the entire point of it.
You can keep your Channel 5 "Erotic Drama", if I want plot or acting then I'll go watch The Godfather.
There are times, and I'm sorry kids, when I just want to watch a couple of people making each other very, very happy.
Where's the guilt in that? Anyone?
But why is "hardcore" sex so frowned upon in today's society?
Why can I go to the Warnervillage Cineplex and watch a film about a serial killer that offs teenage girls, yet I cannot go to a similar place and watch a man and woman (or man & man/woman & woman if that's your thing) indulge in primal pleasure?
And if you follow that ancient argument about "Imitating what you see", I'd rather people went to porno movies and came out horny as hell instead of having just watched a movie where a guy has slaughtered 12 girls.
Especially with the recent horrors of murdered girls.
Why am I allowed to watch a fictional version of that for entertainment, yet I can't watch two adults murdering nobody/blowing no buildings up/kicking nobody in the head?
Porno is harmless. It promotes warm, sexy feelings. Explain why that is a bad thing?
I'm not going to delve into child-porn, just as a discussion about movies would not venture into snuff movies.
I'm talking about 2 (or more) adults, enjoying each other and everyone getting paid and going home for a nice meal.
But it envokes sniggers and gasps from people.
It's just sex.
I think if more people watched porno than Scream 20, we'd have a much more relaxed world.
With rubbish perms and moustaches, granted - but you cant have everything.
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Yes.
Shame you refuse to show your face, otherwise we could discuss further.
Heh
Shame you refuse to show your face, otherwise we could discuss further.
Heh
Goatboy wrote:
>
> Now let's all hug and listen to severely monged-out music
******
And make home porno.
>
> Now let's all hug and listen to severely monged-out music
******
And make home porno.
Belldandy wrote:
Legalise it and you'll see it be used by
> middle/higher income men whilst those employed in it are most likely
> to be lower/lower middle class women.
--
Er, hate to tell you but it's like that now.
But without any kind of control, legislation or protection for those forced into the prostitution industry, currently without regulations or regular governmental checks into brothels.
Amsterdamn operates a strict policy of checking and maintaining records on all prostitutes that operate in legal brothels.
Sure there is still underground, inhabited by runaways/immigrants etc, but with the legalisation it at least affords some control over it.
How can that be a bad thing?
Legalise it and you'll see it be used by
> middle/higher income men whilst those employed in it are most likely
> to be lower/lower middle class women.
--
Er, hate to tell you but it's like that now.
But without any kind of control, legislation or protection for those forced into the prostitution industry, currently without regulations or regular governmental checks into brothels.
Amsterdamn operates a strict policy of checking and maintaining records on all prostitutes that operate in legal brothels.
Sure there is still underground, inhabited by runaways/immigrants etc, but with the legalisation it at least affords some control over it.
How can that be a bad thing?
MoJoJoJo wrote:
> By the way, I'm planning on making some softcore and/or hardcore
> pornos within the next few years. Hell, I'll even star in 'em myself,
> for... um... "research" purposes
>
> Being a director rules
you may have difficulty casting for that. and a 90 minute presentation of you batting the sausage is hardly going to make great viewing...
> By the way, I'm planning on making some softcore and/or hardcore
> pornos within the next few years. Hell, I'll even star in 'em myself,
> for... um... "research" purposes
>
> Being a director rules
you may have difficulty casting for that. and a 90 minute presentation of you batting the sausage is hardly going to make great viewing...
*bangs head on desk*
Belldandy, mate.
I enjoy reading your posts, they're intelligent and well written. But where, for me, it falls apart is your refusal to allow anyone else their own opinion and insist on saying over and over "No, you are wrong. I am right and I shall spell out why"
We all have our own opinions, some are valid and some aren't.
But there comes a time in life when you have to put the soapbox away, get chinese-eyed and watch two people getting naked.
I think we can *all* agree on that.
You have Dubya & Cheney, I have Cheech & Chong - and never the twain shall meet.
Now let's all hug and listen to severely monged-out music
Belldandy, mate.
I enjoy reading your posts, they're intelligent and well written. But where, for me, it falls apart is your refusal to allow anyone else their own opinion and insist on saying over and over "No, you are wrong. I am right and I shall spell out why"
We all have our own opinions, some are valid and some aren't.
But there comes a time in life when you have to put the soapbox away, get chinese-eyed and watch two people getting naked.
I think we can *all* agree on that.
You have Dubya & Cheney, I have Cheech & Chong - and never the twain shall meet.
Now let's all hug and listen to severely monged-out music
WòókieeMøn§†€® wrote:
> How do you work that one out, when it's had no effect on street crime
> in Australia, Holland and elsewhere?
Quite simple, take a look at our police force and the record of crime in this country......
~~Belldandy~~
> How do you work that one out, when it's had no effect on street crime
> in Australia, Holland and elsewhere?
Quite simple, take a look at our police force and the record of crime in this country......
~~Belldandy~~
Get a van and a mate called Ugly.
In America it's accepted that a majority of users of lower class (our class C) drugs are white middle/higher class whereas dealers and users of higher class drugs were latin/African American. It's like saying that you're legalising drugs because the users of that drug make up some of your voters.
Same for prostitution. Legalise it and you'll see it be used by middle/higher income men whilst those employed in it are most likely to be lower/lower middle class women. Legalising it is like saying it's because it's providing service to that group of people. Plus, it'd still be about profit so there'd be even furhter exploitation of immigrants via this new legal industry.
The same kind of arguments can be made against furhter legalising pornography.
~~Belldandy~~
Same for prostitution. Legalise it and you'll see it be used by middle/higher income men whilst those employed in it are most likely to be lower/lower middle class women. Legalising it is like saying it's because it's providing service to that group of people. Plus, it'd still be about profit so there'd be even furhter exploitation of immigrants via this new legal industry.
The same kind of arguments can be made against furhter legalising pornography.
~~Belldandy~~
Woo porn!
By the way, I'm planning on making some softcore and/or hardcore pornos within the next few years. Hell, I'll even star in 'em myself, for... um... "research" purposes
Being a director rules
Being a director rules
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